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Definilty would help having a larger speaker in the back corners.

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That's a great idea and if I'm not mistaken 2 3677s would be comparable in price to 4 8340a speakers. I wonder how close is too close to sit to the 3677s. When I had the 3677s the kids had sleep overs laying on the floor watching movies from 4 feet away.

Scarry movies with 3677s as surrounds would be dangerous.
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I can tell you the bigger the soundstage from the surrounds the better! Imax only has 2 speakers for surrounds and the sound is impactful and enormous from every speaker, I have already convinced myself to do this and array my 4 surrounds into 2 large speakers. All my speakers will be horn loaded dual 10's this way with the same horn tweeters! If the room is not super wide I would recommend this and multichannel music will sound awesome.

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My local IMAX uses the same 5 identical surround setup. I still prefer a theater with a multi surround setup but your idea should work good for ya.

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Got a question for all you jbl pro owners out there. I just ordered 3 x 3252n's for my lcr speakers. Going to wind up with 2 x behringer inuke nu4-6000 amps to power the whole system I believe. Currently using a psa xv-15 sub for bass, but eventually going to build an ib with 4 x fi car ib318's. The only thing I have not decided on is my surrounds. I set up the jbl 8320 at my dad's house and liked the sound. However my wife flipped out after she the speakers. This is going in to my living room btw. So now I'm considering going with in wall surround speakers.

I want something that will hit reference levels however, with enough headroom to provide me with the same kind of realism I'm getting from the mains. Was looking at the HSU HIW-1 Horn In-Wall Speaker. Will wind up with 3 pairs of surrounds, 2 x surrounds, and 1 pair surround backs. Any of you guys have a different recommendation on surround speakers?
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I just ordered 3 x 3252n's for my lcr speakers. [cut] This is going in to my living room btw.
eek.gif Your wife is letting the 3252n in the living room? Are they hidden behind an AT screen?

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eek.gif Your wife is letting the 3252n in the living room? Are they hidden behind an AT screen?

She is either an unusual woman, been replaced with a Stepford wife or he has her bound to a chair and gagged. biggrin.gif

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Wait, she flipped out over surrounds that are actually flat on the wall but the dual 15's will be OK?

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Got a question for all you jbl pro owners out there. I just ordered 3 x 3252n's for my lcr speakers. Going to wind up with 2 x behringer inuke nu4-6000 amps to power the whole system I believe. Currently using a psa xv-15 sub for bass, but eventually going to build an ib with 4 x fi car ib318's. The only thing I have not decided on is my surrounds. I set up the jbl 8320 at my dad's house and liked the sound. However my wife flipped out after she the speakers. This is going in to my living room btw. So now I'm considering going with in wall surround speakers.

I want something that will hit reference levels however, with enough headroom to provide me with the same kind of realism I'm getting from the mains. Was looking at the HSU HIW-1 Horn In-Wall Speaker. Will wind up with 3 pairs of surrounds, 2 x surrounds, and 1 pair surround backs. Any of you guys have a different recommendation on surround speakers?

There are not many horn-loaded inwalls. If it has to be inwall, I'd say either those HSU or the Klipsch KL7800THX and KS7800THX. The Klipsch are significantly more expensive, though.
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Wait, she flipped out over surrounds that are actually flat on the wall but the dual 15's will be OK?

Lmao yes. I promised I would attempt to make some DIY grills. Shouldn't be too much of a project. Basically the front wall is all speakers and screen now and she's basically ok with it. But if it encroaches on any more of the living room she's going to flip out. My current speakers are Energy Veritas 1.8, and they are really large speakers as well. Once I switch to the 3 JBL 3252n, the center speaker will replace my salamander synergy 337(also large). So she liked the idea of the equipment rack mounted in the garage. The htpc is noisy, and all the gear is bright as hell.
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There are not many horn-loaded inwalls. If it has to be inwall, I'd say either those HSU or the Klipsch KL7800THX and KS7800THX. The Klipsch are significantly more expensive, though.

Yeah I won't do the Klipsch due to price, and I don't care for most of the Klipsch lineup. I like some of their higher end speakers, but not all of their stuff. I don't believe the Klipsch in walls will reach reference db's either. They have very little power handling and I've read too many times they inflate their sensitivity numbers. I'm skeptical enough of the HSU doing it, but they seem a little more trustworthy when it comes to rated specs.

Does anyone here have any experience with BIC Formula FH8-W. Here's a link:
http://www.parts-express.com/bic-formula-fh8-w-8-2-way-in-wall-speaker-pair--303-446

Cheaper than the HSU, and they claim 116db output(probably full of crap!)

Also it probably doesn't HAVE to be in wall. She just hated the JBL 8320. If I could find a slightly more attractive on wall option to timbre match the mains, and provide reference output I might be able to pull of a win-win!
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Sweet, I just got notified my speakers are being drop shipped from JBL. Took a little under a week I believe for my dad's 8320's to show up. So I'm hopeful they're here by next Thursday(my day off). I'll post up some pics, once they're in place. Now I gotta get to home depot lol. Going to need to move all the ethernet/hdmi/speaker wiring to the garage, and patch about 5 holes lol. Hope I still have some paint in the shed.
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Nice man good luck with the install. When I built my theater i prolly made 3 trips to Home Depot a day everyday for two months straight.

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Just changing up my living room system. Gotta be back up same day or the wife will flip. Funny you mention it though, doing inventory now. 3 plates with speaker binding posts, one with rca, and maybe power. Then a usb port to make sure my keyboard still works with the computer in the garage! Probably look into ir repeater as well since rf on my 10 year old mx 800 is flaky.
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Right on.

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What amps are you (and anyone else?) using for the 3677's ?

I'm hoping to buy Crown XLS 1000's...

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/XLS1000

I'm sure that'd be enough power for a garage-sized room no bigger that 6m x 6m (19" x 19") ?

Thanks in advance.
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Anyone know what type of binding posts the 3252n have? Not sure if it accepts spades/banana plugs, or bare wire only. Just ordering up some parts from parts express and figured I'd sleeve and finish the cables as best I can, since they have to be partially showing.
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What amps are you (and anyone else?) using for the 3677's ?

I'm hoping to buy Crown XLS 1000's...

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/XLS1000

I'm sure that'd be enough power for a garage-sized room no bigger that 6m x 6m (19" x 19") ?

Thanks in advance.
Avoid the XLS1000...get the XLS1500 or higher. Better SNR to avoid hiss issue.
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Anyone know what type of binding posts the 3252n have? Not sure if it accepts spades/banana plugs, or bare wire only. Just ordering up some parts from parts express and figured I'd sleeve and finish the cables as best I can, since they have to be partially showing.
All the JBL Pro Cinema speakers use terminal strip.
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Avoid the XLS1000...get the XLS1500 or higher. Better SNR to avoid hiss issue.
All the JBL Pro Cinema speakers use terminal strip.

Thx for the info on the binding posts. As to the hiss issue you brought up, it's not something I've heard about. My plan was to buy two Behringer inuke nu4-6000 4 channel amps to power the whole system. Do you think I'm going to run into any problems there?
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Thx for the info on the binding posts. As to the hiss issue you brought up, it's not something I've heard about. My plan was to buy two Behringer inuke nu4-6000 4 channel amps to power the whole system. Do you think I'm going to run into any problems there?
I'm not sure about the Behringer. I've read too many complaints about the Behringer loud fan noise.
Anyway, I'm sure Crown will be the best match as it's under the Harman family and being the forerunner in powering cinema installations.

Do post a review of the JBL 3252N when you've got them.
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JBL also has a dedicated crossover/dsp engine for the cinema speakers and Crown amps (while not required due to availability of the passive models I bet it kicks). The XLS line, while costing more than Beri, is pretty affordable and has quiet fans.

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I can't find the 3677 on full compass website anymore are they still selling jbl cinema speakers? I bought my others from them and was looking to get more. Thanks Jim
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I'm not sure about the Behringer. I've read too many complaints about the Behringer loud fan noise.
Anyway, I'm sure Crown will be the best match as it's under the Harman family and being the forerunner in powering cinema installations.

Do post a review of the JBL 3252N when you've got them.

I'll definitely post my findings on the speakers once they're set up. Behringer fan noise is a total non issue, amps are going in the garage.

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JBL also has a dedicated crossover/dsp engine for the cinema speakers and Crown amps (while not required due to availability of the passive models I bet it kicks). The XLS line, while costing more than Beri, is pretty affordable and has quiet fans.

I looked into their dsp system it didn't seem applicable to home system. I can eq everything in Jriver using REW to generate filters, then run audyssey for room correction. I just need affordable amplification not gimmicks. Basically this purchase and a need for money to finish the system has me stretched a little thin, so I'm definitely not trying to go overboard. In fact once everything is in and set up I'll probably have to start selling off my old gear.
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^^^Gotcha. ..if fan noise is not an issue then the Beri unit is probably a good fit. JRiver has an amazing amount of performance for its low cost.

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Cool man thx for the heads up. Pro gear is all new to me, but I've tried to do my homework.
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Been there...wish I hadnt bought nearly $3 grand in amp/preamp about 2 yrs ago (facepalm). Wish I had the cash back to buy the new DBX Driverack PA2 and 4 channels of Crown amplification.

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If you guys read the review by Andrew Robinson or saw his YouTube review on them , he preferred the crown amps with the 3677. Jbl also recommends crown. I plan on using them in my next theater room.
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As for behringer amps, yes they are loud as hell, I use a 1500 on my subs. I did the fan and resistor mod, now they are very quiet, but if u sit any closer that 12' from them you can still slightly hear them during dead quiet scenes if you listen for them.
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If you guys read the review by Andrew Robinson or saw his YouTube review on them , he preferred the crown amps with the 3677. Jbl also recommends crown. I plan on using them in my next theater room.

There was not a comprehensive review done comparing the sound of different amps with the jbl speakers. He declared that between the parasound halo, and the crown amps he preffered the crown. Just trying to keep things in perspective here. I would drive my entire system off the onkyo receiver if I thought it could handle it. But realistically driving seven channels, and two sets of side surrounds in parallel is just too much for it. All I need is enough power to hit reference after EQ with relatively low distortion. So far as I know the Behringer 4 channel amps are the cheapest route to doing so. Plus I get to use the Onkyo for the garage and the pool zones this way.
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I can't find the 3677 on full compass website anymore are they still selling jbl cinema speakers? I bought my others from them and was looking to get more. Thanks Jim
Yes they still do. Call them for cheapest price. Or try Spectrum audio.com and call them as well. Last time I checked they had free shipping on JBL Pro speakers.

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