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demo of Triton 5 & Triton 2's

Hi, I'm new to the forum & to Goldenear. looking to build a new home theater starting with the fronts either a set of triton 5's or 2's . found a dealer and last weekend went for a demo. started with the fives , they had a NAD M12 pre ,not sure about the amp but it was a NAD master series set up. nice sounding speaker ,loved the way the highs and mids blend together and the soundstage was good but for me it would need the addition of a sub.
now to the Triton two's. they were hooked up to a NAD C275BEE on the opposite side of the room. from the moment I dropped my cd in my jaw dropped !!!! the presence ,the soundstage ,the filled in bottom end and their
ability of the drivers to blend together sold me . I really hate window shopping but left the dealer with a plan and a smile on my face so I plan to pick them up soon, that leaves me to the center next . it seems like everyone is going for the XL center I think the SCX would be fine ? could anyone comment on the smaller center ? thanks

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Hi, I'm new to the forum & to Goldenear. looking to build a new home theater starting with the fronts either a set of triton 5's or 2's . found a dealer and last weekend went for a demo. started with the fives , they had a NAD M12 pre ,not sure about the amp but it was a NAD master series set up. nice sounding speaker ,loved the way the highs and mids blend together and the soundstage was good but for me it would need the addition of a sub.
now to the Triton two's. they were hooked up to a NAD C275BEE on the opposite side of the room. from the moment I dropped my cd in my jaw dropped !!!! the presence ,the soundstage ,the filled in bottom end and their
ability of the drivers to blend together sold me . I really hate window shopping but left the dealer with a plan and a smile on my face so I plan to pick them up soon, that leaves me to the center next . it seems like everyone is going for the XL center I think the SCX would be fine ? could anyone comment on the smaller center ? thanks
I have had my two's since 2011 and did have the SS50C as that was all there was at the time. I jumped up to the SCXL a year and a half ago and it is an amazing speaker. A huge jump in sonics and huge front sound stage. The Super Center X is not as big. I think it is meant to be paired with the sevens and perhaps the fives, although most people get the SCXL.

Think about the Triton 2's and their size. The SCXL is the closest match to an actual tower GE has right now.

If the rumours are correct and their is a larger center coming, that will be great to. I suspect it maybe powered? as def tech had a high end powered center. Maybe they still do. Which would make an incredible soundstage!
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I have had my two's since 2011 and did have the SS50C as that was all there was at the time. I jumped up to the SCXL a year and a half ago and it is an amazing speaker. A huge jump in sonics and huge front sound stage. The Super Center X is not as big. I think it is meant to be paired with the sevens and perhaps the fives, although most people get the SCXL.

Think about the Triton 2's and their size. The SCXL is the closest match to an actual tower GE has right now.

If the rumours are correct and their is a larger center coming, that will be great to. I suspect it maybe powered? as def tech had a high end powered center. Maybe they still do. Which would make an incredible soundstage!
Yeah .....I suppose your right about the center ,I did see it paired with the sevens. just trying to save a buck . have there been any amp issues that you know of with the tritons that have powered subs? just curious about that thanks.

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Yeah .....I suppose your right about the center ,I did see it paired with the sevens. just trying to save a buck . have there been any amp issues that you know of with the tritons that have powered subs? just curious about that thanks.
I had an amp failure in november i think? My dealer replaced it free of charge after getting a new one from GE.

No worries, GE customer service is outstanding. Sandy has been known to call people at home even. He helped me out with a problem by calling me at home in October. What other company has the CEO call you at home?
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I had an amp failure in november i think? My dealer replaced it free of charge after getting a new one from GE.

No worries, GE customer service is outstanding. Sandy has been known to call people at home even. He helped me out with a problem by calling me at home in October. What other company has the CEO call you at home?
thanks sonic....its good to know they have good customer service but one hopes not to have to use it . I wonder if there has been others or was yours
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thanks sonic....its good to know they have good customer service but one hopes not to have to use it . I wonder if there has been others or was yours
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I had an amp replaced on a T2 also, after about 3 years of use. Purchased mine in 2011 too
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I, too, had both amps replaced in my T2s with only a month left on the 3 year warranty.
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I, too, had both amps replaced in my T2s with only a month left on the 3 year warranty.
Not what a potential customer wants to hear does Goldenear chalk that up
to possible misuse ? I wonder want Sandy thinks ?
I've had subs for 10 years or more still going strong!
why within 3 years there seems to be problems worry's me

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Have a dumb question for those that have any of the Goldenear towers, right now I am using a pair of Paradigm Studio 100 towers which can get very loud. I am curious is with the design of the Goldenears not being a traditional speaker box does that mean that they can't go as loud as my Studio 100s?
I know that with the Goldenear I can expect to hear overall better quality of sound but was curious would I have to give up my house shaking volume to get better quality? I like to crank my music pretty loud.

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I know that with the Goldenear I can expect to hear overall better quality of sound but was curious would I have to give up my house shaking volume to get better quality? I like to crank my music pretty loud.

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I have two canaries in the coal mine of my house. They tolerate a full 4 db (average) louder with my Tritons than my old Boston Acoustics. And I play music loud enough you have to shout to be heard over the loud parts. That's just with music. With movies? Yeah. *EVERYONE* now comments how the floor shakes, and the previous rig included a Definitive Supercube 4000 subwoofer.

I remain impressed with the lack of breakup distortion compared to my previous speakers. All I can really say is they play plenty loud enough for me.

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I have two canaries in the coal mine of my house. They tolerate a full 4 db (average) louder with my Tritons than my old Boston Acoustics. And I play music loud enough you have to shout to be heard over the loud parts. That's just with music. With movies? Yeah. *EVERYONE* now comments how the floor shakes, and the previous rig included a Definitive Supercube 4000 subwoofer.

I remain impressed with the lack of breakup distortion compared to my previous speakers. All I can really say is they play plenty loud enough for me.

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I know you have said before but remind which Tritons do you have and what are you powering them with?

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No worries. Triton 1s, Pioneer SC-89.
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I have the Triton Sevens, which replaced Paradigm Millenium 200 towers. They get as loud as the Paradigm's did - though I admit I never take my system to ear bleeding levels. I have noticed the volume level on my Onkyo 3010 is the same with the Triton Sevens as with the Paradigms, though, so that means they scale the same. At least I assume it does. The Tritons have a LOT more bass, though, and much richer sound. I like that.
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I'm waiting for my dealer to get some T5s to demo.

I'm considering replacing my Paradigm Studio v4 (100's, 20's, CC690, ADP590) for the 6 of the Triton 5's and the SCXL. Anyone, here move from Paradigm Studios to the Tritons?
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I'm waiting for my dealer to get some T5s to demo.

I'm considering replacing my Paradigm Studio v4 (100's, 20's, CC690, ADP590) for the 6 of the Triton 5's and the SCXL. Anyone, here move from Paradigm Studios to the Tritons?
Yes I have the Studio 100's and the CC690. The CC690 is the one speaker I have been the most disappointed with, size does not automatically make a good center channel.
Want to erplace them with the Triton Fives and a Super Center XL. Was looking at the Ones but with my HSU sub don't see the need for a Tower with a built in powered sub (and the cost).

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Eyeballing the Triton 1's for my next LRs. (total overkill?) The whole thing with the Tritons including their own onboard amp is kind of throwing me off though, since I've honestly never used a tower with that before. I've used some beefy towers with large subs before that the AVR provided plenty of juice for, so I'm curious what the practical advantage is to the onboard amp. Is it superior to have that internally provided power perhaps to take the load off the AVR so it can focus its power on the mids/highs? I know. Dumb question that may have a totally obvious answer. I'm just wondering what your thoughts were on the Triton series' internal amplifiers.

I'm thinking about pairing these guys with the Yamaha CX-A5000/MX-A5000 separates, or whatever their successor ends up being.
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Eyeballing the Triton 1's for my next LRs. (total overkill?) The whole thing with the Tritons including their own onboard amp is kind of throwing me off though, since I've honestly never used a tower with that before. I've used some beefy towers with large subs before that the AVR provided plenty of juice for, so I'm curious what the practical advantage is to the onboard amp. Is it superior to have that internally provided power perhaps to take the load off the AVR so it can focus its power on the mids/highs? I know. Dumb question that may have a totally obvious answer. I'm just wondering what your thoughts were on the Triton series' internal amplifiers.

I'm thinking about pairing these guys with the Yamaha CX-A5000/MX-A5000 separates, or whatever their successor ends up being.
Not a dumb question.... and just my opinion, but I believe that in order to keep the narrow baffle design of the speaker would be the primary reason to use the internal amps . just my thought ,for what its worth and I'm sure sandy could answer it better. I'm sure if you get the triton ones you'll be more than happy

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Eyeballing the Triton 1's for my next LRs. (total overkill?) The whole thing with the Tritons including their own onboard amp is kind of throwing me off though, since I've honestly never used a tower with that before. I've used some beefy towers with large subs before that the AVR provided plenty of juice for, so I'm curious what the practical advantage is to the onboard amp. Is it superior to have that internally provided power perhaps to take the load off the AVR so it can focus its power on the mids/highs? I know. Dumb question that may have a totally obvious answer. I'm just wondering what your thoughts were on the Triton series' internal amplifiers.

I'm thinking about pairing these guys with the Yamaha CX-A5000/MX-A5000 separates, or whatever their successor ends up being.
Let the man himself explain his philosophy

By the way i had the chance to audition the 7s, 5s and 1s this past Saturday at a local dealer and was simply floored.
To say i was impressed would be an understatement.

I was curious about what seemed like hype and needed to hear them for myself and I am glad i did. Now i know.

I am not sure which of the Tritons i will end up with yet but i do know it will be one in the series.

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I'm waiting for my dealer to get some T5s to demo.

I'm considering replacing my Paradigm Studio v4 (100's, 20's, CC690, ADP590) for the 6 of the Triton 5's and the SCXL. Anyone, here move from Paradigm Studios to the Tritons?
I moved from Paradigm Reference Studio 40's to the Triton 2 and have no regrets. Replaced my Paradigm Reference CC with originally a SS50C (all that was available at the time) and then a SCXL. Best center channel i have owned to date.

I love my Triton set-up and hope to expand it in the future!
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Eyeballing the Triton 1's for my next LRs. (total overkill?) The whole thing with the Tritons including their own onboard amp is kind of throwing me off though, since I've honestly never used a tower with that before. I've used some beefy towers with large subs before that the AVR provided plenty of juice for, so I'm curious what the practical advantage is to the onboard amp. Is it superior to have that internally provided power perhaps to take the load off the AVR so it can focus its power on the mids/highs? I know. Dumb question that may have a totally obvious answer. I'm just wondering what your thoughts were on the Triton series' internal amplifiers.

I'm thinking about pairing these guys with the Yamaha CX-A5000/MX-A5000 separates, or whatever their successor ends up being.
On the Yamaha CX-A5000 you can't go wrong have been VERY HAPPY with mine, its paired with a Emotiva XPA-5, which I already had or would have gotten the MX-A500 as well.

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I moved from Paradigm Reference Studio 40's to the Triton 2 and have no regrets. Replaced my Paradigm Reference CC with originally a SS50C (all that was available at the time) and then a SCXL. Best center channel i have owned to date.

I love my Triton set-up and hope to expand it in the future!
For me my biggest problem with my current system is the center channel no matter what tweaks I do the voices still seemed muffled or get drowned out. This is why I am so looking forward to the new SCXL if it does as well as the SS50 but louder is what I want.

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For me my biggest problem with my current system is the center channel no matter what tweaks I do the voices still seemed muffled or get drowned out. This is why I am so looking forward to the new SCXL if it does as well as the SS50 but louder is what I want.
You won't be disappointed with the SCXL. I had mine set to 60hz and it was ample bass for movies. Dialog has yet to ever be a problem. I had to turn it up to 80hz because my cd's were skipping, even with padded feet and more bracing inside my cabinet. Even at 80hz the blend is really nice.

I had the same problem with my Paradigm center sometimes, not always.

I wonder if it is the YPAO calibration? Giving you the problem?

I have Audyssey XT32 and only used it for distance and phase measurements. After Sandy called me and we talked about turning off the calibration all together. I took his advice and got an analog Radioshack SPL meter off of ebay. Audyssey had been off on some settings when compared to the 75db mark on the SPL meter.

I am happy to say that with all the calibration turned off i have a fuller/richer sound from my T2's and my bass is no longer bloated, when using pure speaker wire. I tried the LFE and did not like the sound (my ears) with the calibration on and then off. Speaker wire is the best running fronts at full range. Otherwise the bass was too bloated for my liking.
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You won't be disappointed with the SCXL. I had mine set to 60hz and it was ample bass for movies. Dialog has yet to ever be a problem. I had to turn it up to 80hz because my cd's were skipping, even with padded feet and more bracing inside my cabinet. Even at 80hz the blend is really nice.

I had the same problem with my Paradigm center sometimes, not always.

I wonder if it is the YPAO calibration? Giving you the problem?

I have Audyssey XT32 and only used it for distance and phase measurements. After Sandy called me and we talked about turning off the calibration all together. I took his advice and got an analog Radioshack SPL meter off of ebay. Audyssey had been off on some settings when compared to the 75db mark on the SPL meter.

I am happy to say that with all the calibration turned off i have a fuller/richer sound from my T2's and my bass is no longer bloated, when using pure speaker wire. I tried the LFE and did not like the sound (my ears) with the calibration on and then off. Speaker wire is the best running fronts at full range. Otherwise the bass was too bloated for my liking.
Right now I have my center at 100hz with the treble turned up and dialogue lift enabled, the center is sitting below the tv but not that low to the the floor and have it tilted up still have trouble hearing. The worst is dialogue on the CBS network shows, it could just be where I receive my broadcast from.

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You won't be disappointed with the SCXL. I had mine set to 60hz and it was ample bass for movies. Dialog has yet to ever be a problem. I had to turn it up to 80hz because my cd's were skipping, even with padded feet and more bracing inside my cabinet. Even at 80hz the blend is really nice.

I had the same problem with my Paradigm center sometimes, not always.

I wonder if it is the YPAO calibration? Giving you the problem?

I have Audyssey XT32 and only used it for distance and phase measurements. After Sandy called me and we talked about turning off the calibration all together. I took his advice and got an analog Radioshack SPL meter off of ebay. Audyssey had been off on some settings when compared to the 75db mark on the SPL meter.

I am happy to say that with all the calibration turned off i have a fuller/richer sound from my T2's and my bass is no longer bloated, when using pure speaker wire. I tried the LFE and did not like the sound (my ears) with the calibration on and then off. Speaker wire is the best running fronts at full range. Otherwise the bass was too bloated for my liking.
My experience with the Triton 2's is the same as Sonic's. So I run mine full range, no LFE in and they sound great !
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By the way i had the chance to audition the 7s, 5s and 1s this past Saturday at a local dealer and was simply floored.
To say i was impressed would be an understatement.

I was curious about what seemed like hype and needed to hear them for myself and I am glad i did. Now i know.

I am not sure which of the Tritons i will end up with yet but i do know it will be one in the series.
Great link. I ended up watching all 4 parts of the video. Sandy's awesome. He really has brought a heck of a lot of product for the money. I'm still blown away by the XL soundbar I installed recently. The stereo imaging is hands down the best I've ever heard from a sound bar. Period. I can still tell hear left from right properly, but it blends so darn well. Tough to explain perhaps, and really needs to be heard in person to believe. When practical, I'm hoping to sway more people that direction instead of the more traditional powered sound bars I've heard over the years. There is just zero comparison.

Great explanation in that video about the built in amps on the Tritons. I think watching his presentation has pretty much sealed the deal as far as what towers I want to try out next. Target acquired.

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On the Yamaha CX-A5000 you can't go wrong have been VERY HAPPY with mine, its paired with a Emotiva XPA-5, which I already had or would have gotten the MX-A500 as well.
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So quick question. Let's say theoretically that I got a pair of Triton 1's for a dedicated HT. Since they have such great low frequency capability already, would it be just ridiculous to pair them with an external powered sub (or 2), such as a couple of FF5s or HSU VTFs? Would it be too much? Would it sound "off"? No such thing as too much bass capability?
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So quick question. Let's say theoretically that I got a pair of Triton 1's for a dedicated HT. Since they have such great low frequency capability already, would it be just ridiculous to pair them with an external powered sub (or 2), such as a couple of FF5s or HSU VTFs? Would it be too much? Would it sound "off"? No such thing as too much bass capability?
Well I know all the reviews say how much bass the Ones' have but I don't believe they can match the bass and sound I get from my HSU sub.

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So quick question. Let's say theoretically that I got a pair of Triton 1's for a dedicated HT. Since they have such great low frequency capability already, would it be just ridiculous to pair them with an external powered sub (or 2), such as a couple of FF5s or HSU VTFs? Would it be too much? Would it sound "off"? No such thing as too much bass capability?
Hi, I always say," Bass is like horsepower, only you can say how much you want". The bass from a pair of Triton Ones is exceptional. However, I have one enthusiast who is assembling a system with 3 pairs of Triton Ones (front, sides and rears) and 2 ForceField 5s, with an 8 way split coming out of his LFE out, into all 6 Triton Ones and the ForceFields, basically immersing himself in 8 LFE subwoofers. The key here is that the front Triton Ones are set as large, have the sub level set with 2 channel music, the other Triton Ones are set as large, and the overall LFE level is set to taste. Remember, having all this bass capability doesn't mean the bass will be too loud: that will be determined by how you set the levels. What it means is the bass will be superbly tight, controlled and effortless. All the Best, Sandy
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However, I have one enthusiast who is assembling a system with 3 pairs of Triton Ones (front, sides and rears) and 2 ForceField 5s, with an 8 way split coming out of his LFE out, into all 6 Triton Ones and the ForceFields, basically immersing himself in 8 LFE subwoofers.
DEAR LORD!!! That is going to sound absolutely nuts! Using Tritan Ones for the sides and rears too? I'm drooling over here!!! Hopefully you can give us a report someday about how that ends up working out. I've always wondered about using nice towers for those surround channels.

Thanks for the setup advice, Sandy. I bet you're right. With a couple of stand alone subs plus the Triton Ones, I will be able to seriously dial in precisely how I want my bass to work. No matter which route I go though, I do believe it will rock the house. Now only to sufficiently sound-proof that room for the WAF. Hehe.
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I also have 3 pairs of Triton 1s, a SuperCenter XL, and 4 Invisa HTR7000s sitting in my garage, waiting for the electrician to finish wiring my theater room. I'll be using them with my 2 JL Audio F113 Fathom subwoofers, for the same total of 8 subs in the room. The idea is not to have overpowering bass, but rather to have enough bass-producing locations in the room to provide smooth bass response over a larger portion of the listening area. The incredible amount of headroom available will allow very controlled and powerful bass, since each driver will not be pushed quite as hard. I'll be driving the speakers with my Krell amps (EV403 for front 3 speakers, and 2 S-1500/4 amps for surrounds and overheads). Should be done in a few weeks.

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