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If you know of any place that sells one that is smaller than the ViaBlue ones that is in the US, I'd be interested.


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I apologize, I was not have been clear in what I was trying to say. What I was trying to say is it's too bad that someone doesn't make a cheaper metal wire splitter that is SMALLER than the ViaBlue ones, that are sold in the USA. I am not looking to spend $25 per speaker wire on cable pants so ViaBlue and comparably priced ones are out of my realm.

The size of them also seems unnecessarily bulky, which is why I liked the smaller ones I posted a picture of, except they ship from China, and I wasn't wanting to wait 2-6 weeks for delivery.

For the time being, I will use KnuKonceptz basic speaker pants.

I am just surprised that there is not a happy medium between your basic rubber wire pants(like from KnuKonceptz) and the metal wire pants(like from ViaBLue).

These plastic y-splitters from quables.com look respectable but the inlet hole is not larger than the dual outlet holes, hench why it is a splitter and not necessarily speaker wire pants, they are also coming from the Netherlands.

Seems like what I am looking for would be a perfect candidate for a 3D printer, I just don't have one.
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I apologize, I was not have been clear in what I was trying to say. What I was trying to say is it's too bad that someone doesn't make a cheaper metal wire splitter that is SMALLER than the ViaBlue ones, that are sold in the USA. I am not looking to spend $25 per speaker wire on cable pants so ViaBlue and comparably priced ones are out of my realm.

The size of them also seems unnecessarily bulky, which is why I liked the smaller ones I posted a picture of, except they ship from China, and I wasn't wanting to wait 2-6 weeks for delivery.

For the time being, I will use KnuKonceptz basic speaker pants.

I am just surprised that there is not a happy medium between your basic rubber wire pants(like from KnuKonceptz) and the metal wire pants(like from ViaBLue).

These plastic y-splitters from quables.com look respectable but the inlet hole is not larger than the dual outlet holes, hench why it is a splitter and not necessarily speaker wire pants, they are also coming from the Netherlands.
those ^^ look ugly and chunky..
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those ^^ look ugly and chunky..
I agree for the most part, I posted them for reference and as other than $12-$20 per metal wire splitter, or something from China that clearly looks shoddy in the pictures of the auction, that is the only other thing I can find that does something similar to speaker pants.

a nicely moulded plastic barrel, similar but smaller than a ViaBlue wire pant, in the $2-$3 range would be what I was looking for.
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I agree for the most part, I posted them for reference and as other than $12-$20 per metal wire splitter, or something from China that clearly looks shoddy in the pictures of the auction, that is the only other thing I can find that does something similar to speaker pants.

a nicely moulded plastic barrel, similar but smaller than a ViaBlue wire pant, in the $2-$3 range would be what I was looking for.
Just buy the rubber pants then, those are cheap and work great..
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Just buy the rubber pants then, those are cheap and work great..
I already purchased the rubber pants...Thanks for being so combative towards me looking for any ideas I could get.
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I already purchased the rubber pants...Thanks for being so combative towards me looking for any ideas I could get.
You want to play, you have to pay... Simple as that..
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I agree for the most part, I posted them for reference and as other than $12-$20 per metal wire splitter, or something from China that clearly looks shoddy in the pictures of the auction, that is the only other thing I can find that does something similar to speaker pants.

a nicely moulded plastic barrel, similar but smaller than a ViaBlue wire pant, in the $2-$3 range would be what I was looking for.



This worked for me, until there are more solutions on the market Have a look at these Beauties!!!! How to make your OWN "High End" Cables!!!

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This worked for me, until there are more solutions on the market Have a look at these Beauties!!!! How to make your OWN "High End" Cables!!!
I remember seeing those during my 120 page binge, now that you re-posted them.

I have been going through the 1000+ page DIY headphone cable thread over at head-fi and have seen a bunch of nice solutions, some bought and some made. I attached some below. The skull splitters were created in SketchUp and sent to a 3D printing service which I thought was pretty cool.
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I tried my hand at a cable last night after receiving my materials from mdpc-x, I am actually very happy with how it came out, even with the KnuKonceptz wire pants.

The only issue I had, was that the "small" mdpc-x sleeving is expanded almost to its maximum, using Monoprice 14AWG CL2, and because of this, the white jacket of the Monoprice wire barely shows through, but it's not that bad, I'm half tempted to not worry about it.

To resolve the small bleedthrough of the white jacket of the Monoprice wire, I could either go with wire that has a jacket size of around 6mm as opposed to 7mm of the 14AWG, but this would put me into 16AWG territory which to my understanding is not suitable for our application?

Second option would be to simply find some black jacketed wire that is 7mm in total outside diameter or less, any good recommendations? I found some, but it ended up being some type of aluminum wire that was simply copper clad.

The third option would be to to buy some of the "sata" sized sleeve from mdpc-x, which while it can be expanded a lot larger, has a resting size of 5mm, so most likely would not put the O.D. at much higher than what the "small" sleeve has.

I'll post pictures of my cable tonight with exact build materials, I certainly didn't expect it to come out as nice as it did on my first go around, but with all the info I got from this thread and head-fi, I was able to order almost everything right on the first go around. After getting my feet wet, I now know how the material works and what I need to finish it off.
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Second option would be to simply find some black jacketed wire that is 7mm in total outside diameter or less, any good recommendations? I found some, but it ended up being some type of aluminum wire that was simply copper clad.
Visit Belden's website. Go to Broadcast & AV, and see what kinds of speaker wire they have. I'd recommend Mogami, but I don't think they make anything in that outer diameter, though the jackets are black and round, might be worth a closer look?

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Sandstorm, if you want I make these for my speaker cables and rca cables. I have another 200' of this cable. I can make you a 1.5m piece for you to try out. I braid that by hand. Take a while but I can do one for you..


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Sandstorm, if you want I make these for my speaker cables and rca cables. I have another 200' of this cable. I can make you a 1.5m piece for you to try out. I braid that by hand. Take a while but I can do one for you..


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While those look nice, I prefer the sleeved look. Thanks for the offer.
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Attached below are some pictures of the half cable I threw together last night, the camera REALLY makes the white outer jacket of the monoprice 14/2wire show through the sleeve, I swear it's not that bad in person. I also used heatshrink around the sleeve at the inlet and dual outlet of the pants so it would fill the gaps between the sleeve and pants, this worked great, but needed 1 more piece and it would have been flush, I just didn't have a lot to work with. Also attached some *real* pictures of every sleeve color available from mdpc-x. The "small" diameter 4:1 and the "large" diameter 3.4:1 heatshrink from them was a real pleasure to work with as well.

I think I'm going to order some of the same color in their "sata" size, should end up with the same finished O.D. but won't be as stretched as the small size, would completely fix bleedthrough for all but the largest cables, it's simply more expensive than their "small" which is why I was trying to stay with only the small(like in my pictures). I also found some black jacketed stranded copper 14/2 on ebay that also is 1mm smaller than my current Monoprice 14/2 which is strange because I thought there were standards to abide by. Anything wrong with this?: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CL2-IN-WALL-...item5d6936d150
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...Second option would be to simply find some black jacketed wire that is 7mm in total outside diameter or less, any good recommendations? I found some, but it ended up being some type of aluminum wire that was simply copper clad....

Will 6.76 mm (0.266") in dark grey work for you?


https://www.markertek.com/product/bl...o-cable-per-ft


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if you want the cable color to show through, get smaller flex.
Red with black over it.

The pearl will let color show through on its own. Thats just the way its made.
The second one is green/black flex with black smaller flex over.
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I am about to jump into this head first. I have built large gauge extension cords for welders. So i am not unfamiliar with making cords/cables.
Just nothing like a speaker cable.

I have a fresh spool of 12 gauge 2 conductor speaker wire. Banana plugs.
Now here is where i need some help. I am looking at the knukonceptz wire pants in 12 gauge. The 3:1 heat shrink.
Then the techflex. What size do i need?
And is there anything else i need to purchase to make these properly?
I am going to purchase the TF from furryletters on ebay.

Thank you for any help in advance
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I am about to jump into this head first. I have built large gauge extension cords for welders. So i am not unfamiliar with making cords/cables.
Just nothing like a speaker cable.

I have a fresh spool of 12 gauge 2 conductor speaker wire. Banana plugs.
Now here is where i need some help. I am looking at the knukonceptz wire pants in 12 gauge. The 3:1 heat shrink.
Then the techflex. What size do i need?
And is there anything else i need to purchase to make these properly?
I am going to purchase the TF from furryletters on ebay.

Thank you for any help in advance
This thread references, probably over 500 times, 3/8" TechFlex with 12AWG cable(I read through the whole thread).

The sleeving has a very large range of sizes it can accommodate based on whether it is in it's resting minimum diameter position, or in it's stretched(stretched is probably the wrong word to use here) larger diameter position. The only issue you might have with 12 gauge pants and 12 gauge cable is depending on how you plan to do the 2 conductors after the split, if you are going KnuKonceptz wire pants straight into the banana plug, you should be good to go.

I wanted the sleeved look even on the split conductors, and it also needed to fit inside of the KnuKonceptz pants, I don't think even 1/4" TechFlex can get small enough to fit through 12 gauge pants, so I order the "small" nylon sleeving from mdpc-x to achieve what I wanted.
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Will 6.76 mm (0.266") in dark grey work for you?


https://www.markertek.com/product/bl...o-cable-per-ft


currently around $.35/ foot with free shipping.
Thanks for thank link! I actually picked up some various gauge cable from that seller I posted about a few posts back.

It is pure copper, high strand count cable, wrapped in a pure black jacket. What interested me, other than the great price, is that he said the reason the O.D. of his cable was over 1mm smaller than the same gauge/style cable from Monoprice, is that the manufacturer of the cable he sells simply encases it tighter in the jacket. I have always hated how the Monoprice cable gets flat spots in the jacket itself, to me it looks tacky after being sleeved. I am not sure if the new cable will resolve that problem or make it worse, but we'll see.

I can also double sleeve the cable to resolve the flat spots, and also gain the ability to have cool color combo's like some previous posted pictures, if that new cable doesn't pan out.
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Thanks for thank link! I actually picked up some various gauge cable from that seller I posted about a few posts back.

It is pure copper, high strand count cable, wrapped in a pure black jacket. What interested me, other than the great price, is that he said the reason the O.D. of his cable was over 1mm smaller than the same gauge/style cable from Monoprice, is that the manufacturer of the cable he sells simply encases it tighter in the jacket. I have always hated how the Monoprice cable gets flat spots in the jacket itself, to me it looks tacky after being sleeved. I am not sure if the new cable will resolve that problem or make it worse, but we'll see.

I can also double sleeve the cable to resolve the flat spots, and also gain the ability to have cool color combo's like some previous posted pictures, if that new cable doesn't pan out.

I also bought 20 ft of this, in white. It is completely round and just under 3/8" diameter


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I also bought 20 ft of this, in white. It is completely round and just under 3/8" diameter


http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/2612...-EXWHT-BY-FOOT
$1.92 per foot! I can't justify that.

My speaker wire came in from ebay and just as I suspected, since that jacket is actually smaller than the monoprice wire, it actually has worse flat spots and looks worse when sleeved.

I think I am going to go ahead and purchase some KnuKonceptz Karma cable, I know for a fact it is completely round jacketed because I used to use it in car audio in the distant past and although it doesn't have a black jacket, it's clear jacket should be better than pure white.

My only question about that cable, since I haven't used it in a long time, is the flexibility of it. Karma cable is also about $0.50c per foot, high strand count(100+), and every strand tinned.
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Is there any technique/s that work better for getting the speaker wire through the techflex?

Admittedly, i have not read all posts but have tried to quickly peruse for a good method. I have 2 cables that will be 25' runs.
Thank you to all that have provided information in this thread.
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All this is just amateur hour. Behold the Mack Daddy of cables, the mighty <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=17 89&amp;creative=9325&amp;tag=avsforum_vs-20&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FDeno n-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable%2Fdp%2FB000I1X6PM%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1%3Fie%3DUTF8 %26s%3Delectronics%26qid%3D1294162295%26sr%3D1-1" target="_blank">Denon AKDL1 Dedicated Link Cable</a>. Just read the feedback to see how incredibly awesome this cable truly is - far, far beyond a standard Cat 5 piece.<br><br>
I would strongly recommend <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=17 89&amp;creative=9325&amp;tag=avsforum_vs-20&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMoun tain-Three-Wolf-Short-Sleeve%2Fdp%2FB002HJ377A%2Fref%3Dpd_sbs_a_21" target="_blank">this accessory</a> if you decide that you are in fact worthy of the AKDL1. It takes a discerning breed to recognize the sheer awesomeness of both items - are you that person?</div>
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That's actually pretty funny, a $10,000 item that ships for 5 bucks.
It's down to $7000 now - a real bargin
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