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snigity snype's Avatar snigity snype
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Hello all AVS members.

I am trying to build a HT system for my parents. They purchased a samsung 46 HDTV which i mounted on the wall, now they are ready for some surround sound.
If i leave this up to them they will buy a cheapy HTIB and from my prior experience as a audio/video installer for tweeter i know piecing together a system usually yields better results.

Budget
-$500-800max receiver/5 speakers/sub

Specs
-5.1 System
-wall mountable speakers (could go with 2 freestanding front's but the surround and center need to be wall mountable)
-only thing thats will be hooked up is a HD cable box/DVD player (they might upgrade to a Blue ray down the road)

since i have been out of the audio/video loop for over 6 years i hope you guys/gals can give me your 2 cents.

This is what i've been thinking
Onkyo TX-SR607 $399 new egg (free ship)
Infinity Primus theater II $297.50 ebay (free ship)
Polk Audio PSW-10 $99 new egg (free ship)

That is pushing the envelope, so much i doubt i will be able to convince them to spend that much with tax and cables etc...

Any and all recommendations are welcome

Thank You
-Brian
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consider the Onkyo SR507 or HC-160 to save a few bucks (still does HD audio over HDMI) on the receiver.

the Infinity Primus theater II set from "gear4less" on the Bay looks like a great deal.

the weak link is probably the Polk PSW-10, but at the price it will work for movie soundtracks, but be relatively weak for music.

Interconnect and speaker cables from www.monoprice.com
snigity snype's Avatar snigity snype
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Thank you for the response.I will look into those receivers to save a few bucks, seems like it could bring my sub budget up to $150

The system is going to be used for tv and movies 98% of the time, and if they listen to music it wont be at any roaring levels.

keep the suggestions coming
rick240's Avatar rick240
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If you have a max $800 budget, I would suggest:

- $200 - 250 AVR (go for an older model, consider refurbed and used to save money), for Cable and DVD you don't need bells and whistles

- $200 - 250 sub (look into Dayton subs at Parts Express); many threads in the subwoofer area talking about budget subs

- $300 - 400 speakers (the more money you can direct here the better)
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I agree with Rick but would spend even less on the AVR. I highly doubt your parents will notice/care about lossless HD audio which they would only get from Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray will still sound much better than DVD without going to HD audio.

With the advent of HDMI, older non HDMI AVRs are considered old and are greatly discounted. Models from 3 years ago that were $1000 can be found for almost nothing. I would go used or refurbished for what they need.

I would spend the least amount possible for an AVR and put as much as possible into speakers/sub.
snigity snype's Avatar snigity snype
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can you name me a few of these older receivers? will they be able to tell the difference from HDMI straight to the tv vs component through the avr receiver(picture quality) .
snigity snype's Avatar snigity snype
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how about one of these
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1841087
rick240's Avatar rick240
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can you name me a few of these older receivers?

Onkyos that end in a 6 or 5 instead of 7

Marantz that end in a 1 or 2 instead of 4

Yamaha that end in a 3 instead of 5

If they are willing to upgrade the receiver when they go Blu-ray consider this Yamaha 365 at $145.

If not, then the Onkyo 507 suggested above (newegg deal at $300 NOW) is a good choice

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will they be able to tell the difference from HDMI straight to the tv vs component through the avr receiver(picture quality) .

Depends on the upconversion. I don't know how good the Samsung is, so it depends what receiver you find and which is better.

Here's a link to Energy Take Classic for $220.

Check the subwoofer area for discussion about F12 vs H100 vs PA-120 for a sub in $200 - $275 range.


So, ultra low cost system:
- Yamaha 365, $150
- Dayton Sub-100 or Sub-120 (both out of stock until March 9), $100 - $150
- Energy Take Classic, $220
snigity snype's Avatar snigity snype
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How does this sound??

Denon AVR-1505 $146 shipped
Infinity Primus theater II $297.50 ebay (free ship)
BIC Venturi V1020 10" Powered Subwoofer 160W $156 shipped


seems like a nice little system for $600

If i could come in under $700 with all the connectors it would be huge.
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Onkyos that end in a 6 or 5 instead of 7

Here's a link to Energy Take Classic for $220.

the same system for 180 free shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882269004
rick240's Avatar rick240
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How does this sound??

Denon AVR-1505 $146 shipped
Infinity Primus theater II $297.50 ebay (free ship)
BIC Venturi V1020 10" Powered Subwoofer 160W $156 shipped


seems like a nice little system for $600

If i could come in under $700 with all the connectors it would be huge.

Suggestion:

- get that Denon for $146
- get the Bic F12, for $180 for BLT
- get the Energy for $180 from Newegg
snigity snype's Avatar snigity snype
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so you guys think the energy take 5 5.0 is a better system than the infinity primus II 5.0??
RonaldoCombs's Avatar RonaldoCombs
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so you guys think the energy take 5 5.0 is a better system than the infinity primus II 5.0??

I don't, but is it worth the extra $100? To me it might be b/c going down to 100hz is better than 120hz, but I am a crazy person who spends as much as I can on speakers...

Ron
rick240's Avatar rick240
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so you guys think the energy take 5 5.0 is a better system than the infinity primus II 5.0??

They are both well regarded and enjoyed by those who buy them (based solely on reading threads here, I personally have heard neither). I would search through threads here to get comparison opinions (waiting for someone to show up in this thread who has heard both could be frustrating).

But the Energy is well regarded and at $180 is $100 less than the Infinity.
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FYI - cables / connectors should be less than 50 bucks at the MOST, go to monoprice.com (forum sponsor) and get everything there. With only a cable box and a DVD player, how many cables do you need? I imagine the cable box probably came with an HDMI or component cable included, right? So you just need some speaker wire, a digital audio cable or two, and maybe a couple of HDMI's or comp video cables?

I agree with most of the advice above: don't overspend for the receiver if your parents aren't "audiophiles", I know my parents couldn't care less as long as it is better than the TV speakers, so they have an entry-level, non-HDMI Onkyo 304 and it works just fine.
snigity snype's Avatar snigity snype
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Alright i pulled the trigger

Denon AVR-1805
Infinity Primus Theater 2 5.0
Formula F-12 (backordered)

Let you know how everything turns out.

Thanks Again!!!!
-Brian
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Alright i pulled the trigger

Denon AVR-1805
Infinity Primus Theater 2 5.0
Formula F-12 (backordered)

Let you know how everything turns out.

Thanks Again!!!!
-Brian

Your parents will definitely appreciate what you have done for them.
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