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I had Parasound amps running my 215RT's before making the move to Crown's and I can't say I noticed any difference between the two. So my ears are also of a less precious metal plus they are 52 years old.

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Cool, whatcha gonna get?
The updated Denon X7200WA. (2.2 HDCP) I canceled my Emotiva XMC-1 order and went with the Denon. Probably not going to be much different than my 4520, but Atmos will be fun. Not to mention I need a good AVR for the living room as the my 2312 is not cutting it.

Also wanted to ask you Rob, when I did my theater I wired two height channels but are not active right now. Can I use those heights for Atmos? I mean do heights play a role or is it just ceiling? I will probably just add 2 in ceiling as I only have 3 seats and a small room, but thought I could incorporate front heights also.
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The updated Denon X7200WA. (2.2 HDCP) I canceled my Emotiva XMC-1 order and went with the Denon. Probably not going to be much different than my 4520, but Atmos will be fun. Not to mention I need a good AVR for the living room as the my 2312 is not cutting it.

Also wanted to ask you Rob, when I did my theater I wired two height channels but are not active right now. Can I use those heights for Atmos? I mean do heights play a role or is it just ceiling? I will probably just add 2 in ceiling as I only have 3 seats and a small room, but thought I could incorporate front heights also.
the heights will work perfectly you will just need to install Top Middle (basically directly overhead or slightly behind) and you'll be golden

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The updated Denon X7200WA. (2.2 HDCP) I canceled my Emotiva XMC-1 order and went with the Denon. Probably not going to be much different than my 4520, but Atmos will be fun. Not to mention I need a good AVR for the living room as the my 2312 is not cutting it.

Also wanted to ask you Rob, when I did my theater I wired two height channels but are not active right now. Can I use those heights for Atmos? I mean do heights play a role or is it just ceiling? I will probably just add 2 in ceiling as I only have 3 seats and a small room, but thought I could incorporate front heights also.
Like Burger King you can have it your way with Atmos. I'd try setting up with Atmos and designate your heights as Height Front (I think that is the designation) and see if you like it. Also, see if you can get the Dolby Atmos demo disk as that is the best way to sample Atmos.

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the heights will work perfectly you will just need to install Top Middle (basically directly overhead or slightly behind) and you'll be golden
My only problem is I have the 215's up front and the wires are just over the 215's. You can see in theater pics below. Not allot of height in my room with the 215's LOL The 215's are my height speakers.
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they go off a "angle of speaker in relation to ear height" standard...which through a bunch of tests by others...does make a big difference no matter how you have it implemented..so you should be fine.

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Like Burger King you can have it your way with Atmos. I'd try setting up with Atmos and designate your heights as Height Front (I think that is the designation) and see if you like it. Also, see if you can get the Dolby Atmos demo disk as that is the best way to sample Atmos.
Yeah I got the demo disc from a fellow KC'R. When we went to the AMC Prime for the GTG they did the folding boxing Atmos demo and it was spectacular! I would have loved to have put it on a loop. I was shocked at the bass in that theater, best I have ever heard in a commercial theater. It was like being at Gorilla's or Beast house

Now you can see in this pic just how much room I have for heights, but I think they will work if I can find something small and flush mount it to the ceiling. The 215's were not part of the plan when I built the room or I would have placed the wires higher or in the ceiling.



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Congrats on your purchase. Hopefully you bought before the price increase. Make sure you post a pic, would love to see the gloss black finish.
Thanks and I did get the sale price. I have never heard the cap 1400, and am basing the purchase off o the sound/build quality and value of the 210rts I heard at Axpona. It looks like it should shake the walls if I want it too. I need it to blend well with my Watt Puppy 8s for music as well. I will post pics when it is set up.
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I like the minidsp for sub integration and REW for verifying FR, IR and bass decay rates. The mini 2x4 balanced has lots of control and great user interface for sub integration. I am in Oak Creek and could show you how it works if you like.
Thanks lbrown105 I might just take you up on that. I usually stay away from DSP, but I would like to use something to measure with and fine tune the sub's phase, volume, and cut off and then remove the hardware/software from the system. I will research your suggestion.

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I will tell you one thing. Dirac does make a difference. I could certainly tell a difference with my system (Marantz AV7702) when I added a DDRC-88A (Dirac room correction) to it. Because of this and some of the other MiniDSP products that I have used, we decided to pick up the line.
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Dirac is the real deal. More so than atmos to be honest (I guess cause there are only 9 movies with atmos out and my entire collection get the benefit of Dirac including 2 channel)
LOL! I just came from Brian's build thread talking about Dirac. I still use lowly Audyssey with My Denon 4520 and team it up with a mini DSP Open DRC for the two SubM's. I am going to look into this unit from mini dsp very closley. Based on the reading I have done Dirac has been the direction I feel I have always wanted to go.

I havn't followed every post for some time now. I know there was discussion in the past about Dirac and this unit and others. Can anyone re-hash a quick testimony of switching to this unit or Dirac from XT32?

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I don't own JTR speakers (yet) and wouldn't want to exclude myself.
Are you starting to get the JTR itch? Would they be in addition to or replacing your line arrays? (Which I would love to hear btw)
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I know one thing, I just watched an extended version of the new Star Wars movie and it is going to be just incredible. I know it will probably be this time next year that we get the Bluray, but it is going to be incredible for our JTR's. Hoping it will be mixed in Atmos. I am willing to bet this movie might be the biggest grossing movie of all time. Avatar sits a top the list now in #1 .
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^Reef, how long was the extended version?

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I know one thing, I just watched an extended version of the new Star Wars movie and it is going to be just incredible. I know it will probably be this time next year that we get the Bluray, but it is going to be incredible for our JTR's. Hoping it will be mixed in Atmos. I am willing to bet this movie might be the biggest grossing movie of all time. Avatar sits a top the list now in #1 .

So very excited to see this. I guess DTS:X would also be brilliant.

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I know one thing, I just watched an extended version of the new Star Wars movie and it is going to be just incredible. I know it will probably be this time next year that we get the Bluray, but it is going to be incredible for our JTR's. Hoping it will be mixed in Atmos. I am willing to bet this movie might be the biggest grossing movie of all time. Avatar sits a top the list now in #1 .
I think they should rank movies in number of tickets sold instead of how much money they make. I bet avatar isn't in the top 10.
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Just got the Single 8's hooked up as L and R mains (clear, detailed, and have a nice sound stage). Doing just fine with the subs, but wife thinks they are a little small in comparison. She wonders why we got rid of the RF-7ii mains. Hurry up next week!
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Are you starting to get the JTR itch? Would they be in addition to or replacing your line arrays? (Which I would love to hear btw)
I am thinking more about adding the Slant 8's as surrounds. I don't plan to replace my line arrays.
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Where's Super Troopers and Joe Dirt???
Joe Dirt was the best. I read Joe Dirt 2 is coming out this year. About 8 years to late IMO, but looking forward to it!!


Anyway, I want to give a shout out to Mike Garret at AV Sales @AV Science Sales 5 I finalized my transaction with him yesterday for my new Denon and it was on my step by noon today. I believe it was the same way last time with my 4520 and oppo. No BS, no hassle, just good fast service!! I told Mike I am using him for all my upgrades for now on!
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Can anyone re-hash a quick testimony of switching to this unit or Dirac from XT32?
Ah, I shall just roll into the mini dsp Dirac thread...4k replies to wade through

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Joe Dirt was the best. I read Joe Dirt 2 is coming out this year. About 8 years to late IMO, but looking forward to it!!


Anyway, I want to give a shout out to Mike Garret at AV Sales @AV Science Sales 5 I finalized my transaction with him yesterday for my new Denon and it was on my step by noon today. I believe it was the same way last time with my 4520 and oppo. No BS, no hassle, just good fast service!! I told Mike I am using him for all my upgrades for now on!

Agreed. Mike was awesome to deal with. I picked up my RS4910 from him and I don't think the transaction could have gone any smoother. I had a few questions with regards to my situation and he answered everything in a professional manner. Never got the sense he was rushing me off the phone. Never tried to push me in another, more expensive direction. All he did was offer his honest opinion/insight based on the information I gave him. What more could you want?
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I'm doing the same thing. The 88a seems very interesting. I've also downloaded the user manual and have read through that.


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Just read the review, congrats to you for making this product and congrats to me for buying 2.
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If you laid the cap 1400 on it side will it hurt it performance, I guessing not but jut wanted ask to be sure.
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If you laid the cap 1400 on it side will it hurt it performance, I guessing not but jut wanted ask to be sure.
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Works fine on it's side. This is actually the reason I don't install feet on them.
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It should be just fine on its side.


Edit: Jeff beat me to it.
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As cool as the Cap tests were, I'm even more impressed with the Growlers numbers! holy cow!!!! for a 12? thats some serious output..... I want 2 so bad but have so many car parts to buy LOL Ahh first world problems at their best.

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As cool as the Cap tests were, I'm even more impressed with the Growlers numbers! holy cow!!!! for a 12? thats some serious output..... I want 2 so bad but have so many car parts to buy LOL Ahh first world problems at their best.

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