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Hi, The material behind the grille sock is a special perforated metal. The socks can be removed for servicing, or permanently if you really want to. The tops pop off and there is a drawstring. In terms of checking for deteriorated foam surrounds- don't worry, we use butyl rubber, which will probably outlast us all. All the Best, Sandy
Thanks for your response, Sandy.

I presume the perforated metal is designed for acoustical purposes and not just stability.

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Now that it's August...SuperSub XXL?
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Now that it's August...SuperSub XXL?
http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...Q3tXSZ7ixJz.97
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A question for Sandy...i am using SS3's as Atmos speakers. I was looking at the S&V review, in particular the testing section.
http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...-labs-measures

I am trying to understand the apparent difference in the measured response of the SS3 vs the SS3C...
Obviously, the response curves are very similar, but the SS3 is at least 10 dB louder than the SS3C...if I am reading this correctly.
They are basically the same speaker with the tweeter rotated 90 degrees and their sensitivity at 92 dB is the same.
Given measurements were taken at the same input at the same distance, how can the measured response be so different?
I am sure that I am missing something. I am just trying to understand what I am looking at. It seems to me that those response curves should lie in almost on top of one another...

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Curious what people are using for their crossover point on Triton Fives and the Supercenter XXL, audyssey set mine to 40hz, but that seemed low, I have them at 80hz right now.

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Curious what people are using for their crossover point on Triton Fives and the Supercenter XXL, audyssey set mine to 40hz, but that seemed low, I have them at 80hz right now.

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I'm running my Triton 5s at full range ONLY because I have a REL Storm III sub that needs them full range based on how I have it connected. I played with them at 40hz and liked them there when using the RCA sub inputs. I cross my SuperCenter XL over at 60hz.

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Amplifier question...

I'm sure this has been discussed here countless times, but I've been fruitless in searching the thread to find it so here it goes. I'm running Triton one towers and three Definitive Technology Mythos 10 speakers (in the process of switching over to GE) in a 5.1 configuration. I am using a Denon X4000 as my receiver to power this configuration. The Denon X4000 is rated at 125W per channel with 2cd. I'm guessing my real world power is much lower when I'm running 5cd through the receiver (50-70W maybe?).

My question is, in light of swapping out my DT center and surrounds for GE (XXL and SS30's), will upgrading my electronics to include an Emotiva XPA-7 (driven by my X4000 preouts) provide me with better sound quality? I'm not concerned about louder volumes, just better clarity and dynamics at low to mid volume levels. I do not feel my T1's are imaging as well as they should be, sounds are flat. I understand there's a raging debate and rift here on AVS regarding whether or not increasing amplifier power will increase a speaker's dynamics and sound quality. I'm not just looking at upgrading my "power" with this upgrade but the overall quality of my electronics as the X4000 is an "entry" level receiver that I'm pairing with audiophile grade T1 speakers.

I'm not able to employ room treatments in my living room where this equipment is located so I'm looking at my electronics which I consider to be the weakest link in the chain right now.

I'm looking for opinions from members that have replaced their all in one AVRs with Emotiva separates (or comparables) powering their GE speakers. Will I need to replace the X4000 entirely, would it be a bad choice to pair with an Emotiva amp as a pre/pro?

Sandy, do you have any thoughts on the impact component choices have on how your wonderful speakers perform?
Thanks for the insight.
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Very good question...I too am looking to add an Emotiva or McIntosh amp to increase audio clarity and dynamics.


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Amplifier question...

I'm sure this has been discussed here countless times, but I've been fruitless in searching the thread to find it so here it goes. I'm running Triton one towers and three Definitive Technology Mythos 10 speakers (in the process of switching over to GE) in a 5.1 configuration. I am using a Denon X4000 as my receiver to power this configuration. The Denon X4000 is rated at 125W per channel with 2cd. I'm guessing my real world power is much lower when I'm running 5cd through the receiver (50-70W maybe?).

My question is, in light of swapping out my DT center and surrounds for GE (XXL and SS30's), will upgrading my electronics to include an Emotiva XPA-7 (driven by my X4000 preouts) provide me with better sound quality? I'm not concerned about louder volumes, just better clarity and dynamics at low to mid volume levels. I do not feel my T1's are imaging as well as they should be, sounds are flat. I understand there's a raging debate and rift here on AVS regarding whether or not increasing amplifier power will increase a speaker's dynamics and sound quality. I'm not just looking at upgrading my "power" with this upgrade but the overall quality of my electronics as the X4000 is an "entry" level receiver that I'm pairing with audiophile grade T1 speakers.

I'm not able to employ room treatments in my living room where this equipment is located so I'm looking at my electronics which I consider to be the weakest link in the chain right now.

I'm looking for opinions from members that have replaced their all in one AVRs with Emotiva separates (or comparables) powering their GE speakers. Will I need to replace the X4000 entirely, would it be a bad choice to pair with an Emotiva amp as a pre/pro?

Sandy, do you have any thoughts on the impact component choices have on how your wonderful speakers perform?
Thanks for the insight.
I've had Triton 2's since 2011, and have made a number of changes and upgrades over the years to my electronics. I can tell you that Tritons are the type of speakers that benefit from any improvement you make in your setup, especially for 2ch music. This means they are also really good at highlighting flaws. There are lots of philosophies about upgrading electronics, my experience with the Triton 2's is that you want to have a good DAC and good amplification. And if your interest is music, quality, hires source and clean signal chain are critical.

I have a low end Emotiva and a mid-range Rotel amp. They sound very different with the Rotel providing more detail, but the Emo supplying more warmth to vocals. Both are significantly better than the amps in my previous Anthem MRX series, but I can't tell you which I like more between the Emo and Rotel, they are just different. There are a lot of people on here with Emo XPA-x and love them. As for specific recommendation, you don't NEED to replace your x4000 entirely. I would get a good amp first and you should find that makes an improvement. Then keep an eye out for a good pre/pro for even bigger improvement. Have fun.
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I've had Triton 2's since 2011, and have made a number of changes and upgrades over the years to my electronics. I can tell you that Tritons are the type of speakers that benefit from any improvement you make in your setup, especially for 2ch music. This means they are also really good at highlighting flaws. There are lots of philosophies about upgrading electronics, my experience with the Triton 2's is that you want to have a good DAC and good amplification. And if your interest is music, quality, hires source and clean signal chain are critical.

I have a low end Emotiva and a mid-range Rotel amp. They sound very different with the Rotel providing more detail, but the Emo supplying more warmth to vocals. Both are significantly better than the amps in my previous Anthem MRX series, but I can't tell you which I like more between the Emo and Rotel, they are just different. There are a lot of people on here with Emo XPA-x and love them. As for specific recommendation, you don't NEED to replace your x4000 entirely. I would get a good amp first and you should find that makes an improvement. Then keep an eye out for a good pre/pro for even bigger improvement. Have fun.
BCMS6,

Thank you kindly for your thoughts. I appreciate your taking the time to share your view.

Anyone else?
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GoldenEar Technologies Anticipation Thread

OFF TOPIC: is there a thing called "speaker recommendation" ( bookshelf or floorstanding ) in relation to room size? ( just like a tv/PJ screen, with their own screen distance to sitting position recommendation .)


and can AON 3 equally produce same or better soundstage than Polk Audio RTi A5? ( bookshelf vs FS ).. ( upgrade mood )

Edit: room size is 9W x 21L x 8H (in ft.) MLP is 10-12ft from screen wall

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Subwoofer can be rated by their ability to pressurize a room. Loudspeakers I think looking at sensitivity and your available power is more than important . Obviously don't use bose cubes in a 3000sqft room.

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OFF TOPIC: is there a thing called "speaker recommendation" ( bookshelf or floorstanding ) in relation to room size? ( just like a tv/PJ screen, with their own screen distance to sitting position recommendation .)


and can AON 3 equally produce same or better soundstage than Polk Audio RTi A5? ( bookshelf vs FS ).. ( upgrade mood )

Edit: room size is 9W x 21L x 8H (in ft.) MLP is 10-12ft from screen wall
Unfortunately no, at least IMO. Speaker tastes are too individual for some sort of guide to work. The Polks you mention use a completely different tweeter technology than what you'll find in the GoldenEars, so I can pretty confidently say they'll sound different from each other. Whether you'll like the difference is up to you. As I noted earlier (and paraphrasing a WWI flying ace): Find a dealer and listen with your own ears. The rest is rubbish.
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A question for Sandy...i am using SS3's as Atmos speakers. I was looking at the S&V review, in particular the testing section.
http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...-labs-measures

I am trying to understand the apparent difference in the measured response of the SS3 vs the SS3C...
Obviously, the response curves are very similar, but the SS3 is at least 10 dB louder than the SS3C...if I am reading this correctly.
They are basically the same speaker with the tweeter rotated 90 degrees and their sensitivity at 92 dB is the same.
Given measurements were taken at the same input at the same distance, how can the measured response be so different?
I am sure that I am missing something. I am just trying to understand what I am looking at. It seems to me that those response curves should lie in almost on top of one another...
Hi, Normally they offset the curves by 10B for clarity, which is what you are looking at. Thanks, Sandy
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Sandy, hi. Thanks for the info. I had tried to reply to your reply, but I think that it got lost somewhere.

I just wanted you to know that I had picked up a pair of Triton Sevens earlier this week.
They are exceptional.

Congratulations on such a stellar product and thank you.

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I am interested in the Fives. several reviews have said that they have a dark presentation, which is preferable to me compared to some of the tipped up ear bleeding speakers which I fell are unlistenable. My previous large speakers were Mirage M3s. I loved them but they had a very dark presentation and not a lot of detail and they were huge. 54" tall and 18" across the front! they dominated the room and I later went with 9" tall Mirage OMD5s and put the M3s in the garage where they got ruined by water.
So now I want to get back into a real audio system. Am I going to get more detail and air out the of the Goldenears and exactly how dark is the voicing?
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You'll need to audition them yourself. I came from a set of what I thought were overly bright speakers (Boston Acoustic VR3s), and I find the GEs to be more detailed while also being far less harsh and bright. Visually all the Tritons more or less disappear from the room they're in, a big (and not accidental) advantage to a speaker that's a lot deeper than it is wide. My wife calls them "the little black dress" of speakers, which is funny considering how big the towers can get.

Everyone's terms are different, but your priorities sound in line with what I experience with mine. Go give 'em a listen. Don't cost nothin'.
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I am interested in the Fives. several reviews have said that they have a dark presentation, which is preferable to me compared to some of the tipped up ear bleeding speakers which I fell are unlistenable. My previous large speakers were Mirage M3s. I loved them but they had a very dark presentation and not a lot of detail and they were huge. 54" tall and 18" across the front! they dominated the room and I later went with 9" tall Mirage OMD5s and put the M3s in the garage where they got ruined by water.
So now I want to get back into a real audio system. Am I going to get more detail and air out the of the Goldenears and exactly how dark is the voicing?
B4Z,

I have the Fives. I came from some B&W CDM7SE speakers which are not bright or harsh at all but that being said I've had some ear issues due to a virus and I'm sensitive to harsh/bright speakers for sure. I can tell you the Fives are NOT bright or harsh but yet very detailed, open and airy. I've not found any other speaker anywhere near their price that can be that detailed, dynamic and airy with the live music type sound and not get harsh. Triton Fives simply do NOT get that way at all.

Go listen. I did and was sold immediately.

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B4Z,

I have the Fives. I came from some B&W CDM7SE speakers which are not bright or harsh at all but that being said I've had some ear issues due to a virus and I'm sensitive to harsh/bright speakers for sure. I can tell you the Fives are NOT bright or harsh but yet very detailed, open and airy. I've not found any other speaker anywhere near their price that can be that detailed, dynamic and airy with the live music type sound and not get harsh. Triton Fives simply do NOT get that way at all.

Go listen. I did and was sold immediately.
Seriously! I went and heard the fives and feel the exact same way. I always thought that adjectives like "airy" and "detailed" and "spacious" was just marketing hype...until I listened to them and those are the best way I can describe the difference I heard between the fives and everything else.
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