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rhed the graph looks good but at the very least you should have it in 10dB increments but preferably 5dB not 20dB and I would suggest using 1/12th smoothing too.
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You've increased it up to 50dB increments now...lol
Time to try again!
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You've increased it up to 50dB increments now...lol
Time to try again!
Where do I change the settings.. thanks jb..
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Where do I change the settings.. thanks jb..
Sorry rhed, I told you to click on the "-" but you should be clicking on the "+", which will zoom in on the Y axis of your graph.
I would also set your limits at 45-100dB.
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Ok thanks.. I think I got it.. Sheeze looks like I have to go back to the drawing board again.. lol.. ahh. But it doesn't sound like that graph.. really!.. haha..

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You also have to change it from linear to logarithm.

You should read the ReW guide here on avs
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Rhed, stick with the 50dB increments, it looks better

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Rhed, stick with the 50dB increments, it looks better
Lol.. Yea. Learn something every day. Now I'm curious to where it's at now since I've been just using the EQ in the Inuke to adjust to my liking. This was the last one I measured a few months ago. I have to get my mic back from my brother. I have 4 more 2'x4'x4" sound panels that I didn't finish built yet. I'm thinking placing them on reflection points on the ceiling.
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I really want to try Dirac but not being able get it the 2 week trial version to work with my pc makes me nervous about getting the minidsp that goes in between the PC and AVR.

Then there is the Minidsp Dirac that goes in between the AVR and amps but it only has one sub out and I assume I would have to get amps for my 4 surrounds and I don't want to have to do that.

Then there is the XMC-1 but I'd like to get Atmos at some point...

So I'm going to try to wait patiently for a future avr (possibly combined with a future minidsp) that has both Dirac and Atmos.
If you can get the trial working, that's a great way to go before buying something.
If you contact Dirac support, I bet they can help (and hopefully reset the 2 weeks).
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Except for getting the JTR speakers, the Dirac room correction is easily the biggest improvement in sound I have experienced in this hobby. I know I stated this before with the two channel version, but now that I have full Dirac correction on the XMC-1 I can fully appreciate the difference for Mch music and movies.

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I agree. The only other thing I'd put in that league is when I started using good subs.
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Lol.. Yea. Learn something every day. Now I'm curious to where it's at now since I've been just using the EQ in the Inuke to adjust to my liking. This was the last one I measured a few months ago. I have to get my mic back from my brother. I have 4 more 2'x4'x4" sound panels that I didn't finish built yet. I'm thinking placing them on reflection points on the ceiling.
I was kind of laughing too at myself because when I first looked at your graphs I didn't notice the scale. I don't know if you have looked much at the REW thread? It is quite long but also very good. A lot of good knowledge and graph interpretation over there. At the risk of over simplifying I would focus on the FR (especially XO area), Impulse response and bass decay first. The more you can do with passive treatments the better, then go for DSP after that. There are some interesting other approaches with active cancellation like a double bass array. Doing it on your own could be a little involved but Dirac has also developed this approach with their new Dirac Unison available in auto environment only right now, but I am sure will develop into HT next. Interesting stuff, the computing power coupled with intelligent speaker placement for this type of design may lead us to outdoor bass indoors!

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I agree. The only other thing I'd put in that league is when I started using good subs.
I know you and I have had similar good experience with Dirac. I forget how you are accessing? Are you using the XMC-1 or PC version?

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I know you and I have had similar good experience with Dirac. I forget how you are accessing? Are you using the XMC-1 or PC version?
I'm using the PC full version with JRiver. It comes with a license for 2 rooms, and I'm using it in my theater and my bedroom with great results in both cases.

If someone came out with a reasonably priced processor with Dirac, HDMI 2, and Atmos, I'd be very tempted.
Or maybe JRiver and Dirac will support Atmos first.
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I was thinking this was so completely off topic that it fits perfectly in the JTR thread...that's what I think although I know some don't like the periodic off topics. Consider the JTR a cross-country trip...and every once in a while you have to get off on an exit to find some food and gas.

I can't help with the Mac part of it but for the PC you need a USB cable from the computer to the USB mic. You will also need an HDMI cable (and connector) to output the sound from the computer to the receiver/preamp. That's what I use to make sure I get a digital signal from my computer to the receiver/preamp.
i have an hdmi cable but my computer has no hdmi output, it just has usb on the back.

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Does it have that mini hdmi connection? Which Mac are you using? I think most use the PC version here.
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i have an hdmi cable but my computer has no hdmi output, it just has usb on the back.

Without HDMI on your computer, you will need a sound card. To be honest with you, I would just go get a $200 throw away laptop that has hdmi on it. Sooooo much better using hdmi instead of a sound card. my $.02

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I'm using a mac a1418 (21.5 inch non retina) it has 4 usb ports and 2 thunderbolt ports (says it for connecting external displays and high performance devices) just got the mac yesterday and its my first one so i don't know much about it yet

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Without HDMI on your computer, you will need a sound card. To be honest with you, I would just go get a $200 throw away laptop that has hdmi on it. Sooooo much better using hdmi instead of a sound card. my $.02
damn that sucks i just bought this thing

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I'm using a mac a1418 (21.5 inch non retina) it has 4 usb ports and 2 thunderbolt ports (says it for connecting external displays and high performance devices) just got the mac yesterday and its my first one so i don't know much about it yet
Two options:

1. http://store.apple.com/us/product/HF...dmi-adapter-4k

2. http://store.apple.com/sg/product/MB...to-dvi-adapter
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http://www.amazon.com/Gefen-HDMI-Cab.../dp/B0002CZHN6
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damn that sucks i just bought this thing
Just get a thunder bolt to hdmi connector.

Edit: Dgage already posted about it

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ok so i have the thunderbolt to hdmi connector. is there anything else i need?

i see on the web page i can download several versions. does the newest version support mac? if not it seems like there is a mac version but its not the latest version.. idk this is confusing lol

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where do i even download REW? every time i click what i think is a download link it just brings me to info about beta changes and stuff i don't even understand

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Right under the Windows download is the OS X download for beta 24. You'll need to register with Home Theater Shack if you haven't already.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...ml#post1020106
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Right under the Windows download is the OS X download for beta 24. You'll need to register with Home Theater Shack if you haven't already.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...ml#post1020106

okay got it downloaded!

now what....? lol

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My man, how are you ever going to be able to use the REW if you do not try or don't read the info that is available. Just try a little bit harder. You will eventually get it.

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i been reading lol

gotta take a break, this stuff is a lil over my head. ill get it eventually

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Catching up here and see your pics and I was looking at that box for the S8's and reminds me of the January or April GTG when we did a little comparison of surround speakers. At the end of the night which I believe was around 1 am we were all packing up and leaving and I was carrying the same box with a pair of S8's inside the box and I dropped it out Rilla's garage door. It was about a 6 foot drop. The box landed flat on it's side on the concrete garage floor. I just about croaked. I got them home and inspected everything and all was good. Not a scratch and they sound perfect. Just shows how tough these speakers are and not to mention the simplest of packaging does what it is meant to do, PROTECT them. These speakers are tough as nails!!
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Catching up here and seen your pics and I was looking at that the box for the S8's and reminds me of the January or April GTG when we did a little comparison of surround speakers.I brought my brand new S8's as I had not even opened them yet as they were waiting for my theater to be complete. At the end of the night which I believe was around 1 am and we were all tired, we were all packing up and getting ready to leave and I was carrying the same box in the pic with a pair of S8's inside the box and I dropped it out Rilla's garage door. It was about a 6 foot drop. The box landed flat on it's side on the concrete garage floor. I just about croaked. I got them home and inspected everything and all was good. Not a scratch and they sound perfect. Just shows how tough these speakers are and not to mention the simplest of packaging does what it is meant to do, PROTECT them. These speakers are tough as nails!!
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Catching up here and seen your pics and I was looking at that the box for the S8's and reminds me of the January or April GTG when we did a little comparison of surround speakers.I brought my brand new S8's as I had not even opened them yet as they were waiting for my theater to be complete. At the end of the night which I believe was around 1 am and we were all tired, we were all packing up and getting ready to leave and I was carrying the same box in the pic with a pair of S8's inside the box and I dropped it out Rilla's garage door. It was about a 6 foot drop. The box landed flat on it's side on the concrete garage floor. I just about croaked. I got them home and inspected everything and all was good. Not a scratch and they sound perfect. Just shows how tough these speakers are and not to mention the simplest of packaging does what it is meant to do, PROTECT them. These speakers are tough as nails!!
That's why I included the open box picture to show how superb these were packed.

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