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I bought Monitor60's and a CS2 last year for my fronts. Right now my surround speakers are my old Onkyo speakers and I don't think they are really getting a lot of surround info coming to them. Tempted to get the 70's for the fronts and make my 60's my surround speakers (IF THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE, and I'm unsure) but that sounds like complete overkill to me. Ideas? Opinions? Suggestions? Wouldn't I need a fairly high-end receiver to put out enough juice to enjoy those babies? Currently got an old Onkyo 5.2 receiver. I'm in an apartment and I watch movies and listen to music (50/50). Not much TV or games.


So I said, "Hey! Lama! How 'bout a little something, ya know, for the effort?"

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Are you using a sub? If so, you may not find much of an advantage to the 70 over the 60.
But for music, assuming you're two-channel (not 2.1) then you might want to get the 70.

I love my Monitor 60 but a part of me has always wondered whether I'd prefer the 70.

Also to consider is whether you have room for full-size towers as your rear speakers. Is there a clear line-of-sight to your ears so the sound from the 60s won't be blocked by furniture?
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I do have a sub so that might settle that. I've never heard the 70's compared the 60's and wouldn't know where to go to hear the difference. My original thought was to put my surrounds on either side of my couch behind me. It wouldn't be blocked by furniture but it might not be in the ideal spot either. Apartment living ain't easy. ;-)

So you think the audio difference between the 60's and the 70 series II is probably not all that significant? If I'm going to shell out $325+ on a 'maybe' I'll skip it. If it's a world of difference, I'm willing.


So I said, "Hey! Lama! How 'bout a little something, ya know, for the effort?"

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Surrounds speakers generally do not get a lot of info. You'll be wasting our money by upgrading to the Monitor 70's since you already have a subwoofer.

If you want to replace your Onkyo speakers just get some Monitor 30's for surrounds.

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I really appreciate all this feedback.

Here are the specs on my speakers (the surrounds) and I was thinking about using the Onkyo center speaker for the rear surround.

http://onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=SKS-...ss=Speaker&p=s


Do you think the Polk 30's would sound much better?


Sorry for all the questions. I really am a noob here and I can read the numbers but I know that they don't always tell the whole story. Figured you guys would know from experience more than I would.


So I said, "Hey! Lama! How 'bout a little something, ya know, for the effort?"

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I've changed my surrounds up many times. You'll immediately notice a huge benefit by timbre matching the surrounds to the fronts. A larger surround will make a difference. The problem with surrounds is that once you get used to the soundstage, you'll stop noticing how good they are. It's just a part of the overall experience. Those Onks really suck in comparison to M30s or M60s, so I really think you'd appreciate the change. It will be lasting since you'll remember how bad your rig sounded in comparison, but with either option, it will eventually become like an old girlfriend vs. the hottie you just met.

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...but with either option, it will eventually become like an old girlfriend vs. the hottie you just met.

Hahaha. Well said. Seeing as the 30's are a chunk less change I might just go that route for now. Thank you!


So I said, "Hey! Lama! How 'bout a little something, ya know, for the effort?"

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I am having a hard time understanding why I constantly keep seeing people suggest the Monitor 60's over the 70's if they have a Subwoofer. Its only with the Polks you see this. Every where else people say the additional woofers add more depth. On my Polk Setup I have 2 Monitors 70's paired with CS2 and two subs on the front end. I have two KEF PSW2150 as well as I tried 2 BIC-PL 200. I think the Monitor 70's with a sub do good job covering the entire range but I have never tried with the 60's. Can someone explain how the 60 are equal to the 70s with a sub?
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I think you have the last part confused or perhaps you mistyped. From what I've been told with the 70's you get more on the bass end. They are recommending a good sub to go with the 60's to balance the fact that it doesn't produce as much on the lower end as the 70's.

Okay, I re-read it and I see how you meant it. Could have been read either way. Answer still sticks from the many times I've been told but as you can tell I'm no expert. Maybe someone can give you a more detailed answer.


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If you want to replace your Onkyo speakers just get some Monitor 30's for surrounds.

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I am having a hard time understanding why I constantly keep seeing people suggest the Monitor 60's over the 70's if they have a Subwoofer. Its only with the Polks you see this. Every where else people say the additional woofers add more depth. On my Polk Setup I have 2 Monitors 70's paired with CS2 and two subs on the front end. I have two KEF PSW2150 as well as I tried 2 BIC-PL 200. I think the Monitor 70's with a sub do good job covering the entire range but I have never tried with the 60's. Can someone explain how the 60 are equal to the 70s with a sub?

Yea, monitor 70's will DEFINITELY give you a richer sound compared to the 60's, sub or no sub. I personally usually recomend people sticking w/ 60's plus sub if they're kinda back n forth on the two because I don't really think its worth the extra $$. But if money isn't an issue then def the 70's will give a richer sound.
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I'm wondering if there is a <$300 receiver that will take my speakers to the next level.

Currently I have:

Onkyo TX-SR601
Polk Monitor60 - fronts
Polk CS2 - center
an Onkyo sub that works for my tiny place
Polk Monitor 30s - surround (coming soon on the above recommendations)

Now could I enjoy these speakers a whole lot more with a better receiver? If so, what are your recommendations?


So I said, "Hey! Lama! How 'bout a little something, ya know, for the effort?"

Setup:
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Polk Monitor 70s, CS2. FXiA6s, Monitor 30s
Samsung UN55C6800

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I'm wondering if there is a sub $300 receiver that will take my speakers to the next level.

Currently I have:

Onkyo TX-SR601
Polk Monitor60 - fronts
Polk CS2 - center
an Onkyo sub that works for my tiny place
Polk Monitor 30s - surround (coming soon on the above recommendations)

Now could I enjoy these speakers a whole lot more with a better receiver? If so, what are your recommendations?

My vote on this is the BIC PL-200.
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My vote on this is the BIC PL-200.

Thanks Brandon but I was asking for a receiver recommendation that would help me get more out of these speakers. That appears to be a subwoofer.


So I said, "Hey! Lama! How 'bout a little something, ya know, for the effort?"

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Thanks Brandon but I was asking for a receiver recommendation that would help me get more out of these speakers. That appears to be a subwoofer.

Receiver budget?
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Receiver budget?

Let's say less than $500USD but ideally under $300


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If you go used you can find a nice one under $300.

Under $500?
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

Denon 3310 CI from Amazon Warehouse deals
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...condition=used

Just the addition of Audyssey Multi EQ room calibration will help your speakers plus the extra power of either one of these receivers.

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If you go used you can find a nice one under $300.

Under $500?
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html...

This Onkyo isn't a used/refurb? Way cheaper than Amazon but I'm skeptical of the oufit. Have you used them? The savings make this receiver even more attractive.

I don't play my speakers super loud because I'm in an apartment. Will this unit give me better clarity and improve the quality of sound even if not at super high volumes? I don't need power if power means volume.


So I said, "Hey! Lama! How 'bout a little something, ya know, for the effort?"

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Polk Monitor 70s, CS2. FXiA6s, Monitor 30s
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Power can also mean clarity, clean power.

Yes I've purchased from Accessories4less before. They sell new and refurb items. This receiver is a refurb and comes with the mfrs 1 year warranty. AC4less is an authorized Onkyo dealer.

They're very well known on AVS Forum.

You can also purchase from Shoponkyo.com but this particular receiver is cheaper at AC4less right now.

Similar receiver to the 807 is the RC180
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-RC180...1399685&sr=8-3

There are other brands that may suit you well also. Marantz, Yamaha, HK, Pioneer as well as Onkyo.

This Yamaha 1065 may appeal to you also and it is brand new with 2 year mfrs warranty.
http://www.6ave.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=YAMRXV1065BL

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Let's say less than $500USD but ideally under $300

Pioneer 1120.
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Someone said the 1120 can be found for $420. Just get that.

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Someone said the 1120 can be found for $420. Just get that.
So Pioneer 1120 is better than the Onkyo and Yamaha? Sounds nice. The Onkyo would play loseless audio files off a computer network (I'm assuming FLAC files). Wonder if the Pioneer does that too. Sounds like a nice option.


So I said, "Hey! Lama! How 'bout a little something, ya know, for the effort?"

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So Pioneer 1120 is better than the Onkyo and Yamaha? Sounds nice. The Onkyo would play loseless audio files off a computer network (I'm assuming FLAC files). Wonder if the Pioneer does that too. Sounds like a nice option.
The 1120 can't play files directly off your network -- it doesn't support DLNA.

However, that's the only real flaw I've found in the 1120's feature set, so that says a lot.
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I wanted to thank all of you. I got my Monitor 30's and they sound a helluva lot better than the old Onkyo surrounds. I was missing a lot of audio.

Just picked up a Yamaha RX-Z7 and have yet to plug it in. Hope that makes a difference too. We shall see.


So I said, "Hey! Lama! How 'bout a little something, ya know, for the effort?"

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Polk Monitor 70s, CS2. FXiA6s, Monitor 30s
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Someone said the 1120 can be found for $420. Just get that.

where is this, im considering on switching up to that, for that price, amazon wants 508 for it. but then i just saw the denon 3310, which i read great things on. not sure which to get now. oh man
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