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Interesting....

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Interesting....

http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/sho...&postcount=338

Wow, more than interesting!
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Wow, more than interesting!
Yeah...I hope I get a chance to hear it.

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Yeah...I hope I get a chance to hear it.
Better sooner than later! Hopefully it does not take you as long as the last time to hear the prototype

From what I have heard, the Ribbon version can be more easily integrated into the Towers 3-way arrangement due to the closer XO points of the Ribbon and mid range driver compared to say a two way design. I need to gather more information and Dave's opinion on how the two compare.
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I'm dying to know how much the upgrade will cost and how soon it will be available!
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I'm dying to know how much the upgrade will cost and how soon it will be available!
Probably going to be inline with the Songtower pricing, only now you get a true 3-way speaker with a bamboo enclosure.
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Probably going to be inline with the Songtower pricing, only now you get a true 3-way speaker with a bamboo enclosure.

I am honestly not sure how long we will be able to maintain current pricing... Prices on everything are going up dramatically and the current government deficit fiasco is causing the dollar to fall against the Euro which only makes matters even worse

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I'm dying to know how much the upgrade will cost and how soon it will be available!

I just posted some additional info on our forum. I don't believe I am allowed to link to it but the ribbon tweeter option will add $700 to a pair.

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Whoa this is fascinating news. I'm on the pre-order list for the Towers and now seriously considering the upgrade. The only thing holding me back is that in my open floor plan home, my speakers are used to provide sound throughout the house. I've heard generally that typical ribbon tweets have a quite defined sweet spot -- and I'm never in the "sweet spot" of my current Sierra 1s. I've only heard ribbons in Magnolia theater rooms. I'm curious about folks in-home experience with ribbons? Especially if you don't do much critical listening in the sweet spot.
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Whoa this is fascinating news. I'm on the pre-order list for the Towers and now seriously considering the upgrade. The only thing holding me back is that in my open floor plan home, my speakers provide sound throughout the house. I've heard generally that typical ribbon tweets have a quite defined sweet spot -- and I'm never in the "sweet spot" of my current Sierra 1s. I've only heard ribbons in Magnolia theater rooms. I'm curious about folks in-home experience with ribbons? Especially if you don't do much critical listening in the sweet spot.

From what I know about ribbons...if you do not spend a lot time in the sweet spot, stick with the NrT(dome) tweeter.

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Awesome thanks. Confirms my suspicions. Are you decided on the Towers? The wife thinks my stereo speaker quest is getting ridiculous.
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The wife thinks my stereo speaker quest is getting ridiculous.

Most wifes do.

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Awesome thanks. Confirms my suspicions. Are you decided on the Towers? The wife thinks my stereo speaker quest is getting ridiculous.

I am leaning heavily towards getting a pair.

No wife for me! My daughter loves playing her music on the system...although she has created a Justin Bieber channel on my Pandora account!

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I am leaning heavily towards getting a pair.

No wife for me! My daughter loves playing her music on the system...although she has created a Justin Bieber channel on my Pandora account!
C'mon Curtis-you know you fire up that Justin Bieber channel when when nobody's around

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C'mon Curtis-you know you fire up that Justin Bieber channel when when nobody's around
Ha...torture...pure torture!


On other news...Dave has posted pics of a prototype matching center to go along with the tower. The STC (Sierra Tower Center):

http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/sho...&postcount=354

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From what I know about ribbons...if you do not spend a lot time in the sweet spot, stick with the NrT(dome) tweeter.

Regarding the ribbon tweeter option, would it make any sense to consider a ribbon tweeter for the Center and leave the domes on the mains? Just a thought considering the sweet spot issue. Obviously, if using 5.1 for HT use, being out of the sweet spot is not really an issue. I do not know what this will do to the l/c/r cohesion in regards to tonal quality, but I'm sure someone who knows more than me will offer thoughts.

Gentlemen?
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but I'm sure someone who knows more than me will offer thoughts.

Gentlemen?

I'll offer my thoughts just because now I am a gentleman who knows more than you
Its generally not the best idea to mix/match the front 3 speakers due to timbre matching when sounds pan across the front soundstage. I am not sure the added cost for the Ribbon just for the center would be worth it. I would consult Dave to get his take on this considering he has heard both Tower versions back to back.
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Merrymaid likes the front three to match and identical is even nicer. Hefner likes identical triplets. 'Nuff said?

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Merrymaid likes the front three to match and identical is even nicer. Hefner likes identical triplets. 'Nuff said?

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If you are interested, head over to the Ascend forum...Dave has posted a picture of some custom finished Towers.

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If you are interested, head over to the Ascend forum...Dave has posted a picture of some custom finished Towers.

Your earlier post, which has vanished, had a link that I clicked on. Turns out you've got to be a member of the forum to view it. It would be nice if one didn't have to join in order to view pics. Nothing personal. Just a general pet peeve of mine.

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Your earlier post, which has vanished, had a link that I clicked on. Turns out you've got to be a member of the forum to view it. It would be nice if one didn't have to join in order to view pics. Nothing personal. Just a general pet peeve of mine.

I'll see if I can get pics.

Someone reported the earlier post as "marketing".

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I'll see if I can get pics.

Someone reported the earlier post as "marketing".

Probably someone driving by with a case of deltoid road rage.

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Probably someone driving by with a case of deltoid road rage.

Or a Salk owner haha...
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I'll see if I can get pics.

Someone reported the earlier post as "marketing".

Yeah, wouldn't want to post anything relating to the Ascend Towers in a thread dedicated to them....
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or a salk owner haha...

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Your earlier post, which has vanished, had a link that I clicked on. Turns out you've got to be a member of the forum to view it. It would be nice if one didn't have to join in order to view pics. Nothing personal. Just a general pet peeve of mine.

Chu, you mean after all this time you still haven't joined our little forum?

I have found that by limiting certain access to forum members only, spam is greatly reduced. Also, we have had issues in the past where a picture from our forum (with a large file size) was used somewhere else on a high traffic site without our permission. It was being referenced such that our server was "serving" the picture and this caused serious bandwidth issues and forum problems as the forum can only support so many connections at one time. Limiting access as we do is a necessary evil, at least until we can find a solution.

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I'll see if I can get pics.

Someone reported the earlier post as "marketing".

That makes me sad, posting a picture of this finish option in a thread dedicated to this speaker is important information to share with those interested in the speaker. Pictures of various finish options for many brands of loudspeakers are posted on this forum every day. This is not vaporware, this pair of speakers is being picked up by the customer in about 3 hours.

I will be sad to say goodbye to this pair -- pictures don't do them justice. I will try to take some decent pictures later today before we say goodbye to them.

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Chu, you mean after all this time you still haven't joined our little forum?

Nope. Nothing personal.

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I have found that by limiting certain access to forum members only, spam is greatly reduced. Also, we have had issues in the past where a picture from our forum (with a large file size) was used somewhere else on a high traffic site without our permission. It was being referenced such that our server was "serving" the picture and this caused serious bandwidth issues and forum problems as the forum can only support so many connections at one time. Limiting access as we do is a necessary evil, at least until we can find a solution.

You need to speak to your webmaster about how picture linking can be restricted. There also also programs that will trim the file size without adversely compromising image quality.

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Nuance, are you in here?

I'm always around but choose to ignore the tasteless pot shots.

There is a general misnomer about ribbons tweeters that seems to be running rampant in this thread (and another). Their horizontal dispersion is actually quite good, though it will depend on the quality of the driver, size and implementation. The vertical dispersion will not be as nice as a quality dome, due to the shape and size of the driver, but most people listen sitting down instead of standing, so... A well implemented quality dome should have better overall dispersion, but in my opinion it isn't as resolving, and some quality ribbons can actually be crossed lower than a typical dome (this is also a general misunderstanding, as I've seen it said they all have to be crossed higher than a dome), thus allowing for a fuller sounding midrange (more accurate IMO). No one wants a thin midrange. Driver design is just like speaker design in that there are tradeoffs. Having the option to choose is certainly better than be limited to one option. If you like a dome - great. If you want to try a ribbon - cool. The important thing is that said driver(s) are implemented correctly, and considering Dave knows what he's doing I think you guys are a good shape.

Dave, is that the RAAL ribbon?

P.S. Don't forget that the limited horizontal dispersion of a ribbon helps with ceiling/floor reflections, and that is a good thing. I'll take a properly integrated, quality ribbon any day.

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I'll see if I can get pics.

Someone reported the earlier post as "marketing".

Really? That's pretty pathetic that someone would do that. Why not have someone besides yourself post the pictures? That way they cannot be accused of "marketing."

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