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I was tempted to tell the parent to replace it...but, it is just a dust cap. But then again, that's like putting a scratch on my weekend sports car. I'll just vent in my own way by being passive aggressive to them now

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Exactly.. I hope the parents
said something to their kid for that.. It's still our hard earned money no matter how we look at it.
Yup...Since it doesn't look fancy or familiar as say, Bose, they'd probably not believe the S8 price

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Yup...Since it doesn't look fancy or familiar as say, Bose, they'd probably not believe the S8 price
Recently, when some guests saw my 212s, the looked at me excitedly and asked, "Are you a DJ!?!?"
No, just a home theater nut.
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Recently, when some guests saw my 212s, the looked at me excitedly and asked, "Are you a DJ!?!?"
No, just a home theater nut.
Ha...the 212 do get that reaction, moreso with the fridge shifters...but now that I've got a huge AT screen covering most of it, I do miss seeing the behemoths.

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I received a pair of 212HTs yesterday. In order to do a direct comparison against my T12s I took them off the 18" stands and put the 212s on the stands while turning Ausyssey off. I listened exclusively in Stereo. I also stayed up all Damn night waiting for listening fatigue to set in before I went to bed. Needless to say I woke up at 5:30 in my chair b/c I passed out before my ears gave up.

First thing I noticed was how Unbelievable the phantom center was. I always thought Phantom centers was a 2 channel gimmick till now. I had to unplug the center so I could convince myself the T12 center was not on. F'ing Unbelievable!!!!

Is there more midbass? ......YES........ In a direct comparison with the T12, which should be identical from 400hz down, the 212 has an audible amount of more midbass. The best I can explain it is I would have to Boost the T12 along the 60hz region to get the same output. I have no idea how Jeff added the "more midbass" into the 212 but its there.

IMO The 212 and T12 have the exact same sound or sonic sig. The difference is everything the T12 does well the 212 does better. Its like a Mustang GT (T12) vs Shelby GT500 (212). One is great the other is just Better.

The sweetspot is very wide. I can stand up or sit down without loosing any sound quality and I can sit in the seat to the R or L and it sounds as good as the LP. I am going to move my SubM HPs to the inside of the L&R speaker so I can increase the distance between the LR to 13'. This should increase the subwoofer performace too.

The above are just a few obvious first impressions I had and I'm glad to have the T12s available for a comparison. It reaffirms to me just how great the T12s are. The 212HT is a very special and exciting speaker with unmatched clarity and dynamics. I definitely am going to have to get "above reference capable" surrounds so I do not blow my current Mythos Tens. For now I will have to run a 5.1 (2 subs) system with the T12s as center and rear surrounds. I also took some pictures of the 212s next to the T12s I will post when I figure out how.
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I received a pair of 212HTs yesterday. In order to do a direct comparison against my T12s I took them off the 18" stands and put the 212s on the stands while turning Ausyssey off. I listened exclusively in Stereo. I also stayed up all Damn night waiting for listening fatigue to set in before I went to bed. Needless to say I woke up at 5:30 in my chair b/c I passed out before my ears gave up.

First thing I noticed was how Unbelievable the phantom center was. I always thought Phantom centers was a 2 channel gimmick till now. I had to unplug the center so I could convince myself the T12 center was not on. F'ing Unbelievable!!!!

Is there more midbass? ......YES........ In a direct comparison with the T12, which should be identical from 400hz down, the 212 has an audible amount of more midbass. The best I can explain it is I would have to Bump the T12 along the 60hz region to get the same output. I have no idea how Jeff added the "more midbass" into the 212 but its there.

IMO The 212 and T12 have the exact same sound or sonic sig. The difference is everything the T12 does well the 212 does better. Its like a Mustang GT (T12) vs GT 500 (212).

The sweetspot is very wide. I can stand up or sit down without loosing any sound quality and I can sit in the seat to the R or L and it sounds as good as the LP. I am going to move my SubM HPs to the inside of the L&R speaker so I can increase the distance between the LR to 13'. This should increase the subwoofer performace too.

The above are just a few obvious first impressions I had and I'm glad to have the T12s available for a comparison. It reaffirms to me just how great the T12s are. The 212HT is a very special and exciting speaker with unmatched clarity and dynamics. I definitely am going to have to get "above reference capable" surrounds so I do not blow my current Mythos Tens. For now I will have to run a 5.1 (2 subs) system with the T12s as center and rear surrounds. I also took some pictures of the 212s next to the T12s I will post when I figure out how.
Congrats! How were you powering the 212HT and what was the crossover set at?

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Congrats! How were you powering the 212HT and what was the crossover set at?
XO = 80hz ........... D-Sonic M2 1500 (1000 wpc @ 4ohm x 3 channels)

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Chris do you have the 2105 model?
Yes 2015
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XO = 80hz ........... D-Sonic M2 1500 (1000 wpc @ 4ohm x 3 channels)
I think that's my issue in regards to not having the same testimony to midbass...my lack of power for 212HT's...since I power just from my sr7008. We're going to have a DSonic 3 channel at the gtg this weekend...I can't wait to hear what I've been missing.

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I think that's my issue in regards to not having the same testimony to midbass...my lack of power for 212HT's...since I power just from my sr7008. We're going to have a DSonic 3 channel at the gtg this weekend...I can't wait to hear what I've been missing.
The 7008 should do well in 2 channel mode. The increased midbass in the 2015 version of the 212HT sounds like a small bass boost. It should be easy to do with EQ on the previous version 212HT.

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One of my favorite dvds to play is Alice in Chains Unplugged. I like how I can hear Jerry Cantrell scrape the neck of his guitar with the pick when he is playing hard. What the 212s also revealed was the PA static that the early 90's recording had. Never heard it before now its all I hear. I probably will not even listen to it much anymore. Thankfully I have every AIC recording that I know of before Lanes death.

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I think that's my issue in regards to not having the same testimony to midbass...my lack of power for 212HT's...since I power just from my sr7008. We're going to have a DSonic 3 channel at the gtg this weekend...I can't wait to hear what I've been missing.
It's not a lack of power, you have to EQ it in to have more mid bass. You could have 2000 watts or 100 watts and the mid bass at very loud levels would sound identical if neither is EQ'd.
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It's not a lack of power, you have to EQ it in to have more mid bass. You could have 2000 watts or 100 watts and the mid bass at very loud levels would sound identical if neither is EQ'd.
I should try that...what do you recommend to use for EQing? When Austin came around to program the minidsp he let me hold...it was great with movies...now that i think about it, I don't recall doing just 2-channel for stereo...Suppose I should get a minidsp already...

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