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post #1 of 10 Old 10-18-2009, 08:42 PM - Thread Starter
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I have increased and enjoyed my blu ray collection, buy my receiver is old and does not have support for Dolby True HD, DTS-HD Master Audio and PCM. So I'm thinking about getting a new one.

But, my front speakers are really bad. I don't see much sense in buying a new receiver without also changing my speakers, but sadly I don't have enough money to buy both right now.

On the other hand, I often have to watch my movies with headphones (at least my headphones are good). This way an option would be buying just the receiver right now, and after some time the speakers.

So, I'd like to ask to the people who has a capable receiver and usually use headphones: do you guys notice a higher sound quality when comparing the older formats (Dolby Digital and DTS) with the new ones (Dolby True HD, DTS-HD Master Audio and PCM), when listening with headphones?

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... do you guys notice a higher sound quality when comparing the older formats (Dolby Digital and DTS) with the new ones (Dolby True HD, DTS-HD Master Audio and PCM), when listening with headphones?

No. I haven't found much difference between the various surround formats when they're downgraded to 2-channel stereo and played through my headphones.

However I do believe that Dolby Headphone is an amazing technology, and I have no doubt that the inventor must have sold his soul to the devil in order to unlock the secrets of immersive headphone audio. There's a HUGE difference between multi-channel audio simply played through 2-channels and the simulated surround offered by Dolby Headphone.

Whatever receiver you decide on, do buy one with Dolby Headphone.

Also many Yamaha receivers have their own proprietary surround headphone technology, called Silent Cinema. I haven't heard it so I can't offer an opinion.

I rock a pair of Sennheiser HD595 through my Harmon Kardon AVR-254 (with Dolby Headphone).
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Thanks G-Bull, valuable information and tips.

Let me ask you another thing: and what about noticing difference when listening with speakers?

I'am afraid of spenting a lot of money "just" to have these new audio formats and end up not noticing much difference. I believe there are movies and movies, I mean, I think that, with some movies, a DTS-HD Master Audio track may not be so much better then the conventional DTS track, but I'm talking about the really good ones here.
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The newer audio formats are 7.1 channels, and the older ones are 5.1 channels. And it's not all that necessary for your receiver to be able to decode the 7.1 channels if your player can decode them and send the decoded 7.1 PCM to the receiver via HDMI.

I can't make the comparison with speakers because although I do have a 7.1 channel receiver, I only use 5 speakers. But I do use headphones fairly often, and that fact is the reason I bought a receiver with Dolby Headphone.

Plug your headphones into your computer and head over to Dolby's website for a demo of Dolby Headphone:
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/technology/headphone.html
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So, I'd like to ask to the people who has a capable receiver and usually use headphones: do you guys notice a higher sound quality when comparing the older formats (Dolby Digital and DTS) with the new ones (Dolby True HD, DTS-HD Master Audio and PCM), when listening with headphones?

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Depends on how good the headphones are.. I have a pair of UE-10s and there is a noticeable difference between DD and True HD/DTS-HD.
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Depends on how good the headphones are.. I have a pair of UE-10s and there is a noticeable difference between DD and True HD/DTS-HD.

Do you run those with a separate headphone amp?
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I am also interested in whether people use headphone amps. I have the Audio Technica AD700's and a Denon receiver, and it doesn't seem like I am getting enough power. Are any receivers better than the others for provided solid headphone power?
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I used a ear max pro tube amp for my headphones if this helps
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I used a ear max pro tube amp for my headphones if this helps

Well, I am on a little bit more of a budget than that, although I am sure it is great. I was thinking more along the line of the x-Can (or maybe even cheaper), but wondered if some mid-range receivers had good output on their own.
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Well, I am on a little bit more of a budget than that, although I am sure it is great. I was thinking more along the line of the x-Can (or maybe even cheaper), but wondered if some mid-range receivers had good output on their own.

another one I thought of was a Xin amp.. Been awhile since I have been on his site.
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