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I cannot for the life of me find any info on what look to be 60's or 70's floor speakers with a nameplate of "Romik". There is a single 6 to 8 inch speaker on the top and a very open area underneath. They are 31" high x 21.5" wide x 12" deep. The one speaker has a "Made in Holland" sticker on the magnet. I picked there up for free but was unable to ask any questions they were just set outside to be picked up. The grill material is very similar to the old Bose 901's . Thet are very solid and quite heavy. Any info on these would be great as i have searched and searched and yes that includes just about every search engine i could find. Im almost wondering if they are one offs but they seem way to well made. Thanks for helping!
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Wow 34 views and nothing! At least im not nuts about not being able to find any info on these.
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Wow 34 views and nothing! At least im not nuts about not being able to find any info on these.

Post a couple photos, maybe someone will recognize them.

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Here are pics minus the cigarette colored nasty yellow 60's/70's grill carpet. Beautiful cabinets Don't know what the opening is for as the speaker area sealed but im thinking 10" woofer might fit. Again thanks to all who try to figure this out I appreciate it!
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O well I guess I'll toss em up to homemade. I dont know who deletes these things but feel free!
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That is some weird looking speaker.

Do they sound any good?

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Well I have always been searching the INTERNET for my fathers pen name or company name and finally (it took me a while) someone is asking about it!
Well, I am the son of Robert Mikulyak Sr. who worked for Bell Laboratories in Murray Hill, NJ. He designed, developed, built and sold many pairs of these horn load design speakers. And yes, NOW is the time in years that the drivers are finally dieing. I have been searching for drivers that work in these cabinets for many years. I have learned a little from him about what to look for and how to build these cabinets. But so far, there haven't been any one the market that can reproduce and handle the pressure of the horn that is in this cabinet. I am still searching and lately have had more time to learn about these cabinets. My father is getting old and is now in assisted living. While cleaning out our family residence for the past 60 years, I still have yet to come across his notes on this design. I only have a few concepts and formulas to go by at this time.
But I will try to keep you up to date on these and will prove to you I am whom I say I am by posting a picture of the sales brochure as soon as I can.

Keep watching . . . .
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Well I have always been searching the INTERNET for my fathers pen name or company name and finally (it took me a while) someone is asking about it!
Well, I am the son of Robert Mikulyak Sr. who worked for Bell Laboratories in Murray Hill, NJ. He designed, developed, built and sold many pairs of these horn load design speakers. And yes, NOW is the time in years that the drivers are finally dieing. I have been searching for drivers that work in these cabinets for many years. I have learned a little from him about what to look for and how to build these cabinets. But so far, there haven't been any one the market that can reproduce and handle the pressure of the horn that is in this cabinet. I am still searching and lately have had more time to learn about these cabinets. My father is getting old and is now in assisted living. While cleaning out our family residence for the past 60 years, I still have yet to come across his notes on this design. I only have a few concepts and formulas to go by at this time.
But I will try to keep you up to date on these and will prove to you I am whom I say I am by posting a picture of the sales brochure as soon as I can.

Keep watching . . . .
good evening, just picked up a pair of these today have not tried them yet or looked inside to see what makes them tick.
cant wait to dig in! would love some more info if anyone has any.
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Well I have always been searching the INTERNET for my fathers pen name or company name and finally (it took me a while) someone is asking about it!
Well, I am the son of Robert Mikulyak Sr. who worked for Bell Laboratories in Murray Hill, NJ. He designed, developed, built and sold many pairs of these horn load design speakers. And yes, NOW is the time in years that the drivers are finally dieing. I have been searching for drivers that work in these cabinets for many years. I have learned a little from him about what to look for and how to build these cabinets. But so far, there haven't been any one the market that can reproduce and handle the pressure of the horn that is in this cabinet. I am still searching and lately have had more time to learn about these cabinets. My father is getting old and is now in assisted living. While cleaning out our family residence for the past 60 years, I still have yet to come across his notes on this design. I only have a few concepts and formulas to go by at this time.
But I will try to keep you up to date on these and will prove to you I am whom I say I am by posting a picture of the sales brochure as soon as I can.

Keep watching . . . .
You are in luck. I have 2 AD 4877M's brand new and in the boxes.
I am too busy to build anything for them (other than maybe and open baffle).

If you are interested in them please contact me.

Very interesting story about your father. I hope you can find his notes.

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steve I would be interested in your drivers, I think I have the other pair of Romiks on the planet,
please let me know
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But so far, there haven't been any one the market that can reproduce and handle the pressure of the horn that is in this cabinet.
What horn? Do you mean the Karlson slot with a little extra on top?

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What horn? Do you mean the Karlson slot with a little extra on top?
Well this is the first time in a long time I have heard the slot referred to as the Karlson Slot! I forgot all about this! Well, I must admit, I need to research more about each of the components that make this speaker work! I have been searching the Internet for a long time and have only recently found anything about the horn load. So some time soon, I will have to pick all your brains to piece together the inner workings so we can determine if there is a driver out there that can be a direct replacement.

So hold on and keep looking back here for updates. Due to life in general, it will take me some time to reply with anything that I know to aid in the search for drivers.

Meanwhile, I would like to try to collect all the names of people who have these speakers and what they know about them and the ones they own in general. Even though I am the son of the maker, they are a half mystery to me.

So keep posting!
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I cannot for the life of me find any info on what look to be 60's or 70's floor speakers with a nameplate of "Romik". There is a single 6 to 8 inch speaker on the top and a very open area underneath. They are 31" high x 21.5" wide x 12" deep. The one speaker has a "Made in Holland" sticker on the magnet. I picked there up for free but was unable to ask any questions they were just set outside to be picked up. The grill material is very similar to the old Bose 901's . Thet are very solid and quite heavy. Any info on these would be great as i have searched and searched and yes that includes just about every search engine i could find. Im almost wondering if they are one offs but they seem way to well made. Thanks for helping!
They were from the 50s, 60s. My dad built them and they are rare. The speakers were Norelco and rated at 10 watts. The cab is efficient (20%) compared to 5 for a tuned port. The exponential horn was the secret, flat response and only needed 4 watts to equal other cabs. I a/b,d them.
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Hey Chamberspin3, thanks for the "naked" Romik photos! This is my first post here and I'd like to put new grill cloth on the pair of Romik speakers that I just purchased on Friday, can you give me some helpful pointers on removing the old cloth (do you know if it's possible to remove the baffler somehow?) and how it might be best to replace it with new? I suppose I'll try to put some low profile feet on mine to prevent the fraying of the new grill cloth due to it rubbing the floor whenever you go to move them. Based on your photos, it looks like yours have some sort of feet raising them up off the floor. If you could post a couple pics of the bottom of your cabinets it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Chamberspins3, I was wondering if you think the feet on yours look original? I know of a couple other pair that don't have feet but it makes so much sense to have them that I was thinking they probably are original. So far I love these in two channel applications and would LOVE to find another pair for a second system in my home. They sound really good to my ears, particularly with female vocals, jazz and even rock, if it's well produced like much of Steely Dan/Donald Fagan and Dire Straits/Mark Knopfler stuff. I'm a sucker for "retro", particularly mid century modern so that could be part of their appeal. It's so cool to be part of a forum with the inventor's sons participating too!
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I really love listening to music with these speakers. They work well as fronts too and sound good but they really excel at two channel listening, IMO. I'd love to find another pair and play with two pairs either together or in two separate, vintage setups.
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can you give me some helpful pointers on removing the old cloth (do you know if it's possible to remove the baffler somehow?) and how it might be best to replace it with new?
Please don't try to remove the baffle! It is part of the working speaker. If you do you will just destroy a piece of history. As far as the grill cloth goes, I should have some of the original cloth available. Taking the speaker apart is not going to be easy. It was glued together and routered at the edges to develop the clean look. I have never tried to remove any of the sides but keep focus on this forum and I will try to post some method of removing the end caps. I may also need to discuss this with my father to see if there is a way or if it is glued for good.

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Post a couple photos, maybe someone will recognize them.

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Please don't try to remove the baffle! It is part of the working speaker. If you do you will just destroy a piece of history. As far as the grill cloth goes, I should have some of the original cloth available. Taking the speaker apart is not going to be easy. It was glued together and routered at the edges to develop the clean look. I have never tried to remove any of the sides but keep focus on this forum and I will try to post some method of removing the end caps. I may also need to discuss this with my father to see if there is a way or if it is glued for good.

Robert
Thanks Robert, I appreciate the input and the grill cloth offer, very generous! I'd leave them alone completely, if there wasn't a fair sized tear in the one grill cloth. I'm guessing it's going to be quite a challenge removing and replacing the old grill cloth without being able to remove the baffle but would happily live with the tear before I destroy the cabinet, that's for sure!


Please tell your father that there are a few of us (two of my friends have Romik speakers as well) who think what he did with his cabinet work to make those 9" Norelco drivers sing is nothing less than spectacular! The Norelcos are a very good full range driver but would not put out that kind of sound in any standard cabinet, I'm sure. I will continue to keep my eye out for as many of these interesting and great sounding speakers as I can find, they need to be preserved, in my opinion, as I feel they are both historically significant and sonically superior to SO many other speakers I've heard.


Thanks again for the info and assistance, it is greatly appreciated.
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Hey Knucklehead, thanks for the link, I'd be all over them except that's the pair I bought recently! I really appreciate the thought nonetheless.
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Hey Knucklehead, thanks for the link, I'd be all over them except that's the pair I bought recently! I really appreciate the thought nonetheless.
Then you've probably read things like this from 1994?

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ch/NqWA_HRq7As

According to the last post this speaker was used by the bass guitarist with The Beach Boys. Find that video and maybe you'll see a closeup or two of this speaker.

I've always been interested in old and unusual speakers which is why I did a search on these.

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Thanks for the latest link. I too am attracted to unusual vintage speaker designs, especially the ones that sound good! I've never owned a Karlson cabinet so I can't speak to its sonic qualities or capabilities. I've seen detailed plans in vintage literature for building a Karlson enclosure but, being a wood butcher of sorts, never thought of trying that.
The Romik speakers would be no less difficult to make, probably more so, if I had to guess. I've never seen any test data on the Romik speakers but as good as they sound, I'm guessing they sport some pretty decent numbers.
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" As far as the grill cloth goes, I should have some of the original cloth available. Taking the speaker apart is not going to be easy. It was glued together and routered at the edges to develop the clean look. "

To all who are reading this thread, I am going to visit my father soon and will be checking on how this box was assembled. Keep watching this thread and I will pass as much information as I can to all.
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And to all who read this post, I would like to see if I could find a pair or even one that someone would like to get rid of. I cannot pay much for them, but my plan is to "reverse engineer" a cabinet to try to reproduce and understand them better. This way I can help those who need to take them apart to place new grill cloth and even keep researching drivers that will work. I also would like to make an end table for my father in the apartment he is in.
The pair I have now are the originals and I do not want to take these apart.
Hope someone is out there who can help.
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Well this is the first time in a long time I have heard the slot referred to as the Karlson Slot!
Where the Karlson is concerned it was called the Karlson Coupler. The inventor said it was a horn, probably due to the shape that sort of resembled a horn, but it wasn't. It was a series tuned dual reflex band pass. A more or less conventional reflex box fired both the direct radiation from the cone and radiation from a port into the second front chamber, which had an exponentially shaped shaped port on its front. The Romik appears to be a conventional bass reflex with a funky looking port, but you'd have to see inside to be sure.
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Hi Bill (and others) It is unfortunate that my father has lost a lot of his memory by now. I have drawings of the internals of many of the designs he had been working on those many years ago. This is not a bass reflex whatsoever. It is a horn with approximately 12 ft of folded horn inside and the Karlson Slot is to unload the bass smoothly. If the slot was square, like many enthusiasts start out creating, the bass will have a sharp dip or peak in the curve as the speaker is swept from high to low. The second reason why a Karlson Slot is used is to couple 2 or more speakers together. There is a "sweet spot" where the distance of the two cabinets apart will aid each other in generating a coupled harmonic of the low frequency sought. In other words, the cabinet will produce down to 39 Hz (I think) cleanly. If 2 cabinets are sitting approximately 15 to 16 ft, you should hear the bass extend down to 35 Hz. If you have 4 speakers, all separated by 18 to 19 ft, you should hear the bass drop down to 30 Hz. This is an anomaly of the horn load design. But there is a down side. If you were able to find a driver that is able to handle a horn effectively, the lower the frequency, the much longer larger the box becomes. In effect, if this driver was used in a newly created box with the same methods used, and you wish to reduce the frequency to half what it can do now, the box becomes 4 times larger. (Thus the name of an exponential horn.) Horn loads are also not to be used with power. Too much power will start reproducing mechanical deficiencies of the driver since it cannot effectively "drive" the horn.

So I am still working on reverse engineering these boxes and researching the notes from my father. So far I am not any closer to understanding all this in full.

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