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post #2521 of 2546 Old 08-14-2014, 02:45 PM
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Current draw

I am thinking about updating my Def Tech BP 7002's with the GE Triton 1's. Does anyone know the current draw from the built in subwoofers on the Triton 1's.
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Theses speakers are kick ass. I use the Triton 1's in a 2 channel no thrills set up, powered by a XPA-2, XSP-1, OPPO 105, and pro-ject turn table. My room is about 18 feet by 25 feet. I had the Triton 2 in the exact same set-up and just swapped out the speakers and took turns listen to each with the same tracks and same volume with a mixture of flacs, cd's, and vinyl. The 1's sounds magnificent, the overall sound is noticeable different, mostly in the bass and mids. At the same volume, the speakers fill the room with music better, I am not sure how much is due to the speaker itself being larger and dispersing the sound in the room better and how much is really due to the better low and mid performance. The bass does it though, although the Triton 2 were no slackers in this department, the 1's for two channel music are something else, you don't miss a sub at all. Given the size of my room, the Triton 1 are more then I need and I am not sure how many would really benefit to getting the 1's over the 2 unless you have a large room or home theater, thinking about it objectively. Don't get me wrong I would buy them again in a heart beat. My only minor issue/complaint is that the bass is too strong depending on what you listen to, and it should be dialed back a little (closer to ten and a half), with the Triton 2 I liked them closer to 12. A lot of you guys will run lapse around me with your technical and practical audio knowledge but these are just my thoughts.
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x or xl center

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I am trying to decide between the x or xl center, since ge recommends setting the center to small, what is the advantage of the xl over the x thannks
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I am trying to decide between the x or xl center, since ge recommends setting the center to small, what is the advantage of the xl over the x thannks
Slightly better mids and base which helps in vocals

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I just joined the goldenear club. I wennt to my local dealer in hartford ct and listened to the triton 7 and triton 2 speakers side by side.I have owned many good speakers over the years but these just blew me away. The soundstage was massive and so detailed i knew after 2 minutes i was going to buy one or the other. They did have them running off of some very expensive mcintosh separates. I went with the 7's and am XL center, i could not justify the extra money for the 2's since i have 2 good subs in my theater. Unfortunately they did not have the triton 7's in stock, i did take home the XL center. The tritons should be there tuesday. I replaced my Emotiva 6.3 center with the goldenear center and have been listening to it for 2 days now. Initially i was rather disappointed with it but after just a few hours it really improved. It actually sounds great with my Emotiva 8.3 towers as well as 3 pairs of Emotiva surround speakers for my 9.2 set up. I have watched lots of my favorite parts of movies and the dialogue is incredibly real and accurate. It really does sound like the person is in the room. One scene that demonstrated this was at the end of the 2009 Star Trek movie when Leonard Nimoy does the Narration "Space...the final frontier " ( you know the rest ) I have heard this several times, but never like this. I could actually hear his voice straining on many of the words. To be honest this is one of the times that i think the XL center was a bit too accurate , It is however a great example of what it can do. I cant wait till Tuesday to swap my emotiva towers with my new triton 7's.

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Planning to build an addition and add a dedicated home theater room. (seating for 8)

Already own a SuperCenter XL, a pair of AON 2 speakers, a Rythmik D15SE sub, Oppo BDP-103D, and a Denon X4000 receiver.


For $5k, what do you think is the best option? 75% movies / 25% music.


Option 1: Grab the Triton Ones, use the AON 2 as rear channels and call it a day.

Option 2: Grab the Triton Twos, use the AON 2 as rear channels, and pick up a second Rythmik to match. Spend remaining $1500 on a discrete amp?

Option 3: Grab four Triton Sevens - two front, two rear, use the AON 2 as side channels, and pick up a second Rythmik to match. Spend remaining $1200 on a discrete amp?
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Planning to build an addition and add a dedicated home theater room. (seating for 8)

Already own a SuperCenter XL, a pair of AON 2 speakers, a Rythmik D15SE sub, Oppo BDP-103D, and a Denon X4000 receiver.


For $5k, what do you think is the best option? 75% movies / 25% music.


Option 1: Grab the Triton Ones, use the AON 2 as rear channels and call it a day.

Option 2: Grab the Triton Twos, use the AON 2 as rear channels, and pick up a second Rythmik to match. Spend remaining $1500 on a discrete amp?

Option 3: Grab four Triton Sevens - two front, two rear, use the AON 2 as side channels, and pick up a second Rythmik to match. Spend remaining $1200 on a discrete amp?
You need to hear the One's to make that decision, and figure out how much bass you need from the subs for your space. I have 4x Seven's in my home theater (fronts and wides), the XL center and two Invisa 650s as surrounds, with a Marantz 7008 AVR. I have the Denon X4000 in a bedroom system with 2x Seven's, an Aon 3 center and 2x SuperSat 3 surrounds. I'm going to audition the One's, but I may not make the leap. The Seven's are incredible speakers. Personally, if I were in your shoes, I'd listen to the One's with a lot of material I know well, then decide between the Seven's and the One's. I like the Seven's better than the Two's.

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You need to hear the One's to make that decision, and figure out how much bass you need from the subs for your space. I have 4x Seven's in my home theater (fronts and wides), the XL center and two Invisa 650s as surrounds, with a Marantz 7008 AVR. I have the Denon X4000 in a bedroom system with 2x Seven's, an Aon 3 center and 2x SuperSat 3 surrounds. I'm going to audition the One's, but I may not make the leap. The Seven's are incredible speakers. Personally, if I were in your shoes, I'd listen to the One's with a lot of material I know well, then decide between the Seven's and the One's. I like the Seven's better than the Two's.
Sounds like a good plan. Thx for the feedback!
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I like the Seven's better than the Two's.
Why?
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Mainly, it's because I like the midrange a lot more. The crossover between the tweeter/midrange can be set lower because of the new drivers developed for the Sevens/Aons. I have an SVS sub that handles the low end very well (for me). The Sevens provide a sweet blending of the tweeter, midrange and low frequencies above where the sub takes over. My home theater room is relatively small (17x11.5x7.5), and the Sevens fit the sonic space really well. I like the Sevens so much that I'm hesitant to listen to the Ones now. It's my understanding from reviews and articles that the Ones take the best of what all the previous generations have done and refine the driver, crossover and box designs even more. I'm afraid once I listen I might not be able to resist. I'm looking at OLED TVs now and am hesitant to drop $5,000 on speakers to replace the already great-sounding Sevens.
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Sandy,

Not sure if you're aware that Dolby Atmos for the home theater is coming soon. Would Goldenears be providing solutions for Atmos enabled (up-firing) modules that can go with the Triton or Aon series? Or do you think the existing Invisa/SuperSat series are sufficient?

Would Goldenears be attending the upcoming CEDIA meet in September?

Sorry to mention Atmos in the Goldenears thread - just means spending more money on additional Goldenears speakers...

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Would Goldenears be attending the upcoming CEDIA meet in September?
They do have booth space reserved at Cedia and usually have a listening room set up. I've always been impressed with the sound of his GE offerings but I'm not in the market presently. They would be on my short list though if I was.
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Their FB page said they would be at CEDIA demoing Atmos.

"GoldenEar Technology: We'll let you know, we're doing a full Atoms 5.1.4 demo at the upcoming CEDA trade show next month using the HTR 7000 as the Atmos height channels."

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Not sure if you're aware that Dolby Atmos for the home theater is coming soon. Would Goldenears be providing solutions for Atmos enabled (up-firing) modules that can go with the Triton or Aon series? Or do you think the existing Invisa/SuperSat series are sufficient?

Would Goldenears be attending the upcoming CEDIA meet in September?

Sorry to mention Atmos in the Goldenears thread - just means spending more money on additional Goldenears speakers...
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Their FB page said they would be at CEDIA demoing Atmos.

"GoldenEar Technology: We'll let you know, we're doing a full Atoms 5.1.4 demo at the upcoming CEDA trade show next month using the HTR 7000 as the Atmos height channels."
For Atmos, the HTR7000 are going to be in-ceiling speakers. I was hoping that Sandy would have Atmos enabled speaker modules. This is a solution for some of us who have a flat ceiling and can't run wires / drill holes / mount boxes into the ceiling. If your ceiling is not flat (i.e. cathedral type), looks like the HTR7000 solution is the way to Atmos for GE gear.

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For Atmos, the HTR7000 are going to be in-ceiling speakers. I was hoping that Sandy would have Atmos enabled speaker modules. This is a solution for some of us who have a flat ceiling and can't run wires / drill holes / mount boxes into the ceiling. If your ceiling is not flat (i.e. cathedral type), looks like the HTR7000 solution is the way to Atmos for GE gear.
The HTR7000 writeups I see make a point that it is designed very expressly to present an image coming from below the ceiling. I'm guessing you can tweek that at least some with how they're oriented, but it seems like that might involve some compromises in the tweeter directionality, at least. I do wonder if they are really a good fit or if a more Atmos appropriate design might emerge. Obviously, Atmos is very new so I expect there will be some experimenting and adjusting on how best to implement it in a speaker. I'm hoping to upgrade to 4K and Atmos in 2-3 years so by then, that should have happened.
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Sandy,

Not sure if you're aware that Dolby Atmos for the home theater is coming soon. Would Goldenears be providing solutions for Atmos enabled (up-firing) modules that can go with the Triton or Aon series? Or do you think the existing Invisa/SuperSat series are sufficient?

Would Goldenears be attending the upcoming CEDIA meet in September?

Sorry to mention Atmos in the Goldenears thread - just means spending more money on additional Goldenears speakers...
Hi, Actually, all of our Invisas will work well as in-ceiling mounted height channels, and certainly work well in flat ceilings. The 7000s, which we will be using at CEDIA, when used close in to the listening area, as would be normal in an Atmos set-up, will still sound like the sound is coming from above, and will provide a wider ideal seating area, as do toeing in front speakers. I would imagine, though, that most installations will use 650s, or 525s. MPXs will also work well, offering wider dispersion. I don't imagine many will mount boxes on the ceiling, and the Invisas will really do an excellent job of matching our other speakers, both timbre and quality wise.
Regarding the Atmos enabled speakers bouncing sound off the ceiling: We feel that most listeners in the quality range of our speakers, if they want Atmos, will want to do it in the best possible way, as Atmos was originally conceived, with ceiling mounted speakers. The enabled concept, while certainly offering a taste of what Atmos is about, we don't feel to be able to deliver all the performance and subtlety that Atmos is capable of. You will see all kinds of Atmos enabled speakers, including soundbars, we believe. We prefer going all the way to achieve the maximum implementation of this exciting new technology. We feel that it is worth the extra effort, and I believe most serious listeners will choose ceiling mounted speakers. All the Best, Sandy
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Hi, Actually, all of our Invisas will work well as in-ceiling mounted height channels, and certainly work well in flat ceilings. The 7000s, which we will be using at CEDIA, when used close in to the listening area, as would be normal in an Atmos set-up, will still sound like the sound is coming from above, and will provide a wider ideal seating area, as do toeing in front speakers. I would imagine, though, that most installations will use 650s, or 525s. MPXs will also work well, offering wider dispersion. I don't imagine many will mount boxes on the ceiling, and the Invisas will really do an excellent job of matching our other speakers, both timbre and quality wise.
Regarding the Atmos enabled speakers bouncing sound off the ceiling: We feel that most listeners in the quality range of our speakers, if they want Atmos, will want to do it in the best possible way, as Atmos was originally conceived, with ceiling mounted speakers. The enabled concept, while certainly offering a taste of what Atmos is about, we don't feel to be able to deliver all the performance and subtlety that Atmos is capable of. You will see all kinds of Atmos enabled speakers, including soundbars, we believe. We prefer going all the way to achieve the maximum implementation of this exciting new technology. We feel that it is worth the extra effort, and I believe most serious listeners will choose ceiling mounted speakers. All the Best, Sandy
Hi Sandy,

Thanks for the response! Never expected a reply from the founder of GE.

From your post it appears that GE wont be making any Atmos enabled (up-firing) speaker modules at all?

With the current Ivisa Atmos solution, it means cutting and drilling holes into the ceiling. Will need to sweet talk this with the wife as she wont be happy with changing the receiver. Might have to wait for an appropriate time.

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I got a message from GE that my Ones are held up in Customs by the unions there who are staging a slowdown.

https://www.fitchratings.com/gws/en/...t?pr_id=848915

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I got a message from GE that my Ones are held up in Customs by the unions there who are staging a slowdown.

https://www.fitchratings.com/gws/en/...t?pr_id=848915
Happy you guys convinced me to I picked up the first batch ...
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Happy you guys convinced me to I picked up the first batch ...


Yep, freight is a BI**H. They need to release customs, travel through Chicago, than Kentucky, then broken down, then shipped. I made the cut on the second order from my dealer in Naperville IL, don't hold your breath, but they come they will come Not GE's fault. Just sold the last of my Paradigms, going full GE on my man cave build.




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- Invisa MPX or 7000 ceiling, haven't done enough research to determine which


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I just got my triton 7's yesterday to go along with my new super center xl. Incredible is the only thing i can really say. I have never heard detail like this in any of my many other speaker configurations over the years. Its really amazing the incredible soundstage these little towers can produce. With the super center xl it is a wall of sound like i have never heard before. Now i am deciding which goldenear speakers to get when i upgrade my 3 pair of emotiva erd surrounds. The emotiva surrounds sound great with the goldenears but i wont be satisfied until i get goldenears for the front wides. surrounds and backs. My choice as of now would to get 3 pairs of the aon 2's. I just wonder if that would be more than i need. I know the super sat 30 are less expensive than the aon 2 but it looks like the aon2 are a better value. I am going to look for some used aons. If anybody here is thinking of selling theirs let me know.

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I just got my triton 7's yesterday to go along with my new super center xl. Incredible is the only thing i can really say. I have never heard detail like this in any of my many other speaker configurations over the years. Its really amazing the incredible soundstage these little towers can produce. With the super center xl it is a wall of sound like i have never heard before. Now i am deciding which goldenear speakers to get when i upgrade my 3 pair of emotiva erd surrounds. The emotiva surrounds sound great with the goldenears but i wont be satisfied until i get goldenears for the front wides. surrounds and backs. My choice as of now would to get 3 pairs of the aon 2's. I just wonder if that would be more than i need. I know the super sat 30 are less expensive than the aon 2 but it looks like the aon2 are a better value. I am going to look for some used aons. If anybody here is thinking of selling theirs let me know.
The Sevens will only get better as they break in. If you have room and budget for the Aon 2s instead of the SuperSat 3s, it's the way I'd go if I were doing it today. I think the Aons complement the Sevens better, because they go deeper and the midrange sounds fuller. They both use the newer midrange driver technology.

For the record, I have 2x Triton Seven mains, an Aon 3 center and 2x SuperSat 3s in a bedroom system. I started with 3 Aon 3s across the front and 2x SuperSat 3s as surrounds in that system, but switched out the Aon 3s for Sevens. I liked the Sevens so much when I got them for that room that I eventually decided to switch out my Triton Twos in the main home theater for Sevens. I use Sevens as mains and wides in that room, with a SuperCenter XL, two Invisa 650s for surrounds and a couple of older Energy RC-Rs as height channels. I plan to replace the Energys with SuperSat 3s because of space/logistics/power issues.

GE speakers have done more to enhance my enjoyment than any other single thing I've done since I started this home theater hobby.

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Yep, freight is a BI**H. They need to release customs, travel through Chicago, than Kentucky, then broken down, then shipped. I made the cut on the second order from my dealer in Naperville IL, don't hold your breath, but they come they will come Not GE's fault. Just sold the last of my Paradigms, going full GE on my man cave build.




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- Super Center XXL or whatever bigger center channel they decide to come out with
- Triton 7 Surrounds
- Aon 3 Rears
- Invisa MPX or 7000 ceiling, haven't done enough research to determine which


Yes I am drinking the cool aid LOL. It all started when I picked up a pair of Aon 2 for my bedroom.

Congrats! Bob's the best! I picked up mine and the kool aid is awesome!
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The Sevens will only get better as they break in. If you have room and budget for the Aon 2s instead of the SuperSat 3s, it's the way I'd go if I were doing it today. I think the Aons complement the Sevens better, because they go deeper and the midrange sounds fuller. They both use the newer midrange driver technology.

For the record, I have 2x Triton Seven mains, an Aon 3 center and 2x SuperSat 3s in a bedroom system. I started with 3 Aon 3s across the front and 2x SuperSat 3s as surrounds in that system, but switched out the Aon 3s for Sevens. I liked the Sevens so much when I got them for that room that I eventually decided to switch out my Triton Twos in the main home theater for Sevens. I use Sevens as mains and wides in that room, with a SuperCenter XL, two Invisa 650s for surrounds and a couple of older Energy RC-Rs as height channels. I plan to replace the Energys with SuperSat 3s because of space/logistics/power issues.

GE speakers have done more to enhance my enjoyment than any other single thing I've done since I started this home theater hobby.
I may soon agree with you. I have been doing this for about 15 years. I have had 12 projectors, 10 different receivers, 4 multi channel amps and sooo many different speakers that i dont want to think about how much i have spent on them. These GE speakers may be the best value i have ever gotten in all my purchases. I cant imagine how much i would have to spend to get a noticeably better front soundstage than i have now.
By the way i read this entire thread last week and your posts were a large part of why i decided to audition the GE speakers.

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I may soon agree with you. I have been doing this for about 15 years. I have had 12 projectors, 10 different receivers, 4 multi channel amps and sooo many different speakers that i dont want to think about how much i have spent on them. These GE speakers may be the best value i have ever gotten in all my purchases. I cant imagine how much i would have to spend to get a noticeably better front soundstage than i have now.
By the way i read this entire thread last week and your posts were a large part of why i decided to audition the GE speakers.
Twins separated at birth? That sounds so much like my path! It's only a little bit of an exaggeration to say that I went all weak in the knees when I first heard the Sevens. I took one of my Denon receivers over to my dealer's home to audition them (what a great guy). I spent a couple of hours listening to some favorite HDTracks from a USB stick. When I finished, I was flabbergasted to hear Wylie ask if I liked them. I figured the drool would have given it away.

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