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Woah - that's what is so intriguing about Dirac to me. People should have kept their old AVR and bought one of the minidsp with Dirac units....
The XMC-1 can be upgraded to full Dirac.
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The XMC-1 can be upgraded to full Dirac.
no it cant...well not yet anyhow..

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no it cant...well not yet anyhow..
OK. My info is wrong then.
This is what I read on our local HTforum.nl.
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no it cant...well not yet anyhow..
I think the point is it will be. I agree emotivas implementation was flawed, and if I didn't have DSP I would not have liked it. But if you haven't heard it with a nice house curve, I would try to. To me it's a game changer.
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Understand that now but by doing that Dirac has now opened themselves up to poor feedback for those that don't spend the additional $99. So their money grab might result in them overall not making as much money due to "Dirac sucks" comments over a measly $99 each. Hope it works out well for them but this could hurt them more in the long run.
Maybe so. That would be a shame, because the full version is awesome.
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...slightly better results than what is very easy to achieve with the current Audyssey XT32 in the AV7702.
Once you get it tweaked, it's much better, not slightly better. I'd like to see more people give the free demo a try.
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Once you get it tweaked, it's much better, not slightly better. I'd like to see more people give the free demo a try.
I believe you.
But there are very few of you out there giving evidence based testimony. I am following the Dirac Threads with mild interest but I'm not interested in spending days of tweaking on PC based technology that ultimately I would not use. I want a solution integrated into my SSP that has been tested and vetted. Not an untested program with lot's of open issues. My system sounds good now (with and without Audyssey) so for me it is a solution looking for a problem.
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I believe you.
But there are very few of you out there giving evidence based testimony. I am following the Dirac Threads with mild interest but I'm not interested in spending days of tweaking on PC based technology that ultimately I would not use. I want a solution integrated into my SSP that has been tested and vetted. Not an untested program with lot's of open issues. My system sounds good now (with and without Audyssey) so for me it is a solution looking for a problem.
Fair enough!
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I believe you.
But there are very few of you out there giving evidence based testimony. I am following the Dirac Threads with mild interest but I'm not interested in spending days of tweaking on PC based technology that ultimately I would not use. I want a solution integrated into my SSP that has been tested and vetted. Not an untested program with lot's of open issues. My system sounds good now (with and without Audyssey) so for me it is a solution looking for a problem.
Get on it. Integrated solution for basically everything: http://www.trinnov.com/products/high...ntroduction-4/
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Get on it. Integrated solution for basically everything: http://www.trinnov.com/products/high...ntroduction-4/
Yeah well that is definitely the platinum diamond encrusted solution looking for a problem ...

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Yeah well that is definitely the platinum diamond encrusted solution looking for a problem ...
RMK and I are looking for 33 channels...looks like the 32 channels will be a limitation.
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Yeah well that is definitely the platinum diamond encrusted solution looking for a problem ...
Well, the unit can be had for much cheaper than one would expect, and its scale-ability is undeniable...not to mention you get one of the best, and most seamless room correction software packages out there with it Would likely be a unit like the a1hd where you could simply send it in for upgrades for years. I yearn for the ability to try all that the altitude has to offer, but not at this point

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RMK and I are looking for 33 channels...looks like the 32 channels will be a limitation.
Good, they make a 64 channel version too
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Well, the unit can be had for much cheaper than one would expect, and its scale-ability is undeniable...not to mention you get one of the best, and most seamless room correction software packages out there with it Would likely be a unit like the a1hd where you could simply send it in for upgrades for years. I yearn for the ability to try all that the altitude has to offer, but not at this point
Cheaper than $35K? How's that possible? They would be down to Jeff Permanian margins.

If I can get me one at a 90% discount, I'm in ...
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Get on it. Integrated solution for basically everything: http://www.trinnov.com/products/high...ntroduction-4/
Wow, what does something like that go for? 10K+?
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I'm going to my local FYE store today to burn up a gift card and like some suggestions on CDs to purchase. I'm in the process of listening to new music and music styles. the last CDs i purchased were steve aoki, RAM draft punk and skrillex. i liked all those quite a bit and they really sounded amazing on the 228s and subs as well. I guess I'm looking for music that has everything from deep bass to powerful highs. i want a cd that will test my whole system to see how well it perfumes in all categories. I'm open to any suggestions and love listening to new music.

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Yeah well that is definitely the platinum diamond encrusted solution looking for a problem ...
And it is still an HTPC running an Intel I7 processer.
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I'm going to my local FYE store today to burn up a gift card and like some suggestions on CDs to purchase. I'm in the process of listening to new music and music styles. the last CDs i purchased were steve aoki, RAM draft punk and skrillex. i liked all those quite a bit and they really sounded amazing on the 228s and subs as well. I guess I'm looking for music that has everything from deep bass to powerful highs. i want a cd that will test my whole system to see how well it perfumes in all categories. I'm open to any suggestions and love listening to new music.
Well, in the electronic area, there aren't too many full length albums I would suggest, but a lot of singles for sure. If your FYE has a Bella Sonus CD I highly suggest it, but am almost willing to bet they won't have anything. I had to source mine from Japan after it was suggested to me. Another great one is the new Pink Floyd album if you get down with classic rock type stuff. Really great soundstage and immersive to say the least.

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And it is still an HTPC running an Intel I7 processer.
Boy you don't even stop with that HTPC talk do ya?
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Well, in the electronic area, there aren't too many full length albums I would suggest, but a lot of singles for sure. If your FYE has a Bella Sonus CD I highly suggest it, but am almost willing to bet they won't have anything. I had to source mine from Japan after it was suggested to me. Another great one is the new Pink Floyd album if you get down with classic rock type stuff. Really great soundstage and immersive to say the least.



Boy you don't even stop with that HTPC talk do ya?
im not looking in the electric area only just saying its a new genre iv started to explore and have positive experiences with. i absolutely love pink floyed and will def grab the new album. i pretty much like all genres of music and am willing to give anything a try. i like all types of rock, electric/dubstep, rap reggae, i think id like to explore some orchestra also. just basically looking to explore a little bit of everything.

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im not looking in the electric area only just saying its a new genre iv started to explore and have positive experiences with. i absolutely love pink floyed and will def grab the new album. i pretty much like all genres of music and am willing to give anything a try. i like all types of rock, electric/dubstep, rap reggae, i think id like to explore some orchestra also. just basically looking to explore a little bit of everything.
This was the bella sonus I referenced: http://www.amazon.com/Enamoured-Bell.../dp/B00004TKP0

It's not electronic, but more like super chill Weather Channel type music. Great if you are in the mood for it and they have some good fundamentals down to 15-16hz or so that are pretty potent.
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This was the bella sonus I referenced: http://www.amazon.com/Enamoured-Bell.../dp/B00004TKP0

It's not electronic, but more like super chill Weather Channel type music. Great if you are in the mood for it and they have some good fundamentals down to 15-16hz or so that are pretty potent.
nice! okay. sounds interesting. ill defiantly check it out! thank! i also looked at the reviews and there very good. ill be ordering tomorrow

idk what it is lately but iv been just addicted to exploring new music. surly it couldn't have anything to do with these bad ass new 228s

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you got me excited about the new pink floyed to! I'm really glad to here it has a very immersive sound stage as i like multi channel listening a lot. love that feeling of being right in the center of all the music. ill probably grab this one tomorrow

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nice! okay. sounds interesting. ill defiantly check it out! thank! i also looked at the reviews and there very good. ill be ordering tomorrow

idk what it is lately but iv been just addicted to exploring new music. surly it couldn't have anything to do with these bad ass new 228s
A good speaker with massive dynamics and clarity like the 228 will do that to people I am essentially a consistent music listener. Not during work hours but pretty much any other time I am enjoying either my own music, or looking into new stuff. My genres span across pretty much everything. Not much classical, or country, but other than that I am wide open. The EDM scene is still pretty fresh to me but I have dug into it pretty good for the last few years. PM for some other great suggestions if you are yearning for some great stuff, won't clog up the main cool person chatroom anymore...aka the JTR thread
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Boy you don't even stop with that HTPC talk do ya?
HDMI 2.0 with 10 bit video and hardware HEVC decoding was released today for the HTPC for around $200. Sweet!

Something that might interest you - I've got a pair of external crossovers coming in a couple weeks for my LS6's.
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HDMI 2.0 with 10 bit video and hardware HEVC decoding was released today for the HTPC for around $200. Sweet!
Where's the dislike button? Throwing out something about a cool new product but no linkage? Bad man...bad.

EDIT: I'm assuming DD is referring to the Nvidia GeForce GTX 960 video card.
https://www.google.com/search?q=nvid...utf-8&oe=utf-8

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EDIT: I'm assuming DD is referring to the Nvidia GeForce GTX 960 video card.
https://www.google.com/search?q=nvid...utf-8&oe=utf-8
You are correct! The ASUS STRIX and MSI Gaming 900 series video cards have 0 rpm fans until the temps get fairly hot. I've had the MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G for 4 months now.
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You are correct! The ASUS STRIX and MSI Gaming 900 series video cards have 0 rpm fans until the temps get fairly hot. I've had the MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G for 4 months now.
Has anyone learned Nvidia's stance on Atmos? LOL!
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HDMI 2.0 with 10 bit video and hardware HEVC decoding was released today for the HTPC for around $200. Sweet!

Something that might interest you - I've got a pair of external crossovers coming in a couple weeks for my LS6's.

How many movies have you seen that are 10bit encoded?
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How many movies have you seen that are 10bit encoded?
Why do people have to come with logic so often on AVS?

EDIT - And for the record, I'm more interested in the HDMI 2.0 capability on a computer than 10-bit something or other. Just shows that the computer will remain a viable option for the near term...depending on if it gets Atmos or similar recent codecs...which is a big if.

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How many movies have you seen that are 10bit encoded?
Hardware always needs to precede media. Nobody's going to put Ultra HD (UHD) Blu-ray's on shelves without the capability to play them. I believe Netflix's 4K content is 10-bit.

How many 4K TV's and projectors are 10-bit?

On Blu-rays on my HTPC, the chroma is upscaled using a 16-bit buffer and then reduced back down to 8-bit for final output at 1080p. Any upscaling is also done in 16-bit. With a 10-bit output, now many users can take better advantage of their 10-bit 4K display devices when upscaling to 4K. This has the benefit of less color banding and wider color gamut.
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Why do people have to come with logic so often on AVS?

EDIT - And for the record, I'm more interested in the HDMI 2.0 capability on a computer than 10-bit something or other. Just shows that the computer will remain a viable option for the near term...depending on if it gets Atmos or similar recent codecs...which is a big if.
I believe that LAV filters already have that capability.

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