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post #1 of 12 Old 08-17-2009, 08:47 PM - Thread Starter
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Hi guys,
I need some advice on putting together a 5.1 system for my apartment that will be relatively unobtrusive, but will sound great. I've always ogled at the Bose Lifestyle demos at the mall, but the price has always been "ridiculous". This will be my first attempt putting together a quality HT system.

Some points:
- Living room is about 13' x 13' x 8', with the left side open to the dining room/kitchen area.
- Usage is currently about 50% TV, 30% games, 20% movies. I will be listening to music once I get this system put together.
- I'd like to stick a 5.1 for the time being.
- I jumped on a Pioneer VSX-21TXH today (eBay, but am already having buyer's remorse - I may have spent too much on the receiver).
- I'd like to spend about $500 on the speakers + sub, but there is definitely wiggle room on the budget.

The only speakers I've seriously considered so far are all satellites, as our apartment is not very big. Large cabinets will not fly with the wife, so aesthetics is somewhat of a concern.

The three Energy satellite systems all seem to be great options.
- Energy Take Classic 5.0 (great deal right now with an Acoustech VK-12 sub)
- Energy RC Micro 5.1 (boxed with sub)
- Energy RC Mini's (which I missed out on a great deal on and may no longer be an option)

I also got a preview at the Mirage Omnisats at Magnolia yesterday - they got wife approval.

I'm going to find some time this week to have a listen at different speakers. But with a receiver on the way, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting antsy about getting speakers soon. Just doing my part in stimulating the economy.

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Can you get a 5.1 omnisat setup for $500? I'd think they'd be quite a bit more than that at Magnolia.

How bout the Omni 150's from Vanns with the Omni C150 center? $300 for the combo at Vanns and you can add your own subwoofer.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

The speakers might be a little too big for the wife, I'm not sure. Check the dimensions.


The Take Classic 5.0 is a good price right now. Newegg has a good combo deal with a Klipsch Sub-10 for $425.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.234268

Ooh, just saw the Take deal with VK-12, nice price! Huge sub!
http://www.acousticsounddesign.com/c...pid=1466&sc=61

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afrogt,
Looks like you are right in regards to the Omnisats - they run approximately $250 per speaker. The ones I saw at Magnolia are actually the Mirage OS3-SATs and it they're around the same price range. It looks like the Nanosats are closer to what I had in mind. I'm wondering if it's reasonable to purchase 3 sats for now, using one of as the center channel. Or am I better off getting a 5.1 system at a lower price point?

As for the Omni 150's, they look like they're about the size of a shoebox, which is a bit larger than I was hoping for. They certainly are a bargain though - and well reviewed.

Can anybody attest to the sound quality from any of the models discussed? Or possibly offer better options?
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Another good try would be The Speaker Company TSAT Bundles. The subs they offer are often compared to Energy ESW-8 and the ESW-10 models, and the speakers have gotten good reviews for their pricepoints.

http://www.thespeakercompany.com/Cat...?CategoryId=35
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Why do yo have buyers remorse with the receiver? Looks pretty sweet!

Love the look of the RC-mini in cherry. great priced on the bookshelf speakers. center is a little steep.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...rgy-rc-mini-cc

High quality 8" sub to top it off!
http://www.wwstereo.com/#/ecommerce/..._84__0_0_0_-1/

Other options for satellites
http://www.wwstereo.com/#/ecommerce/...0_8__0_0_0_-1/

And just add the above Energy sub.

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Why do yo have buyers remorse with the receiver? Looks pretty sweet!

It is pretty sweet, but I'm imagining that I could have spent a little less for an older receiver to have a little more for speakers.

With that said - I'm starting to lean towards shelling out extra for the OS3-SATs (either 3 of them ~$600, or 2 plus a center channel ~$800), leaving me without a sub still. This is starting to look like more money than I want to spend.
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I'd opt for the Energy RC-mini package in cherry. They have 4 speakers, one center and a 10" sub for $699. Unless the wife doesn't like the cherry color.

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Actually.. hehe.. I personally don't care for faux-wood grain. If the high gloss black were available, I would probably jump on it. In fact, I was watching the pair of black rc-mini's for $199, as well as the black center channel for $199 this past weekend on eBay. (I noticed you had mentioned them another thread. ) The seller said they had sold that pair and will be getting another pair in stock shortly. As for the center channel, I think I am SOL. Vann's may have it for $275 or so.

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I had the Omnisats and the Nanosats and the former were much better. They work quite well as a small speaker solution.

Would the wife go for a pair of slim V2 floorstanding speakers? It's a very good price but you'd have to like silver. The regular price for these had been about 500 each for a while.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...t-v2-fs-silver
I'd get the center for a total of $460 shipped just because it will be hard to find later:
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...t-v2-cc-silver

It's just an idea but if it flys I think they'd be a nicer compromise that would still look good in a small room. They'd break your budget considerably though - you could add a sub and surrounds later.
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ickysmits,
That's a very fair proposal. I will definitely take it under consideration.

As for the budget... they're "more what you'd call 'guidelines'" - Barbossa

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You might want to try going to different BB/Magnolia's in SD and look for closeouts on the omnisat V2's (almost identical to OS3). I bought (new and sealed) 4 V2's and a V2 CC for $350 about 10 days ago.

Bought and returned the Omni 150 5.0 package from Vann's. Great sound, but much larger than I preferred.

Bought and returned Take classics, lacked too much in midbass and high's were mediocre. Decent speakers for price, but the upgrade bug will hit you sooner than you think.

Bought and returned TSC's Tsat 5.0 package. Great sound for sat's. Nice crisp high's, but not much midbass just as with all satellite speakers. However, a decent sub can help alleviate this shortcoming.

+1 on the energy esw-V8 for $250. Bought from WWW.stereo and more than pleased with this for HT and sounds great with music!

My reccomendation would be as follows:

1. hunt for the mirage V2's. Rates about 9/10 on the HCF (Hot chick Factor) If that doesn't pan out then...

2. Buy the TSAT 5.0 from TSC. Good sound and rates 8/10 on the HCF.

Either way, get the ESW-V8 for 250 shipped. it's a no brainer.

Hope this helps, good luck
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Very helpful post, good stuff woofdawg!

I remember when Vanns was unloading those V2's for $75 each a while back.

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