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Cool. Congrats on landing some extra jobs! I've been enjoying mine. I just swapped out my surround speakers from bipole emotivas to a chase sho-10 and I love the sound. I think the chase are a much better match with them. The sound is much more enveloping now.
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http://www.lejonklou.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3163

I found some interesting reviews of the 3677. Also on page 2 a second opinion confirming the 3678 being not so great as well as some 4722 comparisons.

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Thanks for the link....very interesting read.

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I put them in a few weeks ago. Still have to finish the baffle wall around the mains. I should have never sold my first pair.
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Hi Cdy

My apologies for being absent for such a long time. Its my work and it took 2 months to get HST 18 subwoofers.

I have been listening to JBL 3677's(without the subs) and I was surprised that I enjoyed listening to music in stereo. Its crystal clear!

Have you guys listened to "Days of the new"
If you have a CD, you will see how good 3677's are.

Also, try listening to:

You will be amazed how these speakers reproduce!

Thank You for helping me setup my HT. I got all based on your recommendation:
3 JBL 3677's
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4 Volt-10 LXE for surround(yet to order them)

I am receiving my subs today and wanted to ask you what kind of cross overs I need to setup with Inuke 6000.

Thanks again!
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Cool, That setup looks like mine... Yea they are so much fun with music. Like being at a concert. After having the 2150s and then these again.... They are every bit as good as the 2150 with a tad more slam.

I have a decent response to 14k after xt32 with some dynamic eq. To sum them up in a word is..perfect!

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I am receiving my subs today and wanted to ask you what kind of cross overs I need to setup with Inuke 6000.

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Another LTD02 Designed Sub Build

You'll just need a high pass filter (tutorial in the link above) and any eq and phase you need to apply.
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Thank You!

How can I repay you for all the help
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Thank You!

How can I repay you for all the help
Deposit large amounts of cash in my paypal account...

But seriously I'm just happy to hear I was able to help and you're as impressed with them as much as I am!
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I have been listening to JBL 3677's(without the subs) and I was surprised that I enjoyed listening to music in stereo. Its crystal clear!

You will be amazed how these speakers reproduce!
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Where people ordering the 3677 from? Feel free to PM the deal you got if you don't mind sharing.
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How will the 3677 perform if there are lined up side by side as LCR behind a 100" AT screen? MLP is a close 11' from screen.
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How will the 3677 perform if there are lined up side by side as LCR behind a 100" AT screen? MLP is a close 11' from screen.
They will work fine in that configuration and distance.
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They will work fine in that configuration and distance.
Thanks mate! I'm looking at squeezing LCR behind the 98" wide AT screen, with space being the main constraint. New to JBL lineup and confused with all the model numbers running in my head.

Can someone also enlighten if the LSR708 is in the same league with the 3677 in terms of sonic performance for a small room setup? I gathered that LSR is the small brother of the M2; lesser sensitivity and of course can't compare in the area of mid bass SPL with an 8" driver. I don't have the opportunity to hear any of these speakers here. Comments will be much appreciated. Cheers!
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How will the 3677 perform if there are lined up side by side as LCR behind a 100" AT screen? MLP is a close 11' from screen.
They work fine however If you can spare a few more inches to give the L/R some toe in they'll really shine.

As for the comparison on the LSR.... unless anyone has heard them side by side it's speculation. The Ls of course extends higher and has a newer waveguide. In room after EQ I'd pick the 3677 all day long for home theater, for a living room (WAF) setup I'd probably switch.

FWIW I know a guy that owns 3677 based on my recommendation. He has a buddy with M2s and doesn't think they sound any better than his. Of course the room, setup and EQ all play big factors.. but that was his claim.
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Hmmm, whatever toe-in will have to be within the 98" width I have to spare. My setup will be in the living hall which explains why I'm curious about the 3677 vs LSR. The LSR piqued my interest due to its smaller form and affiliation with M2. At the same time, the midbass slam of the 3677 and the CD is very alluring. I plough through the LSR thread, not much discussion about its performance. Probably cos its newly released I would think. Right now, I guess I'm with the 3677 until someone who heard both can weigh in and comment. Cheers!
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Remember with the LSR70Xi series you need either a Crown DCi- N amp or BSS Blu (or JBL synthesis equivalent). That adds at least $1k in cost (BSS Blu-50) for the L and R processing. The 3677 is not comparable in cost. Performance - who knows, we need a giant G2G with all the toys. Would be very difficult to do as these speakers get pretty bulky and the setup time in between would be to long for accurate assessments, but man it would be a fantastic day.
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Hmmm, whatever toe-in will have to be within the 98" width I have to spare.
I found aiming at the center of the money row to be about right. I've experimented with aiming a few feet in front of the seats and that's great too. Slight toe in I didn't like so much.
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I grabbed a pair of 8340a over the weekend for peanuts. Now deliberating between 4722 and 3677. No idea how the x-curve will work out in movies in a hall 11.5' x 15'.

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I grabbed a pair of 8340a over the weekend for peanuts. Now deliberating between 4722 and 3677. No idea how the x-curve will work out in movies in a hall 11.5' x 15'.

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I have had both the 3677 and the 4722 in my room at the same time. The 4722 is a better speaker all around but it is also much bigger and twice the cost. If you are going to be primarily doing movies and gaming, the 3677 will give you good clarity, awesome chest slam, and effortless dynamics. For $500ish shipped, it is a no-brainer. If you can swing the size and cost of the 4722, I would recommend doing so. Out of the box it sounds much better than the 3677 but again, the 3677 is no slouch. The 4722 also affords you to upgrade the CD later to 4" coated Ti or Be which takes the speaker to another level. Hope this helps.

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I have had both the 3677 and the 4722 in my room at the same time. The 4722 is a better speaker all around but it is also much bigger and twice the cost. If you are going to be primarily doing movies and gaming, the 3677 will give you good clarity, awesome chest slam, and effortless dynamics. For $500ish shipped, it is a no-brainer. If you can swing the size and cost of the 4722, I would recommend doing so. Out of the box it sounds much better than the 3677 but again, the 3677 is no slouch. The 4722 also affords you to upgrade the CD later to 4" coated Ti or Be which takes the speaker to another level. Hope this helps.

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Thanks a lot for the feedback Chris. It really helps a lot coming from someone who owns BOTH speakers at the same time. I'm a movie guy. My right brain says 4722s for the performance, definitely no regrets and unlikely to upgrade for the next 5 years; the left brain says 3677s for the form fit (in a small hall) and savings, I'll probably forget about 4722s once I start enjoying the 3677s. I'm a bit inclined to 3677 for now, unless I can land on the 4722 at a more reasonable price (I'm not in CONUS btw).

Now that you mentioned, is 3677 'upgradable'?
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Thanks a lot for the feedback Chris. It really helps a lot coming from someone who owns BOTH speakers at the same time. I'm a movie guy. My right brain says 4722s for the performance, definitely no regrets and unlikely to upgrade for the next 5 years; the left brain says 3677s for the form fit (in a small hall) and savings, I'll probably forget about 4722s once I start enjoying the 3677s. I'm a bit inclined to 3677 for now, unless I can land on the 4722 at a more reasonable price (I'm not in CONUS btw).

Now that you mentioned, is 3677 'upgradable'?
I don't think they are upgrade-able, but you may want to go into the JPL Pro thread and ask. I know that @cdy2179 pulled the driver and put more insulation in the cabinet. He said that helped a lot.

Based on your post, go with the 4722. I can tell already you are the type that every time you look at the 3677 you are going to wonder what the 4722 would have sounded like Either way, 3677 or 4722, you will be smiling ear to ear once you hear the effortless dynamics that JBL Pro Cinema speakers bring to your home theater. It takes movie watching to another level! Don't get me wrong, the 3677 is a beast. The 4722 just has better table manners.
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I grabbed a pair of 8340a over the weekend for peanuts. Now deliberating between 4722 and 3677. No idea how the x-curve will work out in movies in a hall 11.5' x 15'.

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With good EQ like xt32 the x curve will be eq'd out.. see my pic above. You'll be very surprised how great they sound. I posted a link above to a thread where some have heard both and perfer the 3677, I also have a buddy who's heard one of the 4722 systems popular on this forum and didn't think it was any better than his 3677 system. Of course the room, setup and EQ are key and can make or break any speaker. Raw Frequency response wise the 4722 has a killer response that's hard to argue with. Of course on the 4722 thread lots of talk of swapping horns to get rid of a little harshness is frequent at times where as there is no such harshness with the 3677.

Personally I can only compare the QSC 2150 to the 3677 as that's all I've owned.

As for the 8340a.. I've owned them and have a review thread for them..not a fan to say the least. There are far superior speakers that could be used for surrounds. But if they were cheap it's always a good experiment.

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I don't think they are upgrade-able, but you may want to go into the JPL Pro thread and ask. I know that @cdy2179 pulled the driver and put more insulation in the cabinet. He said that helped a lot.

Based on your post, go with the 4722. I can tell already you are the type that every time you look at the 3677 you are going to wonder what the 4722 would have sounded like Either way, 3677 or 4722, you will be smiling ear to ear once you hear the effortless dynamics that JBL Pro Cinema speakers bring to your home theater. It takes movie watching to another level! Don't get me wrong, the 3677 is a beast. The 4722 just has better table manners.
Probably the 3677... But you will always be right about me wondering about 4722, impossible to escape from that 'what if...'

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With good EQ like xt32 the x curve will be eq'd out.. see my pic above. You'll be very surprised how great they sound. I posted a link above to a thread where some have heard both and perfer the 3677, I also have a buddy who's heard one of the 4722 systems popular on this forum and didn't think it was any better than his 3677 system. Of course the room, setup and EQ are key and can make or break any speaker. Raw Frequency response wise the 4722 has a killer response that's hard to argue with. Of course on the 4722 thread lots of talk of swapping horns to get rid of a little harshness is frequent at times where as there is no such harshness with the 3677.

Personally I can only compare the QSC 2150 to the 3677 as that's all I've owned.

As for the 8340a.. I've owned them and have a review thread for them..not a fan to say the least. There are far superior speakers that could be used for surrounds. But if they were cheap it's always a good experiment.
Yeah, I read about the Volts v 8340a... You have to agree with me that when you picked up a pair for $180, every other weak areas becomes bearable for a while

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Yeah, I read about the Volts v 8340a... You have to agree with me that when you picked up a pair for $180, every other weak areas becomes bearable for a while

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@ cdy2179 By the way, are you still thinking about changing the horns on the 3677, or the idea has been dropped?
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If you go back through the first few pages of the thread you'll notice the speakers changed a ton as they broke in which took a while. I did swap horns and eventually kept coming back to the stock horn as it just did everything great. Wide dispersion and super smooth. As for the insulation mod the JBL lining is very thin. In my new 3677 (my 2nd time owning them) I haven't done this mod yet.. not sure If I'll get around to it as a lot of what I had issue with the first time was due to the long break in time. However I still think the lining is too thin.

but anyways here's post 96 where I updated once they broke in more.

Update!!!!!

Well I take back all of the nit picking I did with these babies. They really take a while to break in...even the CD has changed drastically. Dynamics are incredible of course but the horns have really opened up.

this weekend we watched, From paris with love (Blu-ray), Splice (Blu-Ray) and Defendor (HD rip). All great movies..especially Defendor and From Paris with love, which had great soundtracks and lots of action.

This is by far the best my room has ever sounded....no longer any harshness..we even cranked it louder than normal and it flat out rocked. Vocals were oustanding, we could make out conversations that were going on in the background of the movie as if we were in the room..things other speakers I've had wouldn't have made clear.

I also experiemented with different horns (primarily the one the 4 pi uses) although the 4 Pi horn did sound a little better with music the original horn imaged better and blended better with the woofer with vocals.

All in all I say for the price the 3677 is total winner...for all I know it's still breaking in but it's already killing anything i've had in the past.
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Would the 3677 work well as center and rears/sides with 4722n and the L/R mains? Or would I be better off with 5 or 7 of the exact same speaker, i.e., all 3677? I don't think I can fit more than 2 4722ns in my room.
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IMHO I would get all matching speakers which have perfect timbre. In my room matching lesser capable speakers is better than uber mains and small surrounds. The key is capable speakers. 3677 covers that!

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Would the 3677 work well as center and rears/sides with 4722n and the L/R mains? Or would I be better off with 5 or 7 of the exact same speaker, i.e., all 3677? I don't think I can fit more than 2 4722ns in my room.
A member here recently reviewed another members setup with modded 4722 (beryllium upgraded CD) and a 3677 center. The reviewer has 3 3677s. He said he didn't think the 4722/3677 setup was any better than his 3677 setup and wouldn't swap to the 4722 even if he had more room (he has the $$). Like I said above ...setup, EQ, and the room acoustics play huge roles in the end result ..as does placebo (which i'm sure was a factor to some degree).. so take that what it's worth.

As for having exact matching speakers... sure that is always a plus, BTW I would never mix the front 3. But all matching isn't feasible really when you're talking 7.1.4 atmos. Also these speakers need some room to image. For instance my QSC 2150s were mounted perfect for the rear row but because the speaker is so tall the front row was off axis. That's why I sold it for the 3677, that and I felt the 3677 was just as good. To me it makes more sense to get something like Volt 10lx or similar for Atmos, rears, surrounds and they blend extremely well to my ears.. much better than the JBL cinema surrounds (i've owned 8340a and 8330a) . Honestly a system with 11 volts 10lx (7.1.4) would be an awesome system (if one was hung up on matching)...of course without the insane slam of the JBLs.

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