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Man this thread has become a Monster eh?
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Man this thread has become a Monster eh?

Yep, an Evil Monster. Hey-I need to make a 5.1 multichannel cable snake--any suggestions? I made one with techflex/heatshrink last year but it was way too stiff and the RCAs kept popping out.
Anyone made one of these? It needs to be short but flexible.

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Yep, an Evil Monster. Hey-I need to make a 5.1 multichannel cable snake--any suggestions? I made one with techflex/heatshrink last year but it was way too stiff and the RCAs kept popping out.
Anyone made one of these? It needs to be short but flexible.

My BJC LC-1 RCAs are flexible, I have them tied up somewhat like a snake.
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Im thinking I like the heatshrink one?


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My BJC LC-1 RCAs are flexible, I have them tied up somewhat like a snake.

It looks like a 3' cable is $31 unless I'm missing something??

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yeah, can't use cable pants with the rca's on already - in my set up I need 4 single strands (rca's on each end) running from amp to sub and back, so pairing them up and giving them the "evil" treatment seems like a no brainer, but with premades the pants are off so to speak. I have a NAD 3400 integrated amp with a built in pre-out and mains to use with an external pre-amp or crossover. In my case the subs crossover will take the lows and return the highs to the amp. Actually I am going to pull the trigger on a new sub soon. Have a bunch of people coming over this weekend so I figure I don't need the headache of sub set up with guest so I will order after they leave and following weekend hopefully get everything set up. gt some measuring to do to verify the length I will need.

got to tell you, all the great looking cable sets make you want to go out and make some for yourself!
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it looks like a 3' cable is $31 unless i'm missing something??



$15.75
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$15.75

Thanks-they look great but I won't be spending over $100 to build this. If it made an audible difference I'd consider it.

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Im thinking I like the heatshrink one?

completely agree, it just looks finished.
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completely agree, it just looks finished.

really, hmmm

I actually took it off, because I was scared it took away from the look of them. O well, I got plenty of heatshrink.
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I built two new speaker cables this afternoon. It is Japanese made flexible cable with overall cable size of 11mm and each of the 4-conductor wire is 14 AWG. It is very sturdy and very flexible cable with several layers of insulation and clothes strings in it. The banana plug is the locking type and all medal casing.

It is 8' cable. I tinted every wire before I installed the banana plugs on each of wire. The wire and banana plug bonded very well. I tried to yank one out, but it wouldn't budge. I verified each conductor on NWA after banana plugs are installed on both ends. It is as good a through.

I couldn’t wait for the correct cable pant earlier. I used the standard heat shrink tube. The cables are installed on the speakers and receiver earlier. It looks and sounds great. I spent roughly $60 for materials. I want to remove the heat shrink and replace it with the correct cable pant, but I don’t have time. I like it “As Is” for now.


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I like the cleaner look of the one without heatshrink, but that's me.

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nezff: I have got parts-express cable pants 8mm 2-conductor, 3/8" cleancut Techflex from ebay and 14/2 monoprice speaker wire (7.5mm outer diameter). Now I am looking at your pictures and I think I like the heatshrink also. What do you think about the size of heatshrink tubing I should get? I have never done anything with heatshrink but trying to figure out from your pictutes, is that heatshrink tubing sticks/shrinks to super glossy cable pants easily? Also I have same GLS Gen III locking plugs I see the cable pant's conducter are inserted into the plug, how far/deep inside are they inserted? I am assuming up to first set screw but just want to know. thanks.
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heatshrink is very easy to use, and yes it will be fine on the cable pants. Personally, i do NOT like the look of heatshrink at all...but to each their own. The great thing about those knukonceptz cable pants is that even 1/2" tech flex over the monoprice 12 gauge speaker wire fits nicely and snug INSIDE the cable pants....so it gives what I think is a finished professional look...but again to each their own.
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really, hmmm

I actually took it off, because I was scared it took away from the look of them. O well, I got plenty of heatshrink.
Lol they're your cables do what you want
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I tried the cable pants (Cable Pants 11mm 4-Conductor Black) and (Black 3/8 Inch Cable Sleeve) last night, but I didn't like how it look. I decided to leave as bare cable and wire with heatshrink. It's one of a kind looks. Since it connected to all 4 posts to the floor standing speaker for bi-amp, it looks better without the cable pants.

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hey guys, how do you make speaker wires with spade connectors?

i got my spades from home depot, but they keep falling out.....
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The hilarious thing is that you can buy cables that are just as good as high end ables for the amount of mony spent on the parts to make these homade cables.

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The hilarious thing is that you can buy cables that are just as good as high end ables for the amount of mony spent on the parts to make these homade cables.
hehehe, yeah its funny to me that I am spending more on 20 GLS Locking banana plugs than my speaker wire (AudioQuest FLX 14/4).

In my case I decided if I am spending all this money on higher end speakers, recievers, external amps, that I could justify spending ~100 on 3 10 foot custom cables for my fronts . Interconnects are next. Moving from Monoprice to who knows what lol...

But I looked at Blue Jeans Cable and decide the Canare 4S11 wire was about the same as the Audioquest and the Audioquest is cheaper for me and local so I can have it now . Also I want to wire it a couple different ways to hear what sounds best to me and then finish off the wires with speaker pants and whatnot...

If I ever do get some additional wire after this it will be from BJC and I will have them add on the connectors since they can weld them to the wire which makes a better contact point.

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The hilarious thing is that you can buy cables that are just as good as high end ables for the amount of mony spent on the parts to make these homade cables.
You can say that, but certain people included me like doing thing certain way. Just like saying it is cheaper to buy fish from store than go fish at the lake or it is cheaper to buy fruit than growing your own fruit. These are the things I like to do. I grew nearly 20 fruit trees at my previous home, and my next house will be more than that. I enjoy digging the holes and selected trees myself. It is the same thing with building speaker cable. I may not like the cable pants or banana plug or cable color that included in the pre-made cable, but I can make one by myself with my personal touches on it. In my case, I looked at the pre-made cable for very similar spec; it would have cost me twice or more than making it myself.
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Would this be the place to start a discussion on RCA interconnect wire and assembly?

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Would this be the place to start a discussion on RCA interconnect wire and assembly?

I say sure, why not.

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I have never done anything with heatshrink but trying to figure out from
your pictutes, is that heatshrink tubing sticks/shrinks to super glossy cable
pants easily?

I was able to remove 3:1 heat-shrink tubing from the PartsExpress cable pants
without much effort. I did this deliberately and don't think it's a concern for
normal usage. Some heat-shrink tubing is available with an adhesive coating on
the inside. I don't recall the purpose of the adhesive and have no experience
with it.

The thing I don't like about heat-shrink tubing on cable pants: The pants are
shiny and the tubing is dull (matte?). This isn't a functional problem.
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hehehe, yeah its funny to me that I am spending more on 20 GLS Locking banana plugs than my speaker wire (AudioQuest FLX 14/4).

You, too? I bought
  • 50' 14AWG wire: $10
  • Cable pants: $17 (I bought more sizes than I can use)
  • Heat-shrink tubing: $6
  • Soldering iron: $35
  • Solder: $4
  • Soldering stand: $10
  • Third-hand: $8
  • Heat gun: $13
  • Wire cutters: $17 (My $2 cutters don't cut it)
So far, I've built one 12' cable and I need one more.
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You, too? I bought
  • 50' 14AWG wire: $10
  • Cable pants: $17 (I bought more sizes than I can use)
  • Heat-shrink tubing: $6
  • Soldering iron: $35
  • Solder: $4
  • Soldering stand: $10
  • Third-hand: $8
  • Heat gun: $13
  • Wire cutters: $17 (My $2 cutters don't cut it)
So far, I've built one 12' cable and I need one more.

Hehehe....I have a much smaller parts list....

Current parts:
  • 30 ' 14/4 Audioquest wire: $37.5 (1.25 a foot)
  • 20 GLS Locking banana's: $60 (includes shipping)
  • Wire cutters: own

Parts to purchase later:
  • Cable pants: $14
  • Techflex tubing: not sure what size I need just yet
  • Heat-shrink tubing: not purchasing
  • Soldering iron: borrowing
  • Solder: borrowing
  • Soldering stand: borrow
  • Third-hand: borrow
  • Heat gun: borrow

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Monoprice 14/2 speaker wire
Parts-express 8mm 2-conductor cable pants
eBay-Furryletters - 3/8" expandable CLEANCUT Techflex
GLS Audio Gen III locking banana plugs
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the legs on those cable pants look longer than the other PE pants.
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Monoprice 14/2 speaker wire
Parts-express 8mm 2-conductor cable pants
eBay-Furryletters - 3/8" expandable CLEANCUT Techflex
GLS Audio Gen III locking banana plugs

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Cable: A
Parts list included: A

Overall grade: Solid A.
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