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I did see a couple of postings asking similar question, but no answers. I am looking for options so that I can go to a store and listen to them before buying.

Thanks a lot for your help!
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How many speakers are you looking for and does that price include a subwoofer?

You left a lot of stuff out.

1. How big is the room?
2. How many speakers? Sub included?
3. What type of speakers (i.e. floor standing, bookshelf, satellite)
4. Listening prefences? (movies, music, gaming, tv?)

It'll be a lot easier to help you with a little more info.

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Absolute Sound called these the best $1k speakers, but they cost far less.

http://www.nhthifi.com/site/pdf/TAS-FEB07-THREE.pdf

This is simply my opinion though.
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I've heard those Classic 3's and I really like them. But we still have no idea if the OP is looking for 2 speakers, a 5.1 setup or what?

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I've heard those Classic 3's and I really like them. But we still have no idea if the OP is looking for 2 speakers, a 5.1 setup or what?

True. I love my Classic 3's, and they're priced right.
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How many speakers are you looking for and does that price include a subwoofer?

You left a lot of stuff out.

1. How big is the room?
2. How many speakers? Sub included?
3. What type of speakers (i.e. floor standing, bookshelf, satellite)
4. Listening prefences? (movies, music, gaming, tv?)

It'll be a lot easier to help you with a little more info.

Hi,

Sorry for not being clear enough. Here are the answers:

1. How big is the room?
- Around 15x22

2. How many speakers? Sub included?
- I have a 7.1 receiver and would at least prefer to have a 5.1 speaker set (yes sub included). 7.1 may be a stretch this time because of the space in the room.

3. What type of speakers (i.e. floor standing, bookshelf, satellite)
- I need something with high WAF as well as due to space limitations, would prefer bookshelf of satellite. It's an apartment so not much room for stuff.

4. Listening prefences? (movies, music, gaming, tv?)
- Actually Blue-ray over PS3, Gaming and Music

Thanks for your help!
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Another thing that I left out was what should be the sensitivity and frequency range I should be looking at?

I have a Denon AVR-1911
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Absolute Sound called these the best $1k speakers, but they cost far less.

http://www.nhthifi.com/site/pdf/TAS-FEB07-THREE.pdf

This is simply my opinion though.

How do those compare to something like the Ascend Sierra-1? The pricing is very close.
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The SBS-01 system with powered sub is $999
http://www.svsound.com/products-sys-sbs_black.cfm

You could put together a HTD package with 2 pair Level TWO bookshelf speakers, center channel and sub under $1000. They come in 3 colors, black, dark cherry and light cherry.
http://www.htd.com/cabinet-speakers/...shelf-Speakers


Don't know your wife so not sure if she wants a sub that big or speakers that size or style.

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The SBS-01 system with powered sub is $999
http://www.svsound.com/products-sys-sbs_black.cfm

You could put together a HTD package with 2 pair Level TWO bookshelf speakers, center channel and sub under $1000. They come in 3 colors, black, dark cherry and light cherry.
http://www.htd.com/cabinet-speakers/...shelf-Speakers


Don't know your wife so not sure if she wants a sub that big or speakers that size or style.

Thanks for your reply. Are these good speakers? High WAF for me = Bose style sizes. l only have access to BestBuy and Frys as far as I know (northern California, Bay Area). If you can recommend some other stores that I may not be aware of, please do let me know.

Thanks!

I know about SVS but never got a chance to hear them in a store. I on
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Plenty of stores in the Bay area. Also check Magnolia A/V, they still have a couple showrooms in the Bay Area. One in San Ramon and one in Santa Clara.

Check Video Only too.

There's a bunch of independent A/V dealers too. Just google Bay Area audio video stores.

If you're looking at Bose size satellite speakers look at Energy speakers, Klipsch, Definitive Technology, Mirage, Gallo, Polk and others. Magnolia A/V or Best Buy Magnolia Home Theatre carry many of these brands.

Something like this may please your wife but I'd opt for something a little bigger in that size room.
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_732RCMI...gy+micro&ssi=0

or this
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...procinema-60-6

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Cool, thanks ... I will check out the stores and try to figure out which speakers I like ...
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By the way, how do Polk, Klipsch, Vienna and Definitive measure upto the SVS and HTD for this price range?
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How about Mirage MX51?

Also, considering my budget is about $1000 and the suggested speakers are about $400-600, should I save the money or get better speakers.

I understand that I should spend 2/3 of the money on speakers and 1/3 on receiver. My receiver is about $600 retail ... thats where I came up with $1000 ($1200 actually) budget for speakers.

I do not intend to replace the speakers for a while even when/if I move to a bigger place ...

Thanks!
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You have too much space for most satelite based systems like the Mirage

I would suggest at least a bookshelved based system with a decent sub woofer

If you are willing to spend $1200 I'd suggest 2 pair of Energy RC-10 bookshelf
and Energy RC-Mini center channel and spend the rest on a subwoofer from SVS, HSU, Bic
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I would also recommend the Energy RC-10 since that's what I own. But he said his wife wants small Bose type speakers. I agree he needs something bigger than sat speakers.

At minimum he should get RC minis as he can get 5 of those for $640 using code EMPLOYEE from electronics expo.
http://www.electronics-expo.com/make...CMINIBK/1.html

But I'd prefer that he get at least gets RC-10s up front.

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I did see a couple of postings asking similar question, but no answers. I am looking for options so that I can go to a store and listen to them before buying.

Thanks a lot for your help!

Look around for this M&K system. I've heard them a large, open area and were very nice. Although larger, somewhat "Bose like" in appearance.
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Here's another option, take your wife shopping with you. There are several tower speakers which would be very appealing to her. Get two towers and center or sub.

Something like these Mirage OMD15 towers which are reduced from $1200 to 400 each.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

they also come in Rosewood
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

Next option is Energy CF-30 towers, CC-5 center and CB-5 bookshelf speakers. Electronics expo has the discount code EMPLOYEE and you can get almost $1k of speakers for just over $500. You can actually see/listen to these at Best Buy.

I just dont think satellite speakers are going to work in that size room which is why I'm pointing out other options.

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Hey Guys,

First of all I must say you guys are awesome, especially "afrogt". I really appreciate your concern and time for the nice suggestions. It makes my life easier.

I will go and check these out at the local store.

Another question I had was about the quality of build and sound of these speakers, there are some brand that are known to me (better marketing I guess) and some others that I only got to know through this wonderful forum. Money apart, are there any specific brand that have been consistent in sound quality and reliability?

I bought Denon receiver (initially considering Denon, Pionner, Onkyo and Yamaha) mainly because most of the reviews for that price range (400-800) were pro-Denon (onkyo's heating issue, Yamaha's feature set limitations etc.

So I would like to know what is the most preferred brand of speakers among people on the forums for my price range. Again, Bose had a high WAF but I only heard bad things about them on this forum, so I dropped the consideration for that brand.
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There is no one most preferred brand. Lots of good brands in your price range including Energy, Paradigm, Def Tech, Mirage, Polk, JBL, Infinity, Klipsch, Jamo, PSB, Ascend, Axiom, SVS, HSU and many others.

You need to go out and listen to as many brands as possible to see what you like.

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Also, what should be the ideal wattage for the subwoofer for this system and room size.
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hard to say what an ideal wattage would be for a sub.

But a good small sub would be something like the Emotiva Ultra 10. Its a 10" subwoofer with a 200 watt amp. Best thing is the small dimensions which shoud please the wife.
12.5” wide x 12.5” high x 13.5” deep
http://emotiva.com/ultra_sub10.shtm

Its bigger brother the Ultra 12 cost about $100 more and has a 300 watt amp. Dimensions are 14.5” wide x 14.5” high x 15.25” deep
http://emotiva.com/ultra_sub12.shtm

With the lowered prices and free shipping these are one of the better sub deals going right now.

Mirage makes some nice stylish subs with high gloss finishes that the little lady make like.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

The Emotiva will probably give you a little more output for the money though.

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How do those compare to something like the Ascend Sierra-1? The pricing is very close.

I've never auditioned the Ascend Sierras. Sorry.
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Here's a store in San Fran, don't let them sell you any wires but they have good speakers, including my faves for WAF - era, if you go be sure to audition revel's concerta: http://www.musicloversaudio.com/prod....php/speakers/

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You have too much space for most satelite based systems like the Mirage

I would suggest at least a bookshelved based system with a decent sub woofer

If you are willing to spend $1200 I'd suggest 2 pair of Energy RC-10 bookshelf
and Energy RC-Mini center channel and spend the rest on a subwoofer from SVS, HSU, Bic

Hi, I went to a local store and heard the Energy CB-10's and CB-20. I liked the CB-20's over Def. Tech and some others. They don't carry RC-10's but I am sure they will be better than the CB-20's. Any idea how big those are compared to CB-20's?

Also, do I really need RC-10 for Surrounds, the guy at the store said you will be wasting your money by putting CB-20's at the back ... do you guys recommend the same speakers in front and back?

Thanks a lot again for all the help so far ... I am very close to buying Energy's for the front and center ... still deciding on back and sub ...

Speaking of which, I checked out the Klipsch Subs, man they are pretty hugh and I don't think I will be allowed to buy them

I saw Klipsch KSW-10 10-Inch 225 Watt Subwoofer on newegg for $199 with $50 gift card ... is that a good woofer ... also asthetically, having Energy speakers with Klipsch woofer won't look bad or will it?

I also need advice on the wires to connect receiver and speakers.

I know I am asking too much from your guys but I can really use some help!

Thanks a lot.
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Size-wise the RC-10 and CB-20 are pretty close. Sound wise, the RC-10 blows the CB-20 away. Warmer and more balanced sounding that the bright CB-20. Build quality isn't close either. The CB-20 looks cheap comparatively speaking.

You dont need RC-10s for rear speakers but for the price of RC Minis, you might as well get another pair of RC-10s. Cheapest I've seen the black RC mini is $127ea. You can get the RC-10 for $299 pair or less. Not much of a price difference, maybe $40/pr.

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Size-wise the RC-10 and CB-20 are pretty close. Sound wise, the RC-10 blows the CB-20 away. Warmer and more balanced sounding that the bright CB-20. Build quality isn't close either. The CB-20 looks cheap comparatively speaking.

You dont need RC-10s for rear speakers but for the price of RC Minis, you might as well get another pair of RC-10s. Cheapest I've seen the black RC mini is $127ea. You can get the RC-10 for $299 pair or less. Not much of a price difference, maybe $40/pr.

So I should get RC-10 (two pair) for front and back and RC-Mini for the center? Where did you see RC-10's for < $300 and RC-Mini for $127? I checked Vanns but they are pricier than these prices I think I want to setup 5 channel first and based on space, sound quality and WAF I will move forward with Sub. By the way Emotiva looks good, hope it is good quality sub (never heard of them, but I am a novice anyways) and matches well with Energy Speakers.

I am also assuming RC-R's ($325 each) are not going to be as good as RC-10's?

One more thing about the wall mounting for RC-10's, I am in an apartment with Dry-Wall, does it sound like a good idea at all? Otherwise please recommend some good stands and wire/cables to connect the Receivers-Speakers.

Thanks a lot again!
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First of all I must say you guys are awesome, especially "afrogt".

Yeah, afrogt is a little TOO helpful. I'm in a similar situation to you, but with a smaller room. Twice now I thought I decided what speakers and setup to buy, then he posts another great deal/sale that's going on somewhere, and I get excited by the fresh new bargains... followed by confusion about what to buy... then more excitement... then more confusion.

LOL...

Seriously, I need to decide on something soon. And this thread has added a couple more items to consider.

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Something like these Mirage OMD15 towers which are reduced from $1200 to 400 each.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

they also come in Rosewood
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

Those $1200/each Mirage OMD15 towers discounted to $399/each seems like a steal.

Still, that's $800 for just the 2 front speakers. The matching center is $300, surrounds almost $200 each, and not to mention a subwoofer. The OMD-15's appear to be an excellent bargain for $800 pair, but you could still spend $1700+ total piecing together a matching Mirage 5.1 setup.

But if $1,000-$1200 price is our bottom line, I wonder if 2 higher quality front speakers (like the OMD-15's) plus a sub (2.1), would give us more 'overall' satisfaction than a 5.1 surround sound setup of the same price, since the 5 speakers in such a system would be less powerful and lower quality??

One day at a time...
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So I should get RC-10 (two pair) for front and back and RC-Mini for the center?
Thanks a lot again!

I don't understand the reasoning for using the RC-Mini (or any mini) for a Center when this is where most of your dialogue is going to come from - IMO the Center Channel and Sub are the most important in the setup in achieving what I call depth and HT feel and an excellent matching Center that's of the highest quality is imperative for all 5.1 listening.

What does Energy recommend for your CC? I just saw a review where Energy Support recommended the Energy CC-10 Center Channel Speaker.

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I don't understand the reasoning for using the RC-Mini (or any mini) for a Center when this is where most of your dialogue is going to come from - IMO the Center Channel and Sub are the most important in the setup in achieving what I call depth and HT feel and an excellent matching Center that's of the highest quality is imperative for all 5.1 listening.

What does Energy recommend for your CC? I just saw a review where Energy Support recommended the Energy CC-10 Center Channel Speaker.

Hi,

I think you are confusing Energy RC-Mini Center (http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...nter-overview/) with RC-Mini (http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...mini-overview/). I think partially it is my fault because I should have mentioned it is th RC-Mini "Center" not just RC-Mini.

Energy has the following Center channels speakers:

http://www.energy-speakers.com/na-en...enter-speaker/

Out of these I would prefer RC series ...

I somehow like the specs on RC-Mini Center, I haven't auditioned them yet (hoping to do that today).
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