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Wow! I feel so old since 2015 is just around the corner.. Lol.. what a you say carp? You feelin it too?
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Merry Christmas my friends!

I just wanted to let any of you guys thinking about getting an acoustic transparent screen to put your JayTerZ behind (you should be)...strongly consider the Elite AcousticPro1080P2 screens. It's almost $1200 cheaper than the next 'normal' goto recommendations on avs and performs very well. After comparing it to a sample of seymour, I can't find any justification to spend $1000-1500 more...that money can be better used in other ht items.

After deciding it was relatively inexpensive to test out, I got a 176" 2.35 fixed sableframe a few days ago via Amazon...and I have to honestly say it looks fantastic. Even came with a nice black backing to help reduce possible reflections from back wall. Putting it together is pretty easy and just takes a couple of hours if you take your time following the directions exactly. It stretched out perfectly without any waves/wrinkles.

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Fabric detail, back side...even cut at an angle to reduce any chance of moire


Clips installed...following install pattern important, similar to torqueing bolts


Black acoustic backing fabric with additional vertical strut like bracing for support and final streching of fabric. Mine has two braces due to the size of the screen. The clips used are each velcro backed, so the black backing cleverly and simply catches on all the clips holding the AT fabric.


Cost less than $500 shipped...saving over a $1200...priceless.
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Yeah I love the look of the new wooden waveguides in the 2015 models!!


Gonna find out just how much I love them soon. I ordered a LR 2015 212HT. I am going to keep my 228 center for now due to size constraints
and move my LR 228s to rear speakers. I'll get a custom center from Jeff later if I feel it is necessary. I know one or two other JTR owners have done the
same thing, with good results.


Jeff should print some JTR Speakers T Shirts for his fan club!
I know a lot of people say the 228's wouldn't have enough coverage to use as surrounds but I've experienced them as surrounds and it was awesome! How big is your room, are the surrounds going to be real close to the seats?
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I know a lot of people say the 228's wouldn't have enough coverage to use as surrounds but I've experienced them as surrounds and it was awesome! How big is your room, are the surrounds going to be real close to the seats?
The rear 228s will be 7 or 8 feet away from MLP. Can't wait to hear a five speaker JTR setup.
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Wow! I feel so old since 2015 is just around the corner.. Lol.. what a you say carp? You feelin it too?

I've got a bit of peter pan syndrome or something... still feel young for some reason.
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Merry Christmas my friends!

I just wanted to let any of you guys thinking about getting an acoustic transparent screen to put your JayTerZ behind (you should be)...strongly consider the Elite AcousticPro1080P2 screens. It's almost $1200 cheaper than the next 'normal' goto recommendations on avs and performs very well. After comparing it to a sample of seymour, I can't find any justification to spend $1000-1500 more...that money can be better used in other ht items.

After deciding it was relatively inexpensive to test out, I got a 176" 2.35 fixed sableframe a few days ago via Amazon...and I have to honestly say it looks fantastic. Even came with a nice black backing to help reduce possible reflections from back wall. Putting it together is pretty easy and just takes a couple of hours if you take your time following the directions exactly. It stretched out perfectly without any waves/wrinkles.

Packaging


Clips/etc


Rods to help stretch fabric evenly by sitting in a channel running entire length of framework.


Fabric detail, back side...even cut at an angle to reduce any chance of moire


Clips installed...following install pattern important, similar to torqueing bolts


Black acoustic backing fabric with additional vertical strut like bracing for support and final streching of fabric. Mine has two braces due to the size of the screen. The clips used are each velcro backed, so the black backing cleverly and simply catches on all the clips holding the AT fabric.


Cost less than $500 shipped...saving over a $1200...priceless.


Woah, woah, woah!!

I'm very interested in this since I'm about to pull the trigger on a Falcon screen. Can you see the weave at ALL from the seats? How far away can you see it? MOAR PICS!!! How is the brighness? as bright as the XD material? Wow, you went with a huge screen!

Where did you get the screen material looks like Amazon only has one size.
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Where did you end up crossing yours? I have two S2s. I'll see how it all measures out.
3RM's and 2 S2's....that sounds very nice indeed. Would really like to hear your impressions of that along with some pics.


You must have a nice sized room because the RM's are big along with 2 S2's...that's lots of real estate. What are your room dimensions?

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Unless you plan on standing the RM's vertically. That would look really sweet across the front if they were all vertical.

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I know a lot of people say the 228's wouldn't have enough coverage to use as surrounds but I've experienced them as surrounds and it was awesome! How big is your room, are the surrounds going to be real close to the seats?
A little off the subject, but there is a guy that comes to Andrews GTG's by the name of Bill (RX-8), some of you have met him. He has Seaton Cat 12's all the way around, I believe 7 in all. I have to bet that it sounds amazing. I believe I had read that @Jim Wilson heard it?
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Woah, woah, woah!!

I'm very interested in this since I'm about to pull the trigger on a Falcon screen. Can you see the weave at ALL from the seats? How far away can you see it? MOAR PICS!!! How is the brighness? as bright as the XD material? Wow, you went with a huge screen!

Where did you get the screen material looks like Amazon only has one size.
I found on Amazon where you bought it. I went ahead and bought a 158" diagonal size 2:35:1 which is exactly the size of my current screen. I figure it's worth a shot and if I don't like it I'll send it back and go back to the original plan of getting the Falcon screen. Does the frame look like you could fit masking panels in? I'd love to be able to use mine.
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I found on Amazon where you bought it. I went ahead and bought a 158" diagonal size 2:35:1 which is exactly the size of my current screen. I figure it's worth a shot and if I don't like it I'll send it back and go back to the original plan of getting the Falcon screen. Does the frame look like you could fit masking panels in? I'd love to be able to use mine.
Merry Christmas to you man!!!!

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There is a guy that comes to Andrews GTG's by the name of Bill (RX-8) and he has Seaton Cat 12's all the way around, I believe 7 in all. I have to bet that it sounds amazing. I believe I had read that @Jim Wilson heard it?
Whoa!! Yeah I remember him, holy crap didn't know he had those all around!! I'd love to see pics of that. @rx-8
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Merry Christmas to you man!!!!
Thanks!! Merry Christmas to you too, tis the season for upgrades!!

I'm supposed to get it Monday, same day I might get my nearfield sub - 2 possibly huge upgrades for crazy cheap!!
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Thanks!! Merry Christmas to you too, tis the season for upgrades!!

I'm supposed to get it Monday, same day I might get my nearfield sub - 2 possibly huge upgrades for crazy cheap!!
What near field sub did you buy?

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A little off the subject, but there is a guy that comes to Andrews GTG's by the name of Bill (RX-8), some of you have met him. He has Seaton Cat 12's all the way around, I believe 7 in all. I have to bet that it sounds amazing. I believe I had read that @Jim Wilson heard it?
Now THAT is just crazy baddass!! Would love to experience that. Imagine 7 215RT's.
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That will definitely get things shaking carp.. Nice!
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Hey Sheldon...how much space is there between the 4 18's you have in each front corner and your 215RT's? Was wondering if subwoofers need a certain amount of space to perform optimally. I only have about 20" from the back of my 215's to the front corner.

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Woah, woah, woah!!

I'm very interested in this since I'm about to pull the trigger on a Falcon screen. Can you see the weave at ALL from the seats? How far away can you see it? MOAR PICS!!! How is the brighness? as bright as the XD material? Wow, you went with a huge screen!

Where did you get the screen material looks like Amazon only has one size.
No man, you cannot see the weave from your seat at all.

Save your money! Skip Falcon, Seymour, etc. The difference is so little, you would never know what you're watching unless I told you the brand. Even a 15% increase in claimed brightness is realistically very minor...the number 15 sounds bigger than the practical application...if anything, for me black levels are more important, and black backing is helping with contrast on the Elite 1080P2...this is a shot taken within one foot comparing the XD with the P2...if I was going to nit pick, the black color seems to 'suffer' as a result on the XD since it's a little brighter...black gets creeps into dark gray:


Practically speaking, here's what it looks from my seat 16' away...can you see the xd sample and is the difference worth over triple the price:


Ignore the image not filling the screen...I still have to move the pj back a bit.

And another...hint...xd sample is still in the same spot close to the tripod:


You cannot see the weave until you're within 3-4 feet and I have to try to focus-squint to see it. And that's only with a solid bright color and you're standing within a few feet watching a blue sky...which is not practical day to day. Normal viewing is what really counts, so from 8' or more feet...you're just immersed in the image. The XD has a tighter weave, but the benefit is minor to me...especially in normal dark ht environments.

As far as different sizes, click on this link and theres a drop down to select various sizing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B2G...=AC_SX200_QL40

I went with the biggest size possible in my room because it's more immersive. It's awesome. Your eyes never take in an entire image even with smaller screens down to tvs...you're always focused on one subject or object at a time on spanning a few square inches or feet...and we see with a peripheral view anyway, so this feels even more realistic with more to fill my peripheral sides.

Let me know if you want any specific pics.
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Thanks!! Merry Christmas to you too, tis the season for upgrades!!

I'm supposed to get it Monday, same day I might get my nearfield sub - 2 possibly huge upgrades for crazy cheap!!
Merry Christmas Carp. Hope you and your family are having a great day.

Anyway, you are going to hide your 215's?? I thought you liked looking at them? I know I love looking at mine, I would hate to put them behind an AT screen., but that may be next down the line for me.

I have been tossing up going to an AT screen for along time, but I have not be able to do one in my room anyway. I have a guy coming to do my hardwood floors and when he is here I am going to talk with him about possible ripping down my sheetrock and putting in clips and doing double drywall and removing the last two windows in my theater. I have got to get those windows out first. I still cannot believe that I left those 2 windows in, I am still kicking myself over that one. Be awhile before any of this happens, maybe around the end of summer. I have to be honest that I am pretty happy with my fixed screen as I have mounted higher and my 228 is placed pretty well under the screen. I have been very happy with my front stage, to add I also love my Carada screen, it seems to pair well with my Panny 8000. I don't have much to compare it to, but looks very nice.
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That will definitely get things shaking carp.. Nice!

Ahh, I get your comment now about feeling old. Do you have thoughts of getting the new 215's or trading out the CD (if trading it out is possible, I can't picture how that would be done without cutting wood)?
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Hey Sheldon...how much space is there between the 4 18's you have in each front corner and your 215RT's? Was wondering if subwoofers need a certain amount of space to perform optimally. I only have about 20" from the back of my 215's to the front corner.
My 215's are toed in pretty sharply since I sit pretty close to them. At the corners of the 215's they are 2 inches from the drivers, I haven't had any problems.
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No man, you cannot see the weave from your seat at all.

Save your money! Skip Falcon, Seymour, etc. The difference is so little, you would never know what you're watching unless I told you the brand. Even a 15% increase in claimed brightness is realistically very minor...the number 15 sounds bigger than the practical application...if anything, for me black levels are more important, and black backing is helping with contrast on the Elite 1080P2...this is a shot taken within one foot comparing the XD with the P2...if I was going to nit pick, the black color seems to 'suffer' as a result on the XD since it's a little brighter...black gets creeps into dark gray:


Practically speaking, here's what it looks from my seat 16' away...can you see the xd sample and is the difference worth over triple the price:


Ignore the image not filling the screen...I still have to move the pj back a bit.

And another...hint...xd sample is still in the same spot close to the tripod:


You cannot see the weave until you're within 3-4 feet and I have to try to focus-squint to see it. And that's only with a solid bright color and you're standing within a few feet watching a blue sky...which is not practical day to day. Normal viewing is what really counts, so from 8' or more feet...you're just immersed in the image. The XD has a tighter weave, but the benefit is minor to me...especially in normal dark ht environments.

As far as different sizes, click on this link and theres a drop down to select various sizing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00B2G...=AC_SX200_QL40

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Let me know if you want any specific pics.
Great, great post Asim. Love the pictures. I can't tell where the XD material is! I'll be really close now, so not seeing the weave at all is important. I can see the XD weave at about 9 feet away when mrsmithers first got his screen.

My eyes are 11 feet from the screen right now, so I'll be about 9' 4" from the AT screen.
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Asim, can you take pics with the lights on full close up of the side/corner of the screen and frame? I'm wondering if my masking panels will fit in there. The ledge doesn't have to be very big my panels are about 1/3rd of an inch thick.
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