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Agreed. People don't think they look good. Well, with your custom finish, that obviously is not the case biggrin.gif I am still loving mine more and more every single day smile.gif

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How do the Danley's mesh with your SEOS?

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Pretty well. They are more efficient for sure, but the SEOS can hold its ground fine. I listen to music only 2ch stereo so I can't comment there, but everything else I have thrown at them, they have all played quite nicely together.

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Pretty well. They are more efficient for sure, but the SEOS can hold its ground fine. I listen to music only 2ch stereo so I can't comment there, but everything else I have thrown at them, they have all played quite nicely together.

Yeah, you say that now until you hear the center that matches!
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Oh for sure, it's just not in the cards for now.

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Danley's website used to host some sound files for demoing their subs, sounds like a harley motorcycle, a freight train, a fireworks display. I somehow lost my copies, and they don't seem to be hosted at Danley's webpage anymore. I emailed them inquiring how I could get them again, but never received a reply. Does anyone have a copy these sound which they could share with me or know how to get them? It would be appreciated.
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^^ PM Tom. He linked in another thread to them, and they are now hosted elsewhere, but I didn't bookmark it sorry.
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Thanks for the heads up, I send him a PM, but it doesn't look like he has been here in awhile.
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Did some new measurements tonight. While not as dead flat as what Audyssey prefers, I have found I really prefer this particular type of rise in the response over the freq spectrum the further down you go. I have the sm60f's backed all the way into the corners of the room and surprisingly have barely any toe in on them at this point. The top end rises accordingly if I do, but once again, I really like this FR for music listening. I had to reset my marantz 8801 for some network issues so I have yet to run an audyssey sweep so far. I can post those graphs once I get around to running the full xt32 8 point calibration. I already know it will drag the 100-1khz area down to flat and that is what I am basically afraid of. Probably better for movies, but when I listen to more music than movies, this response takes the cake.


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Did some new measurements tonight. While not as dead flat as what Audyssey prefers, I have found I really prefer this particular type of rise in the response over the freq spectrum the further down you go. I have the sm60f's backed all the way into the corners of the room and surprisingly have barely any toe in on them at this point. The top end rises accordingly if I do, but once again, I really like this FR for music listening. I had to reset my marantz 8801 for some network issues so I have yet to run an audyssey sweep so far. I can post those graphs once I get around to running the full xt32 8 point calibration. I already know it will drag the 100-1khz area down to flat and that is what I am basically afraid of. Probably better for movies, but when I listen to more music than movies, this response takes the cake.


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Pretty well. They are more efficient for sure, but the SEOS can hold its ground fine. I listen to music only 2ch stereo so I can't comment there, but everything else I have thrown at them, they have all played quite nicely together.


Is their a Danley Seos comparo somewhere...seems like there would be but I have not found it after an hour...?


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P.S. Anyone selling their Danleys?
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P.S. Anyone selling their Danleys?

Thinking about it; SH-50 for LC/RC with SH-69 for CC...

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Is their a Danley Seos comparo somewhere...seems like there would be but I have not found it after an hour...?


Thank You,

P.S. Anyone selling their Danleys?

I have not really compared the two directly, but have owned both. AFAIK, I am the only one with both sets atm. biggrin.gif Comparing them however is quote difficult as you are taking a $500 speaker vs. a $4000 speaker. Obviously the Danley is more refined, but I have to say the SEOS definitely holds its own against it. I continue to use one of my SEOS AE's as a center channel and they actually blend pretty well together

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Beast which SEOS did you build?

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I have the SEOS AE TD12x variant, front slot port tuned to around 40hz, with good extension down to 20hz. Check my sig for the build thread biggrin.gif

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Beast, awesome SEOS build thread, I had not seen that previously. Your impressions speak volumes to the SEOS. It really seems like the SEOS would be the way to go for the $$$$$$$. How would you compare the two at low volumes?

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There really is nothing IMO that can compare, low OR high volumes to the soundstage the Danleys are able to accomplish. With that said, the SEOS still do quite well being a horn design. At moderate volumes they sound very full, and are still very articulate. The benefit they have over the Danley's is they are good to run full range, and have more extension than the Danley's, or other HE designs, so you can use them without a sub or in a dedicated 2 channel setup if you really wanted to. There were many nights where the better half was asleep so I would keep the subs off and listen to the SEOS full range without any issues.
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That's my plan. Danley's are my dream speaker, but I doubt I'll ever be able to afford them in anything other than kit form. So I'm going with the SEOS series when I finally build my HT.

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posted this on the DIY synergy thread with no action...probably more appropriate here.

SH50 vs SM60F in home application. I am seriously considering a LCR set-up with these two options, I am struggling with the benefits of the SH50 vs the SM60F in regards to the low end. From what I have read the and can tell from the specs/FR graphs the units should be very similar throughout the mid-range and upper frequencies with the SM60F having greater high FR extension(can't here much above 17k anyway). With the SM60F it seems with the excess headroom in a home environment that I could EQ/boost the low end around 50HZ(not considering room gain in this theoretical) to get a "flat" response in that area. Maybe this is a bad idea? Obviously I will want to EQ in room anyway.

With the SH50 I could do the same and get "flat" output to 40HZish, again this may not be necessary with room gain.

With this in mind and the fact that I will have a multi-sub setup and not knowing much about room acoustics and speaker interaction at this point, Is their any real advantage of using an SH50 vs the SM60F outside of the obvious cost and size/weight advantages?

Also, if I am thinking about the directivity properly(I am likely not) it would seem that in my 17 x 13.6, 8H listening space with the speakers setup along the short wall that the center channel(not being toed in as the LF/RF will be the SM60F will hit the wall about 1/3 of the way into the room? listening position will be at about 15 feet from front wall or about 13.5 feet from front of speaker.

Perhaps someone who has heard both can comment on the characteristics between these two? Is the SH50 only advantageous for two channel music listening. I am most concerned with music listening.

So SH50 vs SM60F?

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I will let others that have listened to both chime in on that, but what I have heard multiple times is the sh50's are just a little more refined than the sm60f's. What i will say for sure is you don't really want to boost the bottom end to get it flat further than where they are designed, especially if you are going with a multi-sub setup. You will likely be crossing the mains over between 60-100hz to your subs and either of the options you are looking at will be perfectly capable to handling that. If you have a primary focus on 2 channel dedicated you can't really go wrong with either. I listen to mine almost every night for at least a couple songs, and sometimes for a couple hours. I love 'em!!!

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Is $6,500 for the package a fair deal?
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Thinking about it; SH-50 for LC/RC with SH-69 for CC...

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Used or new?

New I would say YES!!!!. WOW that is cheap.
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Used.

Someone a few posts up inquired "was anyone 'thinking' about selling their Danley's".

I've given it some thought, and yeah, I'm probably ready to let them go.

I'm the original owner; they are ~2 years old and have been perched behind an AT screen from day one.

All three units have the integrated touring handles.

I have the original shipping cartons (less skids) and packaging materials.

I will list them this weekend.

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I have a few questions for you SH-50 owners.

I would like some info on two of the SH-50's "phenomenon"

If I have understand correctly the SH-50 sounds like the sound is coming further back from behind the speaker. How does that sound when they are behind a acoustic transparent screen with movies?
I mean does it sound like the sound is really further away than the picture?

Secondly Tom himself have wrote that if you put your head inside the horn you still can't hear where the sound is coming from. Is this the same "phenomenon"?

And I understand that the SH-50 has a huge soundstage but with these "phenomenon" how is the depth/imaging?.
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Used.

Someone a few posts up inquired "was anyone 'thinking' about selling their Danley's".

I've given it some thought, and yeah, I'm probably ready to let them go.

I'm the original owner; they are ~2 years old and have been perched behind an AT screen from day one.

All three units have the integrated touring handles.

I have the original shipping cartons (less skids) and packaging materials.

I will list them this weekend.

Larry

Are you upgrading or life getting in the way? Just curious why you are letting them go?
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Yeah, essentially life getting in the way - I mean, changing priorities for the kids:-)
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I hear ya. I have four myself. Want to own some DSL SH's but just cant afford them right now. A trip to Atlanta will be my first purchase though. Either way it looks like a good deal for anyone wanting DSL SH's.
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So long time DIYer here, just ordered a pair of DSL SM60F. I am still working on my tube+horn based audio system, but my HT system will be the SM60F (no center, not needed in my setup).
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Awesome man!!!! You will love them!

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