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Well, I am happy to report that earlier in the day I joined the JTR family of owners with my purchase of a trio of the, first-ever, 228HTRs.

Delivery in 4-5 weeks, sez Jeff. Let the hopeful anticipation begin.

Whoo hoo!

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Nice little amps and I've got one of those too ... It's powering the side surrounds. Did you notice that when you were here?
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My Inuke 6000dsp made a terrible thump after turning them off. I would always cringe when I hit my switches to turn them off. My Emotiva xpa-2 and xpa-5 before the turds broke, didn;t make any sounds and my current D-Sonic doesn't either.

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No, no relay.
But I was hoping to use something to remote power on/off.
It didn't make the sound without using the relay, but it would drive me nuts to have to walk into the next room everytime I turn on and off the system and I don't like the idea of leaving the amp on all the time.
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Well, I am happy to report that earlier in the day I joined the JTR family of owners with my purchase of a trio of the, first-ever, 228HTRs.

Delivery in 4-5 weeks, sez Jeff. Let the hopeful anticipation begin.

Whoo hoo!

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Nice! So, those have the big boy compression driver?
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Nice! So, those have the big boy compression driver?
Yes, and the wooden horn.

At 75lbs, I'm hoping to use this Peavey wall mount (WALLMOUNT-STAND-BK):



to allow me to swing away the L speaker from in front of the equipment rack when I need access, and then back for normal operation.

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installed in the bottoms of any of their speakers? To allow for this kind of mounting strategy?

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Are you running the 215HT's full range no subs for movies or crossed over with subs? I would say if you are running full range no subs, I would turn off Audyssey. Audyssey just neuters the big boys. You can also bypass L&R, but myself I just cut off completely.
With Audyssey off, how do you tame the peaks and valleys in the bass region?
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Well, I am happy to report that earlier in the day I joined the JTR family of owners with my purchase of a trio of the, first-ever, 228HTRs.

Delivery in 4-5 weeks, sez Jeff. Let the hopeful anticipation begin.

Whoo hoo!

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Congrats on the choice and being the 1st 228HTR owner.
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Well, I am happy to report that earlier in the day I joined the JTR family of owners with my purchase of a trio of the, first-ever, 228HTRs.

Delivery in 4-5 weeks, sez Jeff. Let the hopeful anticipation begin.

Whoo hoo!

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Could you please share some specs on the 228HTR? I cant find it on the website or forum.

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Come on Jeff! Fill us in on this 228 HTR
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So the new 228HT now has a wooden horn and the same compression driver as the old 212TT (new 212HT)?

And the new 228HTR has a wooden horn and the same coaxial compression driver as the new 212HTR (old 212HT)?

My late 2013 / early 2014 228HTs are now officially dated!
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Jeff, does the 228HT now use a 1.4" compression driver like the 212HT instead of the older 1" BMS unit?
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One of these 228 models could be my surrounds depending on what Jeff does in terms of Atmos speakers.

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Jeff, does the 228HT now use a 1.4" compression driver like the 212HT instead of the older 1" BMS unit?
If Jeff is using this CD http://www.bmsspeakers.com/index.php?id=bms_4554 in the new version 228HT then it just took a nice step forward in total performance.

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If Jeff is using this CD http://www.bmsspeakers.com/index.php?id=bms_4554 in the new version 228HT then it just took a nice step forward in total performance.

That's the same thing that I was thinking! I wonder if the crossover point was lowered too.
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So the new 228HT now has a wooden horn and the same compression driver as the old 212TT (new 212HT)?
Yes sir.


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And the new 228HTR has a wooden horn and the same coaxial compression driver as the new 212HTR (old 212HT)?
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I wonder if the crossover point was lowered too.
Yes, the new Noesis 228HT will have a much lower crossover point. I still tweaking the crossover a little so I don't have the exact crossover point just yet.

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If Jeff is using this CD http://www.bmsspeakers.com/index.php?id=bms_4554 in the new version 228HT then it just took a nice step forward in total performance.
Actually, the 4554, 4555 and 4550 are almost identical but with different exit diameters. The 4552 and 4547 are also almost identical but neo. However, BMS doesn't offer any compression drivers optimized for lower frequencies other than their coaxials so we're not using a BMS in the 228HT and 212HT. The lower crossover point means that the compression driver is reproducing more of the mid range for better sound quality and better off axis response.
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Having blown most of my budget (ha! 'Budget'... that's a joke), uhh, er... having blown all of my current $$ allotment for self-indulgences, but still wanting to make a clean sweep of it, I ordered 8 Volt-8s from diysoundgroup.com.

So, I will have 3 matched LCRs, 4 matched surrounds, and 4 matched Atmos speakers... This assemblage will be taking the place of my current hodgepodge: LR = B&W 803 SIIs; C = B&W FCM8; LR Surrounds = Atlantic Research 454 SR; LR Backs = Wharfedale Diamond 7.2s.

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And the new 228HTR has a wooden horn and the same coaxial compression driver as the new 212HTR (old 212HT)?
Yes sir.

Thanks, Jeff, for that clarification. That was what I took away from our recent e-mail exchange.

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Having blown most of my budget (ha! 'Budget'... that's a joke), uhh, er... having blown all of my current $$ allotment for self-indulgences, but still wanting to make a clean sweep of it, I ordered 8 Volt-8s from diysoundgroup.com.

So, I will have 3 matched LCRs, 4 matched surrounds, and 4 matched Atmos speakers... This assemblage will be taking the place of my current hodgepodge: LR = B&W 803 SIIs; C = B&W FCM8; LR Surrounds = Atlantic Research 454 SR; LR Backs = Wharfedale Diamond 7.2s.

Now I just have to deal with the amplification.
The Volt's work well with the JTR's. I'm using 4 Volt 6's for my height channels (no Atmos yet) but they sound nice together. I think you will enjoy.

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That's good to hear. The room is fairly small (~14x15x8, excluding the area behind the screen/equipment rack), and the surrounds/backs/height speakers are fairly close to the seats, so I'm hoping that the combination of
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  • sensitivity (93dB)
  • power handling (300W)
  • dispersion characteristics (? - I think someone posted some info on this before, but I only remember that it was a fairly wide angle), and
  • size (8" x 12" x 5"-8")
make these a reasonable choice. If the sensitivity and power handling, as listed, are accurate, that translates into an SPL of something like, 117dB at 1m... just shy of "Risk of instantaneous noise-induced hearing loss" levels (wikipedia). At the prime listening position, the maximum distance to any of the surrounds is ~2m. That should be adequate SPL, yes?

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Now with the price of the 228HT reduced to just 40 dollars more than the Single - 8ht, would it be better to choose the 228 for surrounds with the bigger noesis for the front stage?

I am debating with

Option 1
LR - 210RT
C -210RM
Surrounds - Single 8HT-LP (as they can be mounted to the left and right of MLP)
Surround Back - 228HT (placed on SubM + slave)


Option 1
LR - 210RT
C -210RM
Surrounds - Single 8HT-LP (as they can be mounted to the left and right of MLP)
Surround Back - Singe 8HT (placed on SubM + slave)


Which option would be better?

I will hopefully be placing my order with Jeff today. The time difference is a litle bit of a pain as i am fast asleep when he checks his mails and he is done for the day when I awake

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Now with the price of the 228HT reduced to just 40 dollars more than the Single - 8ht, would it be better to choose the 228 for surrounds with the bigger noesis for the front stage?

I am debating with

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LR - 210RT
C -210RM
Surrounds - Single 8HT-LP (as they can be mounted to the left and right of MLP)
Surround Back - 228HT (placed on SubM + slave)


Option 1
LR - 210RT
C -210RM
Surrounds - Single 8HT-LP (as they can be mounted to the left and right of MLP)
Surround Back - Singe 8HT (placed on SubM + slave)


Which option would be better?

I will hopefully be placing my order with Jeff today. The time difference is a litle bit of a pain as i am fast asleep when he checks his mails and he is done for the day when I awake
I'm pretty impressed with the Single 8's abilities. But for 40 buck's I'd get the 228HT's unless space was a concern.
Nice to have two Options 1's =)
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I'm pretty impressed with the Single 8's abilities. But for 40 buck's I'd get the 228HT's unless space was a concern.
Nice to have two Options 1's =)
Thanks. Yup silly mistake on my part wrt Option 1 and Option 1.

I think I can fit in the 228s easily.

Cant wait to here the whole setup. The Single 8s blow me away every time I hear them.

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Depends on your seating. If you have a small space or multiple rows, some of your seating positions may not fall within the dispersion area of the 228s and in that case the single 8s would be better.
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Now with the price of the 228HT reduced to just 40 dollars more than the Single - 8ht, would it be better to choose the 228 for surrounds with the bigger noesis for the front stage?

I am debating with

Option 1
LR - 210RT
C -210RM
Surrounds - Single 8HT-LP (as they can be mounted to the left and right of MLP)
Surround Back - 228HT (placed on SubM + slave)


Option 1
LR - 210RT
C -210RM
Surrounds - Single 8HT-LP (as they can be mounted to the left and right of MLP)
Surround Back - Singe 8HT (placed on SubM + slave)


Which option would be better?

I will hopefully be placing my order with Jeff today. The time difference is a litle bit of a pain as i am fast asleep when he checks his mails and he is done for the day when I awake
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Now with the price of the 228HT reduced to just 40 dollars more than the Single - 8ht, would it be better to choose the 228 for surrounds with the bigger noesis for the front stage?
If this was asked two days ago or before I would not hesitate in recommending the S8 but with Yesterdays announcement of the new and improved 228HT @ the same price (+$40) I say go for the 228HT. Why not? It's going to be a fun and exciting speaker.
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If this was asked two days ago or before I would not hesitate in recommending the S8 but with Yesterdays announcement of the new and improved 228HT @ the same price (+$40) I say go for the 228HT. Why not? It's going to be a fun and exciting speaker.
1040$ is per speaker correct?

Does anyone know the original price for the 2009 t8's?
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I would love to compare these new 228s to my older models in home AB
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yes, per speaker.
$1200
https://web.archive.org/web/20090728...m/triple8.html

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Does anyone know the original price for the 2009 t8's?
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