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I guess there's that too. I was worried about messing up the sound of the speaker by drilling into it!
Wont bother it if you use short screws and place them properly.
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Wont bother it if you use short screws and place them properly.
I think I'll probably end up going with this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...5525584&sr=1-1
and just pointing the speakers directly at each other. The speakers are a bit larger than the platform (Suitable for speakers no larger than 5.9 inches x 7.87 inches (15cm x 20cm) on the side for shelf, while these are ~ 7.13in x 8.44in), but I plan on putting some heavy duty velcro on there to keep everything in its place! The couch is on the rear wall, so they will be mounted just below the ceiling on the rear wall, facing each other over the couch. I have heard some people say to angle the speakers at the listener, and others say to keep them straight. I know that mount will work, so I might as well just go with that and hope it sounds good! It does swivel 360 deg, so I can play around with that and bouncing it off the rear/side walls and whatnot! It should at least sound better than the current setup I have (speakers on my tv!)
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I think I'll probably end up going with this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...5525584&sr=1-1
and just pointing the speakers directly at each other. The speakers are a bit larger than the platform (Suitable for speakers no larger than 5.9 inches x 7.87 inches (15cm x 20cm) on the side for shelf, while these are ~ 7.13in x 8.44in), but I plan on putting some heavy duty velcro on there to keep everything in its place! The couch is on the rear wall, so they will be mounted just below the ceiling on the rear wall, facing each other over the couch. I have heard some people say to angle the speakers at the listener, and others say to keep them straight. I know that mount will work, so I might as well just go with that and hope it sounds good! It does swivel 360 deg, so I can play around with that and bouncing it off the rear/side walls and whatnot! It should at least sound better than the current setup I have (speakers on my tv!)
I vote for angling them at the listener.
Look at "Blutack" at Amazon. Holds the speaker really well. Not as permanent as velcro and leaves no adhesive residue on anything.
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I vote for angling them at the listener.
Look at "Blutack" at Amazon. Holds the speaker really well. Not as permanent as velcro and leaves no adhesive residue on anything.
3m command strips work well to
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I just had a wonderful Idea!!!!!!! I have at my disposal a Laser cutter!! http://www.epiloglaser.com/products/...ser-series.htm

I'm going to draw something up and laser cut some wood to make an angled bracket that I can mount on top of that swivel mount I posted before. I figure I can net myself about an 15-18 degree angle. AND I can make my bracket match the shape of the speakers perfectly! I can then screw that bracket into the mount, and I'm good to go with a nice secure bracket...that fits on my wall!
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Anyone here compared these to the Infinity Primus line? Those are a couple I am debating between and there seems to be some mixed information about which are better. My use will be mainly movies and TV.
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After reading all of the great reviews on these speakers, I picked up a set (LCR) of the towers "just in case" for my home theater. They sat new in their boxes for months, but just recently, someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse on my existing Paradigm setup. I dropped these in until my new $peakers came in, and I was really pleased. Now granted I've got a pretty good sub woofer, but honestly, after playing around with their location a bit (actually more flexible because they are smaller) and running EQ, I can't really tell much of a difference between $360 worth of FS52s and $6K+ worth of Paradigms in the front! My wife (didn't know the paradigms were gone) actually asked if I had dome something new as the theater sounded much better....

Pick up 3 matching ones with a sub and give it a try!
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After reading all of the great reviews on these speakers, I picked up a set (LCR) of the towers "just in case" for my home theater. They sat new in their boxes for months, but just recently, someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse on my existing Paradigm setup. I dropped these in until my new $peakers came in, and I was really pleased. Now granted I've got a pretty good sub woofer, but honestly, after playing around with their location a bit (actually more flexible because they are smaller) and running EQ, I can't really tell much of a difference between $360 worth of FS52s and $6K+ worth of Paradigms in the front! My wife (didn't know the paradigms were gone) actually asked if I had dome something new as the theater sounded much better....

Pick up 3 matching ones with a sub and give it a try!
I want to make sure I am understanding you correctly. Are you 3 52's as the front right, center, and front left? What is the subwoofer you are using? No 22's for the rears?
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I want to make sure I am understanding you correctly. Are you 3 52's as the front right, center, and front left? What is the subwoofer you are using? No 22's for the rears?
Correct. 3 FS52s behind an AT screen with a Velodyne DD15 sub. I kept the Paradigm surrounds. The wood in the signature series just look gorgeous on my theater walls...and they are the only speakers you see.

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Pick up 3 matching ones with a sub and give it a try!
I love the sound of three FS52s up front. Unfortunately that won't work for me right now because my TV sits on a stand that is too low to place a tower front/center. (I'm running FS52 rears because I want to avoid stands or wall mounts.) And your advice about the sub is spot on. Adding a truly competent subwoofer to the mix makes these speakers glow. When I upgraded to an SVS (SB-2000) the overall sound improved to such a degree, it seemed as though I had bought all new speakers.
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I love the sound of three FS52s up front. Unfortunately that won't work for me right now because my TV sits on a stand that is too low to place a tower front/center. (I'm running FS52 rears because I want to avoid stands or wall mounts.) And your advice about the sub is spot on. Adding a truly competent subwoofer to the mix makes these speakers glow. When I upgraded to an SVS (SB-2000) the overall sound improved to such a degree, it seemed as though I had bought all new speakers.
What sub did you have before the SVS SB-2000?
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What sub did you have before the SVS SB-2000?
Klipsch Synergy 12.
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I just had a wonderful Idea!!!!!!! I have at my disposal a Laser cutter!! http://www.epiloglaser.com/products/...ser-series.htm

I'm going to draw something up and laser cut some wood to make an angled bracket that I can mount on top of that swivel mount I posted before. I figure I can net myself about an 15-18 degree angle. AND I can make my bracket match the shape of the speakers perfectly! I can then screw that bracket into the mount, and I'm good to go with a nice secure bracket...that fits on my wall!
Spent all last night making up my template. Cut the wood today with the laser! (that thing is awesome!) Here's my final outcome! Unless I measured incorrectly, this should JUST BARELY miss my ceiling!
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Spent all last night making up my template. Cut the wood today with the laser! (that thing is awesome!) Here's my final outcome! Unless I measured incorrectly, this should JUST BARELY miss my ceiling!
Cool! Might as well make your own speakers while you are at it
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Here's an anecdote for everyone invested in quality audio:

This morning, for reasons I won't annoy you with, I saw an ear/nose/throat specialist for the first time in my life. As part of the exam, the doctor offered to clean my ears (though I wasn't there for a hearing problem). "Why not?" I answered, and doc proceeded with a quick, painless flush. He informed me afterwards that my right ear was, in the language of his specialty, "gunked up." Ewww!

Voila, when I returned home and switched on some music, I noticed immediately that the audio balance seemed much improved. Upgrade! And I hadn't spent a dollar (on audio equipment, that is).

Moral of story: No matter how much you spend, no matter how much you tweak, your system is only as good as your ears.
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Cool! Might as well make your own speakers while you are at it
if I could get better quality for cheaper i would!! Those stands though were made from $3 worth of MDF board I had leftover from a birthday present I made for my wife!


also... I'm not an electrical engineer or audio engineer, so id have no clue where to even start!!!
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if I could get better quality for cheaper i would!! Those stands though were made from $3 worth of MDF board I had leftover from a birthday present I made for my wife!

also... I'm not an electrical engineer or audio engineer, so id have no clue where to even start!!!

I would start here!
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-diy-speakers-subs/
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Pioneer One Day Sale at Fry's

Fry's has a one day sale on Andrew Jones speakers. Ends today Thursday 7/24. In Store Only!

FS-52 $69 each
BS-22 $70/pr
C22 $50

The also have the first series speakers on sale too.
FS-51 $130/pr
BS-41 $99/pr
C21 $59

SW-8-K 8" Subwoofer $80
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Fry's has a one day sale on Andrew Jones speakers. Ends today Thursday 7/24. In Store Only!

FS-52 $69 each
BS-22 $70/pr
C22 $50

The also have the first series speakers on sale too.
FS-51 $130/pr
BS-41 $99/pr
C21 $59

SW-8-K 8" Subwoofer $80
It's times like these I wish I lived near a Frys. Sweet deal.
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Fry's has a one day sale on Andrew Jones speakers. Ends today Thursday 7/24. In Store Only!

FS-52 $69 each
BS-22 $70/pr
C22 $50

The also have the first series speakers on sale too.
FS-51 $130/pr
BS-41 $99/pr
C21 $59

SW-8-K 8" Subwoofer $80
I continue to be amazed that there remain Series 1 speakers still in the retail pipeline.
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Dang. Wish Amazon would price match the CS22 today ....
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Dang. Wish Amazon would price match the CS22 today ....
You can try the "submit a lower price" option on the product page on amazon.
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You can try the "submit a lower price" option on the product page on amazon.
You mean the "tell us about a lower price" feedback option? Huh. Never tried that.

OK. Gave it a go.
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A few of the times Fry's ran this promotion, Amazon lowered their prices too after a few hours it seemed
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A few of the times Fry's ran this promotion, Amazon lowered their prices too after a few hours it seemed
Someone probably submitted it. On any product page, you can notify Amazon of a lower price somewhere else.

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That's why I love this forum. I'm always learning stuff!

Anyway, I submitted it so we'll see what happens.
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This Fry's deal is the same type of in-store promotion that led Amazon to lower their price on the FS-52s to $60 last December, if only for a few hours. It might have been a mistake on the part of Amazon, but I'm glad I happened to be online at the time.
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Anyway, I submitted it so we'll see what happens.
It's always worth a shot.

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I'm just going to say that these Pioneer speakers (at full price) are the best deal in home audio. That said, this Frys sale is a steal.


Seriously I think you have to spend about 800-1000 on a speaker pair to get something better than these.


One man's opinion and all that.
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I'm just going to say that these Pioneer speakers (at full price) are the best deal in home audio.
Last night I was doing some system checking. In the process I switched my front FS52s to basic stereo mode; no subwoofer, surrounds or center. I had forgotten how good they sound as stand-alone, full range speakers for music even at high volume levels. Yeah!
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