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post #1 of 50 Old 12-26-2009, 12:32 PM - Thread Starter
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i just got a pair of polk monitor 40s for my bedroom system. these are relatively large bookshelf speakers with no pre-drilled hole for traditional mounting. i currently have nowhere to put them so i've been looking at speaker stands, but all stands large enough to accommodate these speakers are very expensive. i then thought, why does something need to be called a speaker stand to function as one? so i did a little exploring and my local ikea has a couple different bar stools that i thought would make decent speaker stands. but i just want to know if there is something i am missing here, that would make this a bad idea? no need to click all the links but they are there if you're curious, to give you an idea.

here are the ones i am considering:

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00044301

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90156285

some shorter options:

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70156286

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90135641

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/24286205

extremely cheap:

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/60118186

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10135659
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As long as they hold your speakers, I ain't got a problem with you using them. Have at it, we got to do what we got to do. Just paint em black...
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yea i was thinking about painting them too might just be easier to buy one of the black ones. what is a more typical height for bookshelf speakers? ~30 inches or ~18 inches? keeping in mind the speakers are 16 inches tall.
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yea i was thinking about painting them too might just be easier to buy one of the black ones. what is a more typical height for bookshelf speakers? ~30 inches or ~18 inches? keeping in mind the speakers are 16 inches tall.

tweeters at ear level in listening position.

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thanks. looks like ~30 inches will be closer to achieving that than ~18.
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Hell, I think it is a good idea, for whatever that is worth. And it will not break the bank, which is even better! Some of these speaker stands are outrageous price wise for what you get.
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I think Cerwin Vega used to offer bar stools as an option......


Seriously, should work fine.
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i then thought, why does something need to be called a speaker stand to function as one? so i did a little exploring and my local ikea has a couple different bar stools that i thought would make decent speaker stands. but i just want to know if there is something i am missing here, that would make this a bad idea? no need to click all the links but they are there if you're curious, to give you an idea.

There should be no issues... just as long as you align the speaker with the front edge of the bar stool seat. You do not want sound reflecting off the top of the seat.

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concrete blocks make nice stands, too. You can paint them to look decent . . .
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I bought a couple of these saddle stools back in October from Namco as overflow seating in our game room. They are 24" high, but the seat is lightly concave ~ 5/8".
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Are there any pictures of what people are using to raise the hight of their speakers? I want to see the brick idea and the bucket.

Spending $2k on a set of 5.1 speakers just to sit them on a painted brick seems a little weird to me.

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I do not have pictures, but my Rockets use a "stand" that is integrated into the speaker. In fact, it's seamless, and undetectable by the human eye. It's called a "tower" speaker

Why anyone buys a bookshelf to put on expensive stands is beyond me... you're better off buying the tower version for the same price as monitor+stand. And the alternatives listed here for stands are not that great.

I agree with Bower... spending a lot on a speaker system, and then putting them on cheap looking stands, does not seem right.

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Are there any pictures of what people are using to raise the hight of their speakers? I want to see the brick idea and the bucket.

Spending $2k on a set of 5.1 speakers just to sit them on a painted brick seems a little weird to me.

I raised my side surround towers to get the tweeters as high as my mains by using stools I purchased from Lowes and then surrounded them with 12" granite tiles for about $15 a piece.
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today i bought the oddvar 30inch wood bar stools from ikea and painted them black, they look good for surrounds.
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today i bought the oddvar 30inch wood bar stools from ikea and painted them black, they look good for surrounds.

i picked those up last night, and will be painting them black as well.
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I used inexpensive bar stools as speaker stands for years before I bought floor standers. .....a good cheap alternative IMO.

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I do not have pictures, but my Rockets use a "stand" that is integrated into the speaker. In fact, it's seamless, and undetectable by the human eye. It's called a "tower" speaker

Why anyone buys a bookshelf to put on expensive stands is beyond me... you're better off buying the tower version for the same price as monitor+stand. And the alternatives listed here for stands are not that great.

I agree with Bower... spending a lot on a speaker system, and then putting them on cheap looking stands, does not seem right.

-T

the cheapest monitor 50 towers in black i could find were 130 dollars a piece. at 260, that would be 130 dollars more than i spent on the bookshelf speakers. i spent 27 dollars on the bar stools.

also, if it is true that tweeter should be ear level for best results, the bookshelfs on the stool will actually be at a better listening level than a 35 inch tall tower where the tweeter is only 25 inches high.

at the end of the day, 100 bucks is a lot to someone in my position.
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i picked those up last night, and will be painting them black as well.

thanks for the tip.
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Here's an idea for the TV

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I made these from mdf, 2" pvc and 3/8" threaded rod and paint. The paint was the most expensive item. The top plate is 48" high (for my surrounds). I have holes for the wire and will fill with sand once I decide this is what I want my height to be.
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I made these from mdf, 2" pvc and 3/8" threaded rod and paint. The paint was the most expensive item. The top plate is 48" high (for my surrounds). I have holes for the wire and will fill with sand once I decide this is what I want my height to be.

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I made these from mdf, 2" pvc and 3/8" threaded rod and paint. The paint was the most expensive item. The top plate is 48" high (for my surrounds). I have holes for the wire and will fill with sand once I decide this is what I want my height to be.

Need a little cable management? I used these raceways from Fry's. They stick to the bottom of the wall, and hide wires very nicely.

Raceway
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Need a little cable management? I used these raceways from Fry's. They stick to the bottom of the wall, and hide wires very nicely.

Raceway

Thanks but there are holes at the top and bottom of the tube and the wires will run inside. They will be holding infinity P162's in a few days. I'm still trying to decide whether I should cut 6 inches from them before filling with sand.
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a little picture update, my budget bedroom system is now complete. yes, i need to organize the wires...ill get to it.







and with the grills on

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a little picture update.............

What is between the speakers and the stands?

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What is between the speakers and the stands?

not sure what youre referring to but:

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not sure what youre referring to............

Sorry. I'm referring to what is actually in between the bottom of the speaker and the top of the stand. Looks like they are in direct contact with one another. This is probably not optimal. Consider putting something between the speaker and the stand. Like rubber or sorbothane bumpers. A piece of a mousepad. Etc.. Almost anything will work if it makes sense.

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For years while my kids were still at home I used a couple of old junk kitchen chairs - the swivel kind with the four spoke legs at the base the large support. I put wood screws into the base of the RS speakers - this made them very stable and never did get dumped over no matter how hard my son tried. A hot wheels in the house was never a good idea - especially on hardwood floors.

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Sorry. I'm referring to what is actually in between the bottom of the speaker and the top of the stand. Looks like they are in direct contact with one another. This is probably not optimal. Consider putting something between the speaker and the stand. Like rubber or sorbothane bumpers. A piece of a mousepad. Etc.. Almost anything will work if it makes sense.

thanks for the tip, i had no idea speakers like this should be raised a bit. i have some small lucite discs laying around for various projects, could i just put one under each corner of each speaker with a little glue? they're only about a 1/4 inch thick.
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