Originally Posted by haroldminer
All, I appreciate some discussion as I am struggling with speaker decisions as I am not fully up to speed on numerous options available today. I am looking for in-ceiling speakers to be my L/C/R for my living room. In ceiling are my only option due to my room configuration. I've been looking at B&W CCM 7 series. I've since become aware of the Invisa HTR 7000. It is difficult to find discussion of these in this massive thread.
I'd appreciate any feedback on these and how they compare to other options (such as the B&W). The price difference would make the decision certainly more palatable.
The Invisa 7000 are a great choice if you are forced to go in-ceiling for your L/C/R speakers. I demoed them at a local Golden Ear dealer, and they really did give the illusion of being at ear level, and they sounded great. I was setting up an Atmos home theater and my surrounds had to be in-ceiling behind the MLP, so speakers that give the illusion of being ear-level was important to create separation from the Atmos ceiling speakers.
I ended up choosing Definitive Technology RCS III's over the Invisa 7000's for a couple of reasons - both speakers sounded great and gave a convincing illusion of being at ear level. But I have Definitive 8060's for my L/C/R and I wanted to timbre match my speakers as much as possible, and I got the RCS III's on sale for several hundred less than I could find the Invisa 7000's. I think the more expensive RCS II's are more of a direct competitor to the Invisa 7000's, but they were too big to fit between my ceiling beams.
In retrospect, I sort of wish I had chosen the Invisa 7000's. Not because the Def Tech's don't sound great - they absolutely do! (I believe Sandy Gross designed those as well when he ran Def Tech) - but because the Invisa 7000's are amiable and the Def Tech's are not. Both speakers have to be mounted between ceiling beams, so you may be limited to where you can place them in the ceiling. Because of the technology involved with these speakers, they are very narrow dispersion, so it is important to be able to aim them directly at the MLP. My RCS III's are mounted wider than the MLP, by necessity, and just moving a couple feet results in a different sound. I'm sure room correction deals with this somewhat, but the Invisa 7000's are amiable so all 3 speakers can be aimed precisely where you want. If you were going to mount your L/C/R's fairly close together and aimed at the MLP the Def Tech RCS III's or II's would be an excellent choice as they sound terrific and can be found on sale on the internet for several hundred less than the Invisa's. But if you need or want to mount your L/R's wider than the MLP, I think the Invisa's would be the better choice.
BTW, Golden Ear demoed an all-in-ceiling Dolby Atmos theater using Invisa 7000's at CEDIA last year that got rave reviews, so that is something to think about as well (though your bank account might be reduced a little
). The dealer I went to didn't have the Invisa 7000 Atmos set up in his showroom, so I can't give a personal opinion on that. I don't know about the B&W speakers, but I would check to see if they are amiable for the reasons discussed above.
EDIT-The B&W's look like great speakers, but don't seem to be amiable.