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I bought the Triton One's along with a Supercenter XL and Triton Seven surrounds at Christmas time, I have them right next to a pair of LS9 line source speakers that I own and I have demoed the 212HT's, so far, overall I like the Triton One's better than my LS9's and going by memory better than the 212HT's. They ALL sound phenomenal however so either way you go I believe you would be extremely happy. I haven't had the LS9's hooked up for 1-1/2 months but eventually i will place them again right next to the T1's for another more in depth comparison. I can say they sound REALLY great with everything I have played through them and they are not finicky for room placement, the soundstage is HUGE and the highs are REALLY nice, totally non-fatiguing. I own a JTR OS subwoofer but for most listening I don't even have the OS on and don't really miss it at all so the bass with the built in subs was one of the biggest surprises for me as I wasn't expecting that much bass from them. Recently I have added the OS back in and everyting is playing through an Emotiva XPR-5 amp, new Marantz AV7702 and a Oppo BDP-103D as my main source. I don't think I have ever been happier with any other pair of speakers I have ever owned and I have had some pretty nice speakers over the years. I can tell you also that the Triton Ones will CRANK and play very cleanly doing so. i listen mostly in multi-channel however they soundstage so incredible that i am enjoying listening in stereo all over again!
I will say I listened to some Tritons a few years ago as I was building my man cave and before I stumbled on to JTR. I remember walking out of there thinking they sounded really nice on 2 channel music. They were not set-up for HT so I have no experience on how they would handle higher volumes (i.e. would they start to compress, would they hold their nice highs, would the build in subs start to show their limits, etc....).
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Do you guys think it's ok to take the feet off of the 215's? I'm on carpet and it would be so much easier to slide the 215's when I need to move them if I didn't have the feet on them.

I remember Mark saying not to do this with the Submersive, but that makes sense because it's a sealed sub. Since the 215's are ported I'm guessing this is ok?
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Do you guys think it's ok to take the feet off of the 215's? I'm on carpet and it would be so much easier to slide the 215's when I need to move them if I didn't have the feet on them.

I remember Mark saying not to do this with the Submersive, but that makes sense because it's a sealed sub. Since the 215's are ported I'm guessing this is ok?
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You didn't? Well, I don't anymore!

Ugh, these suck to move even if just going from horizontal to vertical.
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Ugh, these suck to move even if just going from horizontal to vertical.
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I never got feet on my 215's either! lol They would be impossible to move around on my carpet with feet, i can see why carp wants them off!

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Do you guys think it's ok to take the feet off of the 215's? I'm on carpet and it would be so much easier to slide the 215's when I need to move them if I didn't have the feet on them.

I remember Mark saying not to do this with the Submersive, but that makes sense because it's a sealed sub. Since the 215's are ported I'm guessing this is ok?
Mine have rubber feet also. I just went to Wal Mart and bought a case of sliders. I put them under my chairs to move them back and forth and when I need to move the 215's I put them under the feet, but I don't leave them there like the chairs. I move everything with them.
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I did the same thing, I have some huge furniture sliders and I put 4 under each speaker. Slides and moves real easy now. I used the sliders when I first bought the speakers to experiment with speaker placement but I still had the feet on so you could see the sliders under the speakers and it looked ugly. Now that the feet are gone you can't see the sliders so it's a win win.
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I will say I listened to some Tritons a few years ago as I was building my man cave and before I stumbled on to JTR. I remember walking out of there thinking they sounded really nice on 2 channel music. They were not set-up for HT so I have no experience on how they would handle higher volumes (i.e. would they start to compress, would they hold their nice highs, would the build in subs start to show their limits, etc....).
Yes, this what I was thinking myself. I have heard the new Tritons sound very good and they even won a wow award over at the Shack from member Audio Raver at RMAF. Hearing a speaker at a audioshow is one thing, but bringing it to a GTG or your own home theater and giving it hell is another. Will the Triton One hold up when pushed to or above its limits? Where JTR's don't have limits IMO comparing the Triton One's to JTR's is really comparing Apples to Oranges. The Triton is a full range active speaker and would be better compared to the Cat12's. I have said numerous times that I want to hear the Tritons, I even thought about taking a ride up the road to check them out at a dealer. I think it is time once again for another blind heavy weight GTG with the Triton One's in the line up.

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one of my OS's came with rubber feet, had to remove them for the same reason. Now I don't move them but when I first set them up I must have tried about 20 different sub placement combinations for the 3 of them. No way I could have done that with the feet on and they weigh less that the 215!

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one of my OS's came with rubber feet, had to remove them for the same reason. Now I don't move them but when I first set them up I must have tried about 20 different sub placement combinations for the 3 of them. No way I could have done that with the feet on and they weigh less that the 215!
Honestly Lance the thought of three OS's in an HT just makes me laugh ... in a nervous laughter sort of way.

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Where are you guys getting the sliders from? I'd really like move my subs around too..
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I got mine from Ace Hardware, they are huge. Here is one:

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Hey everyone,

Just hooked up the new to me JTR triple 12 as LCR. Incredible sounding, clear up to extremely loud levels. I have them paired with a single submersive subwoofer in a L shape room.

I love the sound of the new JTR's but I feel they are missing the mid bass compared to my previous PSB Imagine T2. I understand the sub is now doing the majority of the work. I was curious if adding another sub would help in that scenario. The one submersive hp digs the low bass notes easily but it is lacking in the Midrange, at least that's what my ears are telling me.

I'm using an onkyo 818 receiver which has xt32 but no sub-eq and that scares me. Just looking for some recommendations. I've calibrated audyssey and set my speakers to 80hz all around and crossover for sub at 120hz.

Currently using the one submersive as a stand and was hoping to pick up another submersive and use it as a stand for the other speaker. I have no room at the back of my theatre and none on the sides as they are open. So the sub would have to go under the left speaker. Not sure if it will be optimal placement which is why sub-eq would help but I don't have it.

Should I grab a second sub? And if I do how do I calibrate them to integrate well without sub-eq?

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I bought the Triton One's along with a Supercenter XL and Triton Seven surrounds at Christmas time, I have them right next to a pair of LS9 line source speakers that I own and I have demoed the 212HT's, so far, overall I like the Triton One's better than my LS9's and going by memory better than the 212HT's. They ALL sound phenomenal however so either way you go I believe you would be extremely happy. I haven't had the LS9's hooked up for 1-1/2 months but eventually i will place them again right next to the T1's for another more in depth comparison. I can say they sound REALLY great with everything I have played through them and they are not finicky for room placement, the soundstage is HUGE and the highs are REALLY nice, totally non-fatiguing. I own a JTR OS subwoofer but for most listening I don't even have the OS on and don't really miss it at all so the bass with the built in subs was one of the biggest surprises for me as I wasn't expecting that much bass from them. Recently I have added the OS back in and everyting is playing through an Emotiva XPR-5 amp, new Marantz AV7702 and a Oppo BDP-103D as my main source. I don't think I have ever been happier with any other pair of speakers I have ever owned and I have had some pretty nice speakers over the years. I can tell you also that the Triton Ones will CRANK and play very cleanly doing so. i listen mostly in multi-channel however they soundstage so incredible that i am enjoying listening in stereo all over again!
Do you feel the Triton one's low end trumps the LS-9's? That would be quite a feat since the LS's f3 point is right at 20hz or so. My ls-6's put out a ridiculously impressive amount of bass, and it is still quite articulate....

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I got mine from Ace Hardware, they are huge. Here is one:

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I saw some at Home Depot for under $8 for an 8 pack of large 5" diameter round ones, in case if HD is more convenient.

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Today was a reminder of how I hate to paint! Regardless the texture is not quite a match but once dried the color is, besides who will notice mounded on the ceiling. Hopefully tomorrow I be checking them out.


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I got mine from Ace Hardware, they are huge. Here is one:

This is such a better idea than my original...which was to get a dolly to move my 215's.

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Yes, this what I was thinking myself. I have heard the new Tritons sound very good and they even won a wow award over at the Shack from member Audio Raver at RMAF. Hearing a speaker at a audioshow is one thing, but bringing it to a GTG or your own home theater and giving it hell is another. Will the Triton One hold up when pushed to or above its limits? Where JTR's don't have limits IMO comparing the Triton One's to JTR's is really comparing Apples to Oranges. The Triton is a full range active speaker and would be better compared to the Cat12's. I have said numerous times that I want to hear the Tritons, I even thought about taking a ride up the road to check them out at a dealer. I think it is time once again for another blind heavy weight GTG with the Triton One's in the line up.

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What kind of room?
Dedicated HT room 17' x 16' but with (2) 8' openings that lead into other rooms in the house that are in the rear and the side of the HT room.
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I will say I listened to some Tritons a few years ago as I was building my man cave and before I stumbled on to JTR. I remember walking out of there thinking they sounded really nice on 2 channel music. They were not set-up for HT so I have no experience on how they would handle higher volumes (i.e. would they start to compress, would they hold their nice highs, would the build in subs start to show their limits, etc....).
i had spoke to Sandy gross of Golden Ear in two different occasions and indicated I liked extreme volume at times with clarity, he did not recommend the Triton two's (the top model at the time) to me but when the Triton One's came out he said have at it basically
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Honestly Lance the thought of three OS's in an HT just makes me laugh ... in a nervous laughter sort of way.
that is funny Rob. I get a bit nervous too when we go really loud. Feels like something might break, oh yeah one of the sconces already did. BTW what are you powering those 215's with these days?

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i had spoke to Sandy gross of Golden Ear in two different occasions and indicated I liked extreme volume at times with clarity, he did not recommend the Triton two's (the top model at the time) to me but when the Triton One's came out he said have at it basically
I don't claim to know anything about speaker design but the whole Triton line shares common parts/drivers. So what I don't get is how would the same drivers in the Triton One not have some of the same limitation as the other speakers in the Triton line that have the same drivers (such as the Triton 2 and Triton 3..that use the same tweeter, midrange and sub drivers)?
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I don't claim to know anything about speaker design but the whole Triton line shares common parts/drivers. So what I don't get is how would the same drivers in the Triton One not have some of the same limitation as the other speakers in the Triton line that have the same drivers (such as the Triton 2 and Triton 3..that use the same tweeter, midrange and sub drivers)?
Just throwing out a guess here but perhaps he felt the low frequency section wasn't up to "extreme volume". The mids and tweeter are very similar between the one and two.
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I don't claim to know anything about speaker design but the whole Triton line shares common parts/drivers. So what I don't get is how would the same drivers in the Triton One not have some of the same limitation as the other speakers in the Triton line that have the same drivers (such as the Triton 2 and Triton 3..that use the same tweeter, midrange and sub drivers)?
Yeppers, I wondered the same however that's what the man said, I put them to the test and had no problems whatsoever.
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I was reading quick to catch up on several days of non forum usage....But did anyone else suggest that perhaps after running audyssey, you just crank the subwoofer level up a bit? Audyssey xt32 definitely neuters the bass a good bit to most people's preference, and for the most part, another 3-4dB will get you back to a happy place. Or if you are crazy, ya know, 7-8dB bump.... Also, not sure what the emp teks are good down to in room, what are your mains crossed at after the calibration? Hopefully they are set to small and somewhere around 80hz or so. This is typically a good spot to cross to a sub, especially the s2.
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So I started trial of Tidal hifi streaming service today...from the first track I played, I was very impressed how good it sounds.

I don't have an external dac, so I was glad to find out I can simply use my iPad to AirPlay directly from the Tidal app to the marantz. The sound quality even over AirPlay is excellent. You do have to expand the player for the song playing to find the AirPlay option by sliding expand from bottom, which wasn't too obvious right off the bat.

Another positive is the playlists they have for different situations....lounging, exercise, party, etc...very convenient and useful. The interface with artwork shows up on the screen via my Marantz, with basic controls as well.

Overall, sound quality is really impressing me the most...and making me enjoy songs I wouldn't have discovered unless they sounded this good. I'm not sure if I'll keep it since I usually get CDs, but when I can turn it up to -10 and it's crystal clean thru the jayterz, it's really nice to know there won't be drop in sq track to track...damn it sounds so good....playing "Runaway" by Galantis whom I've never heard of before and this is just reminding me why I love my jayterz. The convenience and sound quality really lives up to the monthly subscription if you listen to lots of music. If I keep Tidal, I may have to setup a good quality 2 channel in the family room to fully take advantage of the benefits.

Try the app on your idevice and AirPlay it...I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. No separate dac required!

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that is funny Rob. I get a bit nervous too when we go really loud. Feels like something might break, oh yeah one of the sconces already did. BTW what are you powering those 215's with these days?
I bought 2 Behringer iNuke NU4-6000's and one is powering the 215's and the other the Atmos ceiling speakers. They run cool and quiet and I like them.
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