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Picked up some SB22's and matching center for basically a song from Amazon. I have them mated up to a Denon E300 and Dayton Sub-1200 subwoofer. For the money I am completely astonished at how good they sound!! These speakers are definitely the real deal and sound much much better than they cost. I will be recommending these for people looking for speakers on a tight budget for sure.
A 4" woofer on these, really How did Jones do it???




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Picked up some SB22's and matching center for basically a song from Amazon. I have them mated up to a Denon E300 and Dayton Sub-1200 subwoofer. For the money I am completely astonished at how good they sound!! These speakers are definitely the real deal and sound much much better than they cost. I will be recommending these for people looking for speakers on a tight budget for sure.
A 4" woofer on these, really How did Jones do it???
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Hey guys, I tried searching but didn't find much.... trying to figure out ceiling mount options for the BS22s...

I'm upgrading an older Onkyo HTIB 7.1 system... I've already replaced the front towers and center with FS52s and a CS22 respectively... the side and back surrounds are still the Onkyos though as I haven't yet found a reasonable way to mount the BS22s in their place.




Currently the Onkyos (physically much smaller and capable of having screws drilled into them) are mounted sideways on the side walls using a U-shaped metal bracket just slightly wider open than the speaker is long with a screw in the top and bottom of the speaker... and the rears are mounted from the ceiling behind the center couch angled downward using the same sort of brackets.


I've seen some wall-mount clamp/shelf options that might work for the sides... but there's no way whatsoever we can do anything other than ceiling mount for the rears.... the back wall is another 20 feet behind (the living room is open to the kitchen)- and we can't put stands there- apart from pets knocking them over it'd directly block the path through the living room to the backyard doors.


So anybody got a good solution for this? Thanks.
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When did you see them for $79.99? It's been $129.99 every time I've checked.
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When did you see them for $79.99?
In the "TECHNOWONDERS WEEKENDERS" email for Deals which expired at 23:59 PT on Sun 14 Dec 2014.

It seems that the first series speakers continue to be manufactured and sold by NewEgg at the discount prices you see mentioned in this thread: enough that I stopped posting each time I saw one, making an exception for the SP-BS41-LR since everyone deserves a chance to enjoy a SP-FS91-LR.
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In the "TECHNOWONDERS WEEKENDERS" email for Deals which expired at 23:59 PT on Sun 14 Dec 2014.

It seems that the first series speakers continue to be manufactured and sold by NewEgg at the discount prices you see mentioned in this thread: enough that I stopped posting each time I saw one, making an exception for the SP-BS41-LR since everyone deserves a chance to enjoy a SP-FS91-LR.
OK, I must have missed that one since I get their daily emails.
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hey all, trying to put together my first 'budget-priced' 2.1 audio/home theater system for my average-sized living room. my first concern is with sound quality for music, with tv/movie use being secondary. (i'll only be connecting a cable box and a roku or ps4.)

i already bought a pair of SP-BS22-LRs new, which i'll put on speaker stands on each side of my plasma TV. i'm thinking of completing the system with the following:

-- something like the SW-8MK2 sub from the same andrew jones/pioneer line (i live in an apartment, so i can't really push it very loud); and
-- the yamaha RX-V377BL receiver, which is currently about $220 at best buy.

any reason to do something different, or will this be solid? thanks in advance!
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hey all, trying to put together my first 'budget-priced' 2.1 audio/home theater system for my average-sized living room. my first concern is with sound quality for music, with tv/movie use being secondary. (i'll only be connecting a cable box and a roku or ps4.)

i already bought a pair of SP-BS22-LRs new, which i'll put on speaker stands on each side of my plasma TV. i'm thinking of completing the system with the following:

-- something like the SW-8MK2 sub from the same andrew jones/pioneer line (i live in an apartment, so i can't really push it very loud); and
-- the yamaha RX-V377BL receiver, which is currently about $220 at best buy.

any reason to do something different, or will this be solid? thanks in advance!
The speakers are a great choice, and due to your living conditions, your sub of choice will have to do. I wouldn't purchase the 377 for $220 from Best Buy. Your money can go a lot further IMO. I would get either the Denon e-300 for $159 (not including shipping) or the Denon x1000 for $219 with free shipping from accessories4less.com. These have 1 year warranties, but you can purchase extended ones for very cheap from their website. I don't know about Yamaha's warranty, but I would pick these Denons all day over the Yamaha you are considering. Just a thought.
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awesome, thanks, i'll take a look at those receivers. just out of curiosity, what's the advantage of the denon - just a more reliable brand than yamaha, or more features, or better sound quality, etc.?
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awesome, thanks, i'll take a look at those receivers. just out of curiosity, what's the advantage of the denon - just a more reliable brand than yamaha, or more features, or better sound quality, etc.?
Certainly not more reliable. I'm curious as well.
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awesome, thanks, i'll take a look at those receivers. just out of curiosity, what's the advantage of the denon - just a more reliable brand than yamaha, or more features, or better sound quality, etc.?
For the sound quality. Both the E300 and X1000 have Audssey, which Yamaha does not. It has YPAO, but it's not able to equalize the subwoofer which is a big advantage to have. I think Denons tend to sound warmer as well. In terms of reliability, I'm not sure you could discredit Denon. They make good products.
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For the sound quality. Both the E300 and X1000 have Audssey, which Yamaha does not. It has YPAO, but it's not able to equalize the subwoofer which is a big advantage to have. I think Denons tend to sound warmer as well. In terms of reliability, I'm not sure you could discredit Denon. They make good products.
There are different versions of Audyssey. The X1000 will eq the sub. The E300 will not.
Warm is subjective and is most often due to the speakers rather than the receiver.

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These have 1 year warranties, but you can purchase extended ones for very cheap from their website. I don't know about Yamaha's warranty)
The Yamahas have a 2 year factory warranty.
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There are different versions of Audyssey. The X1000 will eq the sub. The E300 will not.
Warm is subjective and is most often due to the speakers rather than the receiver.
That's where you are wrong. It will eq the sub
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hey all, trying to put together my first 'budget-priced' 2.1 audio/home theater system for my average-sized living room. my first concern is with sound quality for music, with tv/movie use being secondary. (i'll only be connecting a cable box and a roku or ps4.)

i already bought a pair of SP-BS22-LRs new, which i'll put on speaker stands on each side of my plasma TV. i'm thinking of completing the system with the following:

-- something like the SW-8MK2 sub from the same andrew jones/pioneer line (i live in an apartment, so i can't really push it very loud); and
-- the yamaha RX-V377BL receiver, which is currently about $220 at best buy.

any reason to do something different, or will this be solid? thanks in advance!

Skip the pioneer sub and get a Dayton Sub1200 for $99 from parts express...

and at some point when space allows you might consider moving to a 5.1 system by moving those BS22s to the back and getting FS52s for the front (better speakers for music too) and a CS22 center channel... when they're on sale that's only $170 total for all 3 and a significant upgrade.

On the receiver- this thread will show you the difference in the 2013 Denon models so you can decide which features matter to you and which don't

The 'Official' 2013 Denon "E Series" / "X Series" AVR Model Owner's Thread & FAQ


As one point of clarification, the Audessy on both the E-series and the X series tune the subwoofer... the difference is the X series uses higher resolution filters to do so.

If this difference would be significant or noticeable for your situation is a whole other question.

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Skip the pioneer sub and get a Dayton Sub1200 for $99 from parts express...

and at some point when space allows you might consider moving to a 5.1 system by moving those BS22s to the back and getting FS52s for the front (better speakers for music too) and a CS22 center channel... when they're on sale that's only $170 total for all 3 and a significant upgrade.

On the receiver- this thread will show you the difference in the 2013 Denon models so you can decide which features matter to you and which don't

The 'Official' 2013 Denon "E Series" / "X Series" AVR Model Owner's Thread & FAQ


As one point of clarification, the Audessy on both the E-series and the X series tune the subwoofer... the difference is the X series uses higher resolution filters to do so.

If this difference would be significant or noticeable for your situation is a whole other question.
Right, the E-300 is only MultiEQ, whereas the X1000 is MultiEQ XT. More points for the mic for calibration and increase in filters. XT is worth the extra moola.
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Right, the E-300 is only MultiEQ, whereas the X1000 is MultiEQ XT. More points for the mic for calibration and increase in filters. XT is worth the extra moola.
There's no "i" in MultEQ.
Seems like it used to be that only XT and XT32 eqd the subwoofer. That change recently?
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There's no "i" in MultEQ.
Seems like it used to be that only XT and XT32 eqd the subwoofer. That change recently?
You think I would have spelt that correctly considering I went to the district championship for the spelling bee in 5th grade. I'm not sure when MultEQ started eq the sub. I know it's been there since at least 2009.
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