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So I received the speakers last wednesday


Those boxes look beatup . Were these new from Jeff and if so, what shipping service was used?

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Congrats and (of course) I was going to say how about some pics. I have the 215RM as a center and I love it and I know how big it is. I just watched Seventh Son last night and I'm not saying it's the best movie but it sounds amazing...would be something good to demo your 215's and Seaton's.
Wife came down after it was all set up and asked if jeff could take back the center speaker…"its too big", LOL.
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Those boxes look beatup . Were these new from Jeff and if so, what shipping service was used?

Yes they were a little beat up.. Nothing major.. The speakers themselves were fine.. Jeff shipped them using fedex ground..
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Wife came down after it was all set up and asked if jeff could take back the center speaker…"its too big", LOL.
Ah, don't worry about it. After awhile, it starts to look normal. Then when you go to BB, everything else there seems like a rip off because everything looks small..
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For me none of the pictures show...not sure if it's just me or not.

It should be fixed now ..
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Yes they were a little beat up.. Nothing major.. The speakers themselves were fine.. Jeff shipped them using fedex ground..
Thanks and I'm glad (but not surprised) the speakers were fine. This makes a good case for pallet shipping via freight even if it costs more. The speakers are so solidly built they can withstand the abuse FedEx and UPS dish out, but the boxes will tell the tale. Those appear to have been dropped several times and from a pretty good height.

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Thanks and I'm glad (but not surprised) the speakers were fine. This makes a good case for pallet shipping via freight even if it costs more. The speakers are so solidly built they can withstand the abuse FedEx and UPS dish out, but the boxes will tell the tale. Those appear to have been dropped several times and from a pretty good height.
Why would you waste your money when "GROUND"shipping is so much cheaper?


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^^^Thanks Dave really shows quality and service at its best.

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^^^Thanks Dave really shows quality and service at its best.
Cannot say this about all of them. I know my guys have been delivering to me for years and all are great. There is also a freight guy that delivers to me and the first thing he says is "What'd you get now" LOL. There must have been a fill in the other day though. I had a note on the door that said my dogs were the reason of no delivery. However he walked up to the house to put the note on the door. He is lucky he made it past my ferocious Shih Tzu's
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Why would you waste your money when "GROUND"shipping is so much cheaper?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw-zxJI1YOo

Don't kid yourself, FedEx air is just as bad!.....lol
I've had a conversation with our local FedEx guy that drops stuff off at my office and he says that even packages labelled fragile need to be able to withstand a drop from 36" without getting damaged. So basically FedEx is saying if something falls off of the back of their trucks they're not responsible for any damages.
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Thanks and I'm glad (but not surprised) the speakers were fine. This makes a good case for pallet shipping via freight even if it costs more. The speakers are so solidly built they can withstand the abuse FedEx and UPS dish out, but the boxes will tell the tale. Those appear to have been dropped several times and from a pretty good height.
Yeah when I spoke with Jeff he gets great rates on pallet level shipping.

Can't wait for my pallet to arrive.
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Yeah when I spoke with Jeff he gets great rates on pallet level shipping.

Can't wait for my pallet to arrive.
Join the club. I am waiting on my 215RM.
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To all JTR 212HT/228HT owners, what surrounds (except Single 8s) are your using with them?
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To all JTR 212HT/228HT owners, what surrounds (except Single 8s) are your using with them?
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To all JTR 212HT/228HT owners, what surrounds (except Single 8s) are your using with them?

I am using triple 12s and single 8s for surrounds and soon volt 10lx as atmos top speakers..
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So I received the speakers last wednesday
I did not do a through setup but here are my initial impressions..

I had to use the Harrison labs 12db line level attenuators to get the receiver to adjust the sound level within the 12 db max adjustment. While that worked, I felt that it negatively impacted the sound other than just reducing the volume. I then did a calibration without them using an SPL meter and the results were a whole lot better. I did not do any measurements so my remarks are all subjective.
I used the method outlined in this page
https://audyssey.zendesk.com/entries...mains-at-12db-

The panels behind the speakers did make a difference in the sound quality and the overall intelligibility of the dialog.. When I removed them I could feel the extra echo and it did not sound as easy on the ears. Again this is all subjective but I am planning to do rew measurements when I get done with the rest of the screen wall..

Sound quality is excellent as expected and I believe it had an edge over the triple 12s especially with the highs and mids. I should be able to get a better impression when I have a proper calibration when the room finished and cleaned..

Watching a movie with the AT screen is a whole different experience than using one with the speakers on the sides. Especially with the dialog part.
So far so good!
Looks great!
Did you try moving the panels between the speakers?
It looks like they are limiting your toe in when they are behind the speakers.
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For ATMOS duties, do you guys have any suggestion as to slim / low mounting depth speakers that would match our JTR ?
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For ATMOS duties, do you guys have any suggestion as to slim / low mounting depth speakers that would match our JTR ?
7" depth = http://jtrspeakers.com/home-audio/single-8ht-lp/
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I haven't tried that yet. I can still toe in the speaker some more before I need to move the panels so I will use that option when I run out of space. Yesterday, I toed them in so they are almost pointing at the left / right ears of the MLP and they sounded better that way.

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Looks great!
Did you try moving the panels between the speakers?
It looks like they are limiting your toe in when they are behind the speakers.
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I still have the big plastic pallet my OS came on. I'm not a hoarder and my wife asks me all the time why I don't get rid of it, which I reply by asking her why she won't get rid of the baby crib? [emoji1]
Something about baby cribs and cradles that women have some kind of emotional bond to them. When my son was born, my mom gave me my cradle that I used when I was born for my first born. I think it is that kind of stuff they think about and you have to just let them hold on to that stuff. Me, I would throw away everything in my house, but somethings I just tread lightly on.
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Something about baby cribs and cradles that women have some kind of emotional bond to them. When my son was born, my mom gave me my cradle that I used when I was born for my first born. I think it is that kind of stuff they think about and you have to just let them hold on to that stuff. Me, I would throw away everything in my house, but somethings I just tread lightly on.
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I haven't tried that yet. I can still toe in the speaker some more before I need to move the panels so I will use that option when I run out of space. Yesterday, I toed them in so they are almost pointing at the left / right ears of the MLP and they sounded better that way.
It's worth trying crossing them a bit in front of the MLP. Seems weird, but sometimes it can widen the sweet spot while maintaining everything else (imaging, quality, etc). This trick works best with horns, where you lose volume off axis, but the FR doesn't change much. Sometimes pointing straight at the MLP will give better imaging, though.
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Hey guys. What's he going rate for a pair of triple 8's
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I want to give a shout out to Jeff (and Mark Seaton) for their help last Friday in picking up 3 new 215RM's. Jeff has been busy on his move, so he and Mark were able to help with a local pickup at Mark's facility. I rented a Lincoln Navigator (they barely fit, LOL).

As some of you know, I had originally committed to 210RT's and matching 210RM center, but after discussing things with Jeff and having the sealed Seatons up front we decided on staying sealed.

These beasts are big, heavy, and very well made.

Got back to Louisville and finally wrestled them into the basement theater (thanks dad!). Set things up yesterday and ran Audyssey on Marantz pre/pro. The mains and center were set as full range and the single 8's were set to 150hz (odd?).

Started to listen and I must say that these are incredible. Its obvious that these have great bass punch (not even boosting, yet), but the horn loaded coaxial compression driver sounds silky smooth and I am hearing details wasn't able to hear before. The sound state is magnificent, even in their current (less than optimal) positions. BTW- these can get very loud and at high levels are as sharp as a tack!

Thanks very much for making an outstanding product and going the extra mile. Going to hit Best Buy for a new movie for later.

Pix to follow after I figure out how to resize on a Mac???

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In the Navigator and in the basement theater....

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$900-$1000 bucks would be my guess!
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$900-$1000 bucks would be my guess!
Thanks

There are a pair for local pickup here for 900$ wondered if it was a good buy
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There are a pair for local pickup here for 900$ wondered if it was a good buy
Yep and you can sell them for the same money when you upgrade to the 212HT's 4 months later
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