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post #541 of 561 Old 10-03-2015, 10:00 PM
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For reference purposes: there are a few other BIC subs that are within the performance range of those two.

Acoustech H-100II:

http://www.bicamerica.com/showpage.p...e=8&spkrID=126

Venturi V1220:

http://www.bicamerica.com/showpage.p...pe=8&spkrID=44

RtR Eviction RtR-EV1200:

http://www.bicamerica.com/showpage.p...e=3&spkrID=119

Formula F-12:

http://www.bicamerica.com/showpage.p...pe=8&spkrID=84
Had a chance to see & hear the Acoustech H-100II sub yesterday at the store so I think that's the one am getting it's also cheaper than the PL200. While there I saw the Adatto 52si white in color which I thought would improve on the WAF factor. My question is would I be making a mistake getting the adattos instead of two DV62si for surrounds. The 62s are a bit big to mount on my wall so I would have them on stands.
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Had a chance to see & hear the Acoustech H-100II sub yesterday at the store so I think that's the one am getting it's also cheaper than the PL200. While there I saw the Adatto 52si white in color which I thought would improve on the WAF factor. My question is would I be making a mistake getting the adattos instead of two DV62si for surrounds. The 62s are a bit big to mount on my wall so I would have them on stands.
I can't comment on the Adattos as I've never heard them, but I can comment on wall mounting the 62s. Mine (front L/R) are wall mounted, anchored only in the drywall and not in any studs. The studs were not within the range of where I wanted them located, so I found these items and they worked well for me.

I used Aeon brand mounts (link) that are more than capable of supporting this speaker. I was quite impressed with these things, especially given the price. They are heavy duty. To anchor them in the drywall, I used Toggler SnapSkru anchors (link). They are rated to hold 65 pounds each (which might be a bit of an exaggeration) and I used four on each mount with an over sized screw.

I had to pre-drill four holes in the back of each speaker (above the crossover/connection posts) to attach the mounting plate. If you go this route, I would use the biggest screws you can fit through the holes in the plate in order to get the most "bite" on the speaker's cabinet.

Short of someone hanging from them or falling onto them, they are solid as a rock. I like that the mounts can easily be tilted up/down as well as right/left. The 62s will protrude from the wall as the mounts are roughly 6" deep, plus the depth of the speaker.
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I can't comment on the Adattos as I've never heard them, but I can comment on wall mounting the 62s. Mine (front L/R) are wall mounted, anchored only in the drywall and not in any studs. The studs were not within the range of where I wanted them located, so I found these items and they worked well for me.

I used Aeon brand mounts (link) that are more than capable of supporting this speaker. I was quite impressed with these things, especially given the price. They are heavy duty. To anchor them in the drywall, I used Toggler SnapSkru anchors (link). They are rated to hold 65 pounds each (which might be a bit of an exaggeration) and I used four on each mount with an over sized screw.

I had to pre-drill four holes in the back of each speaker (above the crossover/connection posts) to attach the mounting plate. If you go this route, I would use the biggest screws you can fit through the holes in the plate in order to get the most "bite" on the speaker's cabinet.

Short of someone hanging from them or falling onto them, they are solid as a rock. I like that the mounts can easily be tilted up/down as well as right/left. The 62s will protrude from the wall as the mounts are roughly 6" deep, plus the depth of the speaker.
@MusicPhan thanks a lot for your advice.
I already have a pair of Dv62si which are mounted on stands serving as L/R.
My room is not large (13'*11')
Considering budget & WAF am getting
~ Dv62si (Front L/R)
~ Dv52CLR (Centre)
~ Adatto 52si(Surrounds)
~ Acoustech H-100 (subwoofer)
Will get the receiver last.
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@MusicPhan thanks a lot for your advice.
I already have a pair of Dv62si which are mounted on stands serving as L/R.
My room is not large (13'*11')
Considering budget & WAF am getting
~ Dv62si (Front L/R)
~ Dv52CLR (Centre)
~ Adatto 52si(Surrounds)
~ Acoustech H-100 (subwoofer)
Will get the receiver last.
That sounds like a nice setup. Currently, my L/R surrounds and ceiling Atmos speakers are Onkyo HTIB speakers. The L/R surrounds were previously my fronts, before I upgraded the fronts to DV62si. They sound pretty good as surrounds. The ceiling ones are fairly low-end. I think they have a single 3-1/2" driver in them. They'll work for now, until I can ask for upgrades for Christmas or my B-Day. I'm thinking the Adattos on the ceiling, and perhaps for the L/R surrounds as well, would be a good match.

What kind of receivers are you considering?
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Was considering
Denon X2000 or Yamaha 375.
While at the speaker shop I saw an Onkyo TX-SR805 then decided to look it up here at AVS. Was surprised to see its a very good and very very popular receiver even if it's seven yrs old. Only problem they had one unit and someone had already paid for it.
So am now looking at used high end receivers as they stock them. By the way am not in US.
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Was considering
Denon X2000 or Yamaha 375.
While at the speaker shop I saw an Onkyo TX-SR805 then decided to look it up here at AVS. Was surprised to see its a very good and very very popular receiver even if it's seven yrs old. Only problem they had one unit and someone had already paid for it.
So am now looking at used high end receivers as they stock them. By the way am not in US.
I have no experience with Denon or Yamaha, but I've been more than satisfied with the two Onkyo receivers I've had. First one was a HTIB 7.1 setup. It wasn't anything special, but the sound was great for an entry level unit. Second and current one is the TX-NR636, configured in 5.1.2 Atmos configuration. Paired with my new BICs, I think it sounds amazing. I'm sold on Onkyo. I read that some people have had HDMI problems with their units, but knock on wood mine have been solid as a rock.
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Got the DV-52CLR centre yesterday. At least the front stage is nearly done
Not the best pics, phone seems to add lots of red, will try and take clearer ones later. Now Adattos 52 for rear, PL100 sub and receiver and am done.



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Hope these are a bit clear. Just a phone camera



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Playing about with the placement. This looks good aesthetically but sound wise is the center is too low?


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Playing about with the placement. This looks good aesthetically but sound wise is the center is too low?

I would say yes, its too low. The ideal place would be on top of the cabinet, pulled all the way to the front. If you have it against the wall as shown in the previous pics, the sound will reflect off the top of the cabinet and not sound as good.

If you want to keep it in the cabinet for aesthetic reasons, make sure you find something to tilt the front of the speaker up to point it more at the listening position......and not at your knees. I have a similar setup and use a couple of these under the front of the speaker:

https://www.westfloridacomponents.co...m+X+9.6mm.html

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Thought the center speaker should be below the tv as much as possible
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Thought the center speaker should be below the tv as much as possible
Theoretically, the center channel should be dead smack in the middle of the TV, since thats where the voices should be coming from. That wont work in anyones setup (unless you have a sound passing screen with a speaker behind it), so we try to find the location closest to it, typically just above or just below the screen.
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Think I found a compromise . Put the speaker on top of the stand pulled out a bit from the previous position, then lifted the front end a bit. That makes the ports at the back clear and the sound directed upwards towards the ears. Compromises here & there
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Yes. I'm still doing the DV62si mods and you are correct about the sub. A sub cannot balance the overall response of a speaker. What you end up with is an unbalanced sound with a good bump at the bottom. It's not necessary but I run a sub with my BICs but that is only to reinforce the lowest range. This setup gives better sound than floorstanders without physically dominating the room. The sub is hidden and people only see the BICs (which I have wall mounted) and are blown away by the fullness. It's a live performance sound.
I can, without reservation, recommend Dave's DV62si modification. While the stock speakers have a bright, clear sound, they also (for me, at least) make for a harsh, tiring listening experience. Dave's modded crossovers absolutely transformed the DV62sis, evening out their response and gifting them with an incredible smoothness, while still retaining the crisp, though now tamed, highs. I wish I had the acoustics knowledge to know the exact descriptive terminology to use, but the word that comes to mind when I listen to them is, "creamy".
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I love my DV64s because they're so cheap I can mod them however I want and it doesn't matter if I destroy them.

Anyway, after much tweaking (I closed up the PR cutouts and ran them sealed for a bit. Terrible.) I remembered the one thing I've never tried: weights. I figured I should keep things classy so I hotglued two 1/4" nuts right in the rear center of the spider on each radiator. I have to admit this quick and dirty mod makes these speakers sound better than ever before. My room is a mid-bass blackhole and this helped immeasurably. It also resulted in the flattest PEQ correction YPAO has ever made.

Every room is different of course, but if anyone else feels they are lacking a little punch, getting all arts & crafty with your PRs might help.
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I can, without reservation, recommend Dave's DV62si modification. While the stock speakers have a bright, clear sound, they also (for me, at least) make for a harsh, tiring listening experience. Dave's modded crossovers absolutely transformed the DV62sis, evening out their response and gifting them with an incredible smoothness, while still retaining the crisp, though now tamed, highs. I wish I had the acoustics knowledge to know the exact descriptive terminology to use, but the word that comes to mind when I listen to them is, "creamy".

I also feel the speakers are a bit bright. Am not in the US so how can I do the modification.
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My experience - I've owned a nice Denon 2ch amplifier and Clements 207di monitors for years. These are supposedly excellent bookshelf speakers. I'm in the process of setting up a home theater so I ordered a DV62CLR-S based on reviews here and elsewhere. My initial impression was that it was very bright, somewhat harsh and missing bass, but so much more detailed than the Clements that I ordered two more and two DV64's.

I have about 40 hours on the DV62CLR-S with maybe 20 hours of bass heavy music at relatively high volumes (50-60 watts). It is still bright, but I think some of the harshness has dissipated and the mid-bass is better. The rear ports seem to make the bass more sensitive to speaker position than front ported speakers. I'm hoping that the DV64's will provide better bass.

Overall this speaker is amazing for the price. I'm planning on pairing the BIC's with two SVS PB-1000 subs I ordered from audiogon.
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My experience - I've owned a nice Denon 2ch amplifier and Clements 207di monitors for years. These are supposedly excellent bookshelf speakers. I'm in the process of setting up a home theater so I ordered a DV62CLR-S based on reviews here and elsewhere. My initial impression was that it was very bright, somewhat harsh and missing bass, but so much more detailed than the Clements that I ordered two more and two DV64's.

I have about 40 hours on the DV62CLR-S with maybe 20 hours of bass heavy music at relatively high volumes (50-60 watts). It is still bright, but I think some of the harshness has dissipated and the mid-bass is better. The rear ports seem to make the bass more sensitive to speaker position than front ported speakers. I'm hoping that the DV64's will provide better bass.

Overall this speaker is amazing for the price. I'm planning on pairing the BIC's with two SVS PB-1000 subs I ordered from audiogon.
Yep. DV62's have better/lower bass response, right out of the box. Looking forward to breaking them in a bit.
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I'll update my recommendation - these speakers sound great with AVR correction/equalization. They are bright and also need some boost in the mid-bass range. YPAO shows this clearly, less so for the DV64's as compared with the DV62CLR-S, but the correction is still there. YPAO:flat sounds so much better than uncorrected.
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