Originally Posted by Dave1027
Also about the graphs I posted. I clearly stated those graphs are NOT the actual response of the speakers and that they are affected by microphone and sound card response. The comparison is still valid though. To tell you the truth, the graphs don't really tell the story. The actual difference in tonal balance and sound quality during listening is night and day. Much more drastic than those graphs show. I was surprised when they didn't show a whole lot of difference.
Tonal balance can be fine tuned and corrected with an EQ far more quickly and likely with a better result. Take the MCACC EQ in my Pioneer receiver. I managed to not only get a marvelous sound out of the BIC Venturi speakers but also managed to sound-match them to a pair of Optimus LX-5 II speakers.
The pans from around the room are fantastic. The most recent awesome experience with panning was with the movie "Drag Me To Hell" in the "seance" scene where the camera spins around to the different faces at the table. The VOICES spin around the different speakers! It's a fantastic surround demo to test how well your system's speakers are matched. If the voice were to pan from the rear right to the front right and sound "different", you would spot it right away, mostly because it's the human voice where human hearing is mostly sensitively tuned.
After successfully matching different brands of speakers, I'm of the opinion that speakers should be matched up based on the material the drivers are made of. The BIC Venturi's and Optimus LX-5 II's are all polypropylene drivers. Yes, there was some EQ work that needed to be done but afterwards the results were very well blended.
I'm beyond satisfied with the results and I'm convinced that (unless I'm upgrading to a high powered amp), the Ed Frias passive crossover wasn't going to add anything to the sound quality.
Now, "IF" I were to consider a strong amplifier of 125-watts+ of clean power, then I would consider the Ed Frias crossover ONLY if the inductors are of superior quality to the BIC inductors. That is the ONLY reason to change out crossover components. Additional wattage causes inductors to drift off of their intended frequency as well as distort the sound.
As higher power amps are used, you will have better sound and less distortion from having used superior parts in passive crossovers. Now, I'm not saying Ed Frias' crossover is without use! But we need to remember, for most standard A/V receivers using 50-watt amps (or less) for each channel, it's simply not making an audible difference to use the Ed Frias crossover over the stock EQ when applying the digital equalizer for taste.
So, please, don't take my posts personally. I very nearly bought speakers from Ed Frias but then after doing additional research and realizing my amplifier of choice simply wasn't using much wattage, I realized that the crossover wasn't going to be an issue for me. Right now these speakers are sounding spectacular for me and I have no complaints at all.
For $99 each, these are beyond a great buy. And to think this speaker and it's design have gone unchanged for 10 YEARS! That tells you that BIC knows it has a speaker of such quality that it's virtually impossible to re-engineer a new design that tops it for the money. The reason these can sound so great yet cost so little is probably because it's a design that's been unchanged for 10 years. BIC likely has widdled the production costs of these down to the point where they can produce them as designed for next to nothing, but to our gain, they are cheap and sound great. Most other manufacturers keep changing designs, altering parts to skirt costs and end up producing WORSE speakers today than 10 years ago, (see Infinity & Polk who cut quality to reduce costs) while the BIC Venturi lineup are the same quality as the time they were heralded by many reviewers 10 years ago.
I highly recommend people risk the tiny $99 cost for the DV62CLR-S and $150 for a pair of DV62si bookshelves. They are fantastic.
My 3 vertically mounted DV62CLR-S speakers setup in an MTM array to limit vertical tweeter dispersion along with my choice of Optimus LX-5 II's with their dipole tweeter for the rears have ended up FAR surpassing anything I hear at the local theater or on sale at the local Frys electronics store.