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you could wait to see if Dolby DTS X is implemented and then you can use an existing 9 or 11 channel set up...
DTS hasn't revealed much in terms of how it will implement it's latest technology with existing floor speakers and the additional height speakers required. As of today, there is no white paper for DTS:X. A lot of DTS effort has been in the marketing to drum up support for it's new sound object format, but very little on the technical details or setup requirements.

In other words it may take a year before DTS:X speaker configuration is ironed out. Compare that to Dolby were the full 24.1.10 speaker configuration has been laid out for immersive 3D sound and I remain skeptical that DTS can better this. At best, DTS will be equivalent to Dolby Atmos in terms of 3D sound - just as DTS-MA is equivalent to Dolby TrueHD in lossless movie soundtracks.

There is also the issue of content. Atmos soundtracks are available today, though the quantity and quality is lacking. Even if one doesn't get an Atmos soundtrack in the movie, there is Dolby Surround Up-mixer (DSU) that will take advantage of the height channels with traditional 5.1/7.1 Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA lossless soundtracks.

How many DTS:X movies are available right now? One called EX MACHINA to be released in July 2015.

When will DTS release their 3D object sound up-mixer? Maybe end of the year. But you'll have to purchase a new pre/pro/receiver to try this out. That's an expensive option for a single (so far) content format.

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DTS hasn't revealed much in terms of how it will implement it's latest technology with existing floor speakers and the additional height speakers required. As of today, there is no white paper for DTS:X. A lot of DTS effort has been in the marketing to drum up support for it's new sound object format, but very little on the technical details or setup requirements.

In other words it may take a year before DTS:X speaker configuration is ironed out. Compare that to Dolby were the full 24.1.10 speaker configuration has been laid out for immersive 3D sound and I remain skeptical that DTS can better this. At best, DTS will be equivalent to Dolby Atmos in terms of 3D sound - just as DTS-MA is equivalent to Dolby TrueHD in lossless movie soundtracks.

There is also the issue of content. Atmos soundtracks are available today, though the quantity and quality is lacking. Even if one doesn't get an Atmos soundtrack in the movie, there is Dolby Surround Up-mixer (DSU) that will take advantage of the height channels with traditional 5.1/7.1 Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA lossless soundtracks.

How many DTS:X movies are available right now? One called EX MACHINA to be released in July 2015.

When will DTS release their 3D object sound up-mixer? Maybe end of the year. But you'll have to purchase a new pre/pro/receiver to try this out. That's an expensive option for a single (so far) content format.
Thanks for the info. I saw this http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300063437.html

Looks like implementation is happening with the new models. If DTS X is easy to integrate vs Atmos on the engineers part, then i think it is viable and could see transition quite easily when mixing.
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Been looking into GE, anyone else have the Fives? Would like to hear more comments if anyone can chime in...thanks in advance.
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Hi, We expect to have the SuperSub XXL in the stores in late August. This is a rather complex product, and we want to get it right. All the Best, Sandy
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What about SS3's mounted on a swivel holder. Could be attached to the ceiling and aimed at the MLP?
Hi, As suggested here, we have had several folks who have mounted SuperSat 3s on pivot mounts either on the ceiling or very high on the walls angled down, with excellent results. We feel that this gives much better results than bouncing sound off the ceiling. All the Best, Sandy
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Hi, Well actually, we expect them in our warehouse next week. It incorporates 4 5.25" drivers, 3 passive radiators and the HVFR tweeter, of course. There are three internal chambers. The two outer 5.25" drivers, which are optimized as bass drivers, are coupled to their own individual passives (similar in size to the passives used in the SuperCenter XL) and roll off at the top end at about 600Hz. The two 5.25" drivers which surround the tweeter are coupled to their own passive, which is similar to the one in the SuperCenter X. There is a balanced crossover, as incorporated in the Triton One and Five. Similar in height and depth to the other SuperCenters, it is 35" wide. Retail is $1249. All the Best, Sandy
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Hi, Well actually, we expect them in our warehouse next week. It incorporates 4 5.25" drivers, 3 passive radiators and the HVFR tweeter, of course. There are three internal chambers. The two outer 5.25" drivers, which are optimized as bass drivers, are coupled to their own individual passives (similar in size to the passives used in the SuperCenter XL) and roll off at the top end at about 600Hz. The two 5.25" drivers which surround the tweeter are coupled to their own passive, which is similar to the one in the SuperCenter X. There is a balanced crossover, as incorporated in the Triton One and Five. Similar in height and depth to the other SuperCenters, it is 35" wide. Retail is $1249. All the Best, Sandy
Wow, perfect timing. I was about to upgrade my SC50 to SuperXL. I think I'll go fro the XXL now and also upgrade my T2s to T1s.

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Been looking into GE, anyone else have the Fives? Would like to hear more comments if anyone can chime in...thanks in advance.
Have them bought just another week till I get them.

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Hi, Well actually, we expect them in our warehouse next week. It incorporates 4 5.25" drivers, 3 passive radiators and the HVFR tweeter, of course. There are three internal chambers. The two outer 5.25" drivers, which are optimized as bass drivers, are coupled to their own individual passives (similar in size to the passives used in the SuperCenter XL) and roll off at the top end at about 600Hz. The two 5.25" drivers which surround the tweeter are coupled to their own passive, which is similar to the one in the SuperCenter X. There is a balanced crossover, as incorporated in the Triton One and Five. Similar in height and depth to the other SuperCenters, it is 35" wide. Retail is $1249. All the Best, Sandy
Well I have already ordered the XL to go with my order of the Fives, and can't see any reason to change I think my XL will be perfect for my Fives, and couldn't imagine paying that extra $500 for the 3 extra speakers included in the XXL.
Wish they would update their website more often, there is no mention of this new speaker anywhere on there.

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Have them bought just another week till I get them.
Very nice, congrats! please be sure to post your impressions!
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Well I have already ordered the XL to go with my order of the Fives, and can't see any reason to change I think my XL will be perfect for my Fives, and couldn't imagine paying that extra $500 for the 3 extra speakers included in the XXL.
Wish they would update their website more often, there is no mention of this new speaker anywhere on there.
Hi, The SuperCenter XL will certainly match well with your Triton Fives, which I trust that you are enjoying. There is BTW, a new review up on the Triton Five today: http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...st-look-video/ Please realize that the XXL is more that just 3 extra drivers (actually 2 more drivers and an extra passive) . In reality, the XXL required a lot of development time to get everything working well together and sounding right.The larger cabinet is much more complex inside, with three separate chambers. Also, although you hardly see it, the mounting depth of the drivers varies in order to help get the phase response aligned. The crossover is also much more complex, being both balanced, with polypropylene capacitors, and with an extra section to roll off the top end of the low frequency drivers located on the outside edges of the cabinet differently that the two inner ones. And, of course, a lot of R&D went into making it all work properly, including developing a new version of the 5.25" driver that is used for low frequencies, with a different voice coil for optimized low frequency performance. Sometimes what looks to be relatively simple, is not simple at all. All the Best, Sandy
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Hi, The SuperCenter XL will certainly match well with your Triton Fives, which I trust that you are enjoying. There is BTW, a new review up on the Triton Five today: http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...st-look-video/ Please realize that the XXL is more that just 3 extra drivers (actually 2 more drivers and an extra passive) . In reality, the XXL required a lot of development time to get everything working well together and sounding right.The larger cabinet is much more complex inside, with three separate chambers. Also, although you hardly see it, the mounting depth of the drivers varies in order to help get the phase response aligned. The crossover is also much more complex, being both balanced, with polypropylene capacitors, and with an extra section to roll off the top end of the low frequency drivers located on the outside edges of the cabinet differently that the two inner ones. And, of course, a lot of R&D went into making it all work properly, including developing a new version of the 5.25" driver that is used for low frequencies, with a different voice coil for optimized low frequency performance. Sometimes what looks to be relatively simple, is not simple at all. All the Best, Sandy
Sorry didn't mean to question the build or design quality of the speaker, just noting that I couldn't see the benefit in upgrading to the XXL for the extra price. Would like to have tried out the new XXL but for now I have what I can afford.
And after watching the review really can't wait to receive my 5's.

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Hi, Well actually, we expect them in our warehouse next week. It incorporates 4 5.25" drivers, 3 passive radiators and the HVFR tweeter, of course. There are three internal chambers. The two outer 5.25" drivers, which are optimized as bass drivers, are coupled to their own individual passives (similar in size to the passives used in the SuperCenter XL) and roll off at the top end at about 600Hz. The two 5.25" drivers which surround the tweeter are coupled to their own passive, which is similar to the one in the SuperCenter X. There is a balanced crossover, as incorporated in the Triton One and Five. Similar in height and depth to the other SuperCenters, it is 35" wide. Retail is $1249. All the Best, Sandy
Thanks for the update the new center could make a great match with my Triton 1s.
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Thanks for the update the new center could make a great match with my Triton 1s.
That's what I was thinking is this center was made for matching with the ones.

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I have 4 Super Sat 3's on my ceiling on pivot mounts pointed at the MLP. They are awesome! I have also heard the Invisa 7000 in an Atoms room and I cannot tell a notable difference between the two speakers.

BUT if I could have made the Invisa 7000 work in my room, then I would have gone with them.

Thank you Sandy on the update about the new XXL center. Just sent an email to my dealer about ordering one!

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