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^Bigham16,

thduke has GE Triton 1+2 speakers with the DDRC-88A.

I believe he's in the best position to advise you on the setup as well as ease of use.
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Just ordered a SuperCinema 3D Array XL today!!! I called GoldenEar to ask a few questions and Mr. Gross himself called me back (as he does for most I presume)!!! Customer service doesn't get much more personal than that! Getting to talk directly to the designer?! Wow! He answered all my questions in incredible detail, was great to talk to, and got me hooked up with a local dealer who took great care of me. Awesome to talk to an industry legend like that.

After I get this soundbar set up, I might just become a GE convert and check out those Tritons for my next HT setup! Will be posting a review of my buddy's Array once I have it all set up.
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LFE to Triton One with single LFE output on processor

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Hi, I have addressed this several times .....snip ....... we recommended just speaker wire, recently we found that when you set the processor to Large L and R and Sub No, even though the LFE information is fed into the L and R channels, it is attenuated and/or rolled off, so we now recommend using the LFE in: Large L and R (no crossover) Sub Yes. Set the bass level on the back of the Tritons to taste with 2 channel music.....snip ...... All the Best, Sandy
Hi all.

I am seriously looking at the Goldenear Triton Ones to replace my mains and a sub-woofer in a system used for both stereo and 5.1. The sub is going as we are downsizing to an apartment.

I see that Sandy is recommending using the LFE input as well as the speaker inputs. The problem in my 5.1 setup is that there is only a single sub-woofer output on my old Denon 3308 HT processor. I take it I need to send the signal to both speakers and I see no way of daisy chaining the LFE signal from one speaker to the other (there are no outputs). Are there any other options for getting LFE to both speakers apart from replacing my processor, a processor which works fine otherwise.

Appreciate some advice.

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Hi all.

I am seriously looking at the Goldenear Triton Ones to replace my mains and a sub-woofer in a system used for both stereo and 5.1. The sub is going as we are downsizing to an apartment.

I see that Sandy is recommending using the LFE input as well as the speaker inputs. The problem in my 5.1 setup is that there is only a single sub-woofer output on my old Denon 3308 HT processor. I take it I need to send the signal to both speakers and I see no way of daisy chaining the LFE signal from one speaker to the other (there are no outputs). Are there any other options for getting LFE to both speakers apart from replacing my processor, a processor which works fine otherwise.

Appreciate some advice.

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All you need is a Y cable to split the signal out of the receiver one male RCA to two female RCAs
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Hi all.

I am seriously looking at the Goldenear Triton Ones to replace my mains and a sub-woofer in a system used for both stereo and 5.1. The sub is going as we are downsizing to an apartment.

I see that Sandy is recommending using the LFE input as well as the speaker inputs. The problem in my 5.1 setup is that there is only a single sub-woofer output on my old Denon 3308 HT processor. I take it I need to send the signal to both speakers and I see no way of daisy chaining the LFE signal from one speaker to the other (there are no outputs). Are there any other options for getting LFE to both speakers apart from replacing my processor, a processor which works fine otherwise.

Appreciate some advice.

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The Triton 1 does have a single LFE input to be connected from a single SUB out of the pre/pro/receiver.

Problem comes from adjusting the timings and levels of two Triton 1 units acting as separate subs so that a smooth bass response can be achieved at the Main Listening Position (MLP).

If both Triton 1s are equal distant as well as to the MLP, i.e. forms an equilateral triangle to the front left, front right and MLP, then the timing via a combined delay will be set on the pre/pro/receiver. As advised, get a Y-spliter out of the SUB output and connect to both Triton 1s.

There are two level adjustments available.

Initially at the Triton 1 via the sub woofer level. With both Triton 1s in operation, the idea is gain match them so both subs are working equally hard. If you've got the equilateral triangle arrangement, then the sub woofer level on both Triton 1s should be the same. The idea is to have both Triton 1 sub woofer levels so your pre/pro/receiver is reading a negative value around -6dB in it's auto calibration setup routine.

The second level adjustment is at the pre/pro/receiver. This is to tailor the bass sound to preference. After the auto calibration run, the pre/pro/receiver will advise if the value is positive or negative. If it is positive, go back to the Triton 1s and increase the sub woofer level (equally for both Triton 1s) a little more and re-run the auto calibration setup. If it too much in the negative (i.e. -12dB) then decrease the sub woofer level (equally for both Triton 1s) until it you get about -6dB in the auto calibration. This is a iterative process until the target level of around -6dB is reached.

Once you've got the -6dB point, have a listen to some of your favorite tunes and if the bass is a bit lacking, go into your pre/pro/receiver and adjust the sub level by +3dB or more until you're happy with the bass response. Do not adjust the sub woofer levels on the Triton 1s as the correction filters applied by the auto calibration are based on the previous sub woofer levels.

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The Triton 1 does have a single LFE input to be connected from a single SUB out of the pre/pro/receiver.

Problem comes from adjusting the timings and levels of two Triton 1 units acting as separate subs so that a smooth bass response can be achieved at the Main Listening Position (MLP).

If both Triton 1s are equal distant as well as to the MLP, i.e. forms an equilateral triangle to the front left, front right and MLP, then the timing via a combined delay will be set on the pre/pro/receiver. As advised, get a Y-spliter out of the SUB output and connect to both Triton 1s.

There are two level adjustments available.

Initially at the Triton 1 via the sub woofer level. With both Triton 1s in operation, the idea is gain match them so both subs are working equally hard. If you've got the equilateral triangle arrangement, then the sub woofer level on both Triton 1s should be the same. The idea is to have both Triton 1 sub woofer levels so your pre/pro/receiver is reading a negative value around -6dB in it's auto calibration setup routine.

The second level adjustment is at the pre/pro/receiver. This is to tailor the bass sound to preference. After the auto calibration run, the pre/pro/receiver will advise if the value is positive or negative. If it is positive, go back to the Triton 1s and increase the sub woofer level (equally for both Triton 1s) a little more and re-run the auto calibration setup. If it too much in the negative (i.e. -12dB) then decrease the sub woofer level (equally for both Triton 1s) until it you get about -6dB in the auto calibration. This is a iterative process until the target level of around -6dB is reached.

Once you've got the -6dB point, have a listen to some of your favorite tunes and if the bass is a bit lacking, go into your pre/pro/receiver and adjust the sub level by +3dB or more until you're happy with the bass response. Do not adjust the sub woofer levels on the Triton 1s as the correction filters applied by the auto calibration are based on the previous sub woofer levels.
Thanks Coopaw and steveting99. Not as expensive as I was thinking it might be, just a cable and some time. Excellent. Thanks.


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So does anybody have a pair of the Fives yet? Really want to hear a personal review instead of magazine review.

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I know I am jumping forward a bit here, I read on the GE Facebook Page that they are working on a Larger Center Channel, or at least acknowledged it. Any idea on release date?

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I need some advice.

My ht experience started 5 years ago with a HTIB 5.1 system that cost $500 including AVR.

I upgraded six months ago to a full 7.2.2 system, all HSU - hb1 mk2s for the fronts, front height and surrounds. These are pretty good bookshelf speakers. My dual subs are VTF3 Mk5's.

This is the extent of my ht experience.

I love the subs. And I love the rest for what they cost.

But I want more of that mid bass feeling and I just feel like maybe there could be more? I wonder if better front speakers would be a real improvements?

Would getting some GE fronts be a noticeable improvement? If so, since I have two pretty bad ass subs, would Triton 5's be the logical choice? I'd get super center xl later, and prob aons for the backs down the upgrade road later.
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Another question, and remember I'm very novice so sorry for stupid questions.

My MLP is with my back to a wall and because of my screwy room I must have my front speakers only about six feet apart. About 7-8 feet in front of me. One of them will be next to a wall. Is this going to be a lost cause trying to get better sound with GE speakers? I'm also hoping they help with a substantial dip on FR charts I get at 80 and 125hz.

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I need some advice.

My ht experience started 5 years ago with a HTIB 5.1 system that cost $500 including AVR.

I upgraded six months ago to a full 7.2.2 system, all HSU - hb1 mk2s for the fronts, front height and surrounds. These are pretty good bookshelf speakers. My dual subs are VTF3 Mk5's.

This is the extent of my ht experience.

I love the subs. And I love the rest for what they cost.

But I want more of that mid bass feeling and I just feel like maybe there could be more? I wonder if better front speakers would be a real improvements?

Would getting some GE fronts be a noticeable improvement? If so, since I have two pretty bad ass subs, would Triton 5's be the logical choice? I'd get super center xl later, and prob aons for the backs down the upgrade road later.
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Another question, and remember I'm very novice so sorry for stupid questions.

My MLP is with my back to a wall and because of my screwy room I must have my front speakers only about six feet apart. About 7-8 feet in front of me. One of them will be next to a wall. Is this going to be a lost cause trying to get better sound with GE speakers? I'm also hoping they help with a substantial dip on FR charts I get at 80 and 125hz.
Hi DaveyMac,

I assume you're familiar with REW measurements since pointing out the substantial dip at 80Hz and 125Hz? Unless you really don't like the sound of your HSU bookshelves and would like to try something different - are you more concerned about sound quality in your room?

If so, consider your room, the listening position and relative position of the speakers. Do you have any flexibility to move things around? If so, try 0.8 front to back position to see if it improves things. How about minimizing interference between the speaker and room boundaries? Is it possible to provide some breathing space between the bookshelf speaker and wall(s)? Increasing by foot can make a significant difference.

Moving things around in the room wont cost a single penny, but the resultant improvement in sound quality can be satisfying.

Once you've done all you can in terms of moving things around are you able to implement some quadratic diffusers, broadband absorber panels and bass absorbers in the room without objections from the other half? This method will also improve sound quality. You should be looking for ways to reduce the one note bass within the room and improve detail/clarity in the low frequencies. Bass absorbers will make the bass less pronounced, improve smoothness and less ringing (quicker decay). The broadband absorbers will help tighten the stereo imaging while the quadratic diffusers will fan out the vertical reflections making it appear the room much bigger than it really is.

Then look at the electronic room equalization (REQ) systems available on the market. Do you want something more flexible to tailor the sound to your taste or happy with simple setup? Experiment with the options available on the electronic EQ and see if you're happy with the results.

Having exhausted the above and still not happy with the sound quality, then its time to examine the noise makers. GE does offer great transducers (speakers/noise makers) that cover a wide variety of installations. For your room, do you really need floor standers or will bookshelves (Aon 3) be sufficient? Since you've got a pair of HSU subs (VTF3 Mk5) which go down to 18Hz, assumed they are placed in the right location to get smooth bass at the MLP (as well as implementing bass absorbers to reduce ringing) - is it really necessary to have additional floor standers such as the Triton 5 to reproduce more low frequencies down to 26Hz? Might want to think this through again.

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