Originally Posted by goonstopher
It sort of becomes like Fox news or MSNBC talking about the opposing viewpoint at some point. The truth of the opinion is highly suspect and the impact is lost.
I still would like to hear why diamonddelts has lost his love for the CW speakers. He proudly talked about how great they were and now apparently says they no longer are.
I still love MY CLS-215. And I am currently looking for an older pair of CLSC-215 speakers. I don't particularly care for the newer higher tuned XLS-215 speakers. They are not the same. Also I don't trust the specs of any of CV's new products produced from late 2009 on after the company was sold to another corporation.
I never cared for any of CV's single woofer models which is what you were asking about. The singled woofer models can sound a bit strained at high volumes which is often what the CV haters of their past models complain of when they talk about a "bloated" bass sound. The dual 15" models have much smoother bass which sounds relaxed and controlled at both mid and high volume levels.
I only suggested the Sho-10's because you were coming from high spl producing speakers such as the JTR's. So I felt the Sho 10's would give you a likewise sound and spl levels for a much cheaper price.
The CLSC and CLS-215 speakers were for people who wanted lower tuned speakers that do not have to be run with subwoofers at all times. At least for common listeners, not for the 10hz bass nuts at forums such as this. Now the tradeoff was they do not have true horns so they don't get as loud as speakers with true high compression drivers such as JTR, Seaton, CHT, and JBL.
These speakers were in a rare middle ground. They have attributes of pro speakers like my pro JBL's(large drivers, efficient) however they were tuned lower which you don't see with many large pro speakers which are tuned down to 40-60hz and are designed to be used with large higher tuned subs for superior midbass.
These speakers also contain soft dome tweeters which are great for music however they do limit max spl levels during HT which I "thought" might disappoint a former JTR owner.
I love having CLS-215 speakers because they have attributes of both pro speakers and home speaker genres but they don't completely fit in either world. However the new XLS-215 speakers are tuned much higher which in my opinion takes away the one advantage of their previous 215 models and places them amongst higher, tuned pro speakers which they can not match in terms of max output.
If I someone wants higher tuned dual 15" speakers that are tuned higher for better midbass then there is no reason not to go with JBL, Peavey, or Mackie. Which still sound great with music and will crush the XLS-215 in max spl levels. I am not a fan of what CV has done with their latest models hence why I rarely suggest them.
As for me I have six CV 215 speakers. And if I can find another deal on another pair of CLSC-215 or CLS-215 speakers I will puchase a fourth set. However my current 6.1 setup performs great for music and very "good" for HT with their inherent spl limitations.