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As with any amps.. And I've done my own testing. For some reason if you have more then one amp on a shared circuit the clip lights comes on sooner then when they are on their own cuircut. Like 8 or more dbs headroom loss. Now, if you have all of them on their own cuircut. Especially 20 amp cuircut. You'll be amazed what your amp will do. I have all of my amps on their own. Including my avr and all 4 S2's. Try it.. Trust me.

I just recently put my amps on their own circuit and was shocked at what I was hearing! It didn't cross my mind that there would have been an audible difference, but there was. I didn't even need to measure to tell there was a difference but I did anyway. Also, my inuke amps were going into protection mode with the super low content such as the cop car smash in TIH and the opening scene in EOT. Now I get every bid of those scenes without any issues. Using a power filter is also a bad idea with amps as they really don't let a lot of juice get to your amp, but they will protect your breaker from tripping.
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Hmmm interesting. This could explain why I was getting 6-7 db's more from the CV 5000 and inuke 6000 vs. the inuke 3000 when powering the 215's. I know I had the CV on it's own circuit because I always do, but I can't remember how I had the 6000 setup. I'll have to do some more experimenting.

I bet that is why the CV5000 was louder.

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I just recently put my amps on their own circuit and was shocked at what I was hearing! It didn't cross my mind that there would have been an audible difference, but there was. I didn't even need to measure to tell there was a difference but I did anyway. Also, my inuke amps were going into protection mode with the super low content such as the cop car smash in TIH and the opening scene in EOT. Now I get every bid of those scenes without any issues. Using a power filter is also a bad idea with amps as they really don't let a lot of juice get to your amp, but they will protect your breaker from tripping.
See guys! Pain got his amps also on their own also. Another example as to why others should do it too to get the full potential of our systems. Nice Pain..
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I'm one thats had excellent results with any behringer product. Never had a failure of any kind on anything. I've had a few XLS's and the 2500's are no better built than the 6000's. They both work fine, just get the one you can get the better deal on I guess. Behringer just likes to get a bad rap from the pro world and I think even thats generally a crock to what they have on the market now vs when they got their "bad" name.

I've had my 215's on a clone, Crest 7.5 and my D-Sonic, IMO the D-Sonic is more than enough in my room for anything i could ever stand to listen to.
Ah! I remember asking you a question back then if there was any difference between a quality amp vs a low end amp like a Behringer. And remember you saying that you can't tell one difference.. Haha! Well then that explains it then. It probably wouldn't to you since you ran them on dedicated circuit each time. Ha! Another example why we should run amps on their own.
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Haha that's awesome Nate, your theater room has more high amperage circuits then more houses.....lol

We run double circuits on every breaker! We only have a 150 service and the double 20A breakers are 150$ each and the double 30A was 220$ LOL We looked into getting a 250 amp service but it wasn't worth the cost.

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When the transients get clipped, it generally sounds fine...not what you think of from an overloaded amp or speaker.

Whether we're talking about 212s or 215s, it will probably sound fine.

Just not quite as good as it could sound if it could reproduce those transients without clipping.

Incidentally, aside from big amps and high efficiency speakers, reducing ambient noise is another effective way to increase dynamic range. Adding sound treatment and using speakers with horns help with this.

Better yet, all of the above.
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I ran 3 215's on my Pioneer SC-09tx for 2 months without any problems. As it was 4 ohm capable.I think the reason for me for added amps was to run the LF range hotter through dsp in the Inuke. Other then that, the 215's run perfectly fine on a avr.
Thanks guys... that's all i need to hear... i am sort of the 'receiver' type of guy... and this means the 215 RMs might be in the horizon when i am thinking of upgrading...

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I know most of us have seen how sensitive jayterz are and can run up to reference with just 1 watt of power (see @Archaea youtube)...but I was wondering what is the minimum power needed to run either the 212HT or 228HT to hear their full range of capability at any reasonable volume all the way up to reference? This stems from our past convos about midbass...If we are running with an avr, there is plenty of power for the highs, but is there really enough for the midbass? After all, lower the frequency, logically more power is needed. Has anyone measured midbass performance between say an average 50-100w from an avr to several hundred...200w to 1000w per channel from an amp? Of course, running speakers as Large to test. And I'm not making this about amp vs avr, just if extra power is what that's required to push midbass performance to what it 'should' be for the 212HT/228HT? Or are the midbass frequencies covered by the amount of power our avr's providing?
I brought this issue up once and Archaee then went and demoed the 212s with just 1 watt of power.. seems like tons of mid bass as well... he basically set his crown to limit the amp power to 1 watt... it almost went to reference...
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