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Parts-Express has the cable pants for a very reasonable price, the sizes range from 6mm-11mm and 14mm. Any idea what size I would need for 14 gauge and 12 gauge wire? Thx

I am unsure. The cable pants the OP linked to, according to their description and if I am reading correctly, has an input size of 0.35"/8.89 millimetres for a 12AWG wire. So maybe 8mm will do or 9.5mm. Knowing how snug it is on the OP's setup may help if you are also getting that techflex and speaker wire the OP linked to as well.
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I am unsure. The cable pants the OP linked to, according to their description and if I am reading correctly, has an input size of 0.35"/8.89 millimetres for a 12AWG wire. So maybe 8mm will do or 9.5mm. Knowing how snug it is on the OP's setup may help if you are also getting that techflex and speaker wire the OP linked to as well.

Thanks, I'll probably go with the 9mm. They are $5.50 and sold in packs of 10.
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i would have bought from partsexpress.com if their shipping was reasonable..but sadly it's not even close. they wanted $30.00 or so to send me a pack. screw that
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$30 would be a deal breaker for me too, but to my zip code it was only $4.14 via snail mail
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Ya might be good but $30 for 2 pair? No thx

Yes they are a little pricey. I got mine for a little less from a dealer here in town because I bought so many of them. I spent so much on the rest of my equipment that the money spent on them really didn't matter at the time.
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$30 would be a deal breaker for me too, but to my zip code it was only $4.14 via snail mail

ya, in the USA it's ok,..but try pricing it to Canada using my Postal Code...N9G 2T5 and see what you get
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Really cool looking cables.
You have inspired me to make my own, or at the very least put some clothes on my existing monoprice/BJ cables
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All this is just amateur hour. Behold the Mack Daddy of cables, the mighty Denon AKDL1 Dedicated Link Cable. Just read the feedback to see how incredibly awesome this cable truly is - far, far beyond a standard Cat 5 piece.

I would strongly recommend this accessory if you decide that you are in fact worthy of the AKDL1. It takes a discerning breed to recognize the sheer awesomeness of both items - are you that person?
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All this is just amateur hour. Behold the Mack Daddy of cables, the mighty Denon AKDL1 Dedicated Link Cable. Just read the feedback to see how incredibly awesome this cable truly is - far, far beyond a standard Cat 5 piece.

I would strongly recommend this accessory if you decide that you are in fact worthy of the AKDL1. It takes a discerning breed to recognize the sheer awesomeness of both items - are you that person?


That's actually pretty funny, a $10,000 item that ships for 5 bucks.
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hey if you guys have made some speaker cables using the tips i've posted...i'd love to see some pictures of the results!!!
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I think I might be soon. After finding your thread, I might do an alternate hybrid using the GLS banana ends that RTROSE linked to, the monoprice 12ga wire you recommended, and possibly the wire pants you recommended. Just out of curiosity, what made you go with the white covered CL-2 (in wall) wire vs the regular wire which is slightly cheaper?

Also, what are the thoughts of using the 4-conductor 12AWG cabling that's basically the same as what you recommended? I debating I could use this for bi-amping my front speakers and run a single strand vs two like yours.

Basically like yours I'm considering:

1.) 50-foot 12AWG @ monoprice
2.) Wire pants @ eBay
3.) 20-pack GLS banan plugs @ orange county
Total price ~$65 for 5 separate wires configured for my LCR speakers. I'm on the fence with the flexible sleeves.
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That's actually pretty funny, a $10,000 item that ships for 5 bucks.

Ha! Did you see the customer-submitted amazon photos with this $10K cable product?! This one made me laugh. :-D

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[quote=handruin;19765815]

Just out of curiosity, what made you go with the white covered CL-2 (in wall) wire vs the regular wire which is slightly cheaper?

If you use regular wire in walls, the sheathing will act as a wick if there's a fire.
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That part I'm aware of, but in this application I kind of assumed that Pure-Evil went to the trouble of putting together cables that are visually appealing to be displayed out in the open and not for use inside a wall. That made me question the use of an in-wall wire type for this application.
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I think I might be soon. After finding your thread, I might do an alternate hybrid using the GLS banana ends that RTROSE linked to, the monoprice 12ga wire you recommended, and possibly the wire pants you recommended. Just out of curiosity, what made you go with the white covered CL-2 (in wall) wire vs the regular wire which is slightly cheaper?

Also, what are the thoughts of using the 4-conductor 12AWG cabling that's basically the same as what you recommended? I debating I could use this for bi-amping my front speakers and run a single strand vs two like yours.

Basically like yours I'm considering:

1.) 50-foot 12AWG @ monoprice
2.) Wire pants @ eBay
3.) 20-pack GLS banan plugs @ orange county
Total price ~$65 for 5 separate wires configured for my LCR speakers. I'm on the fence with the flexible sleeves.

If you want to Bi-Wire I would suggest either the 12guage or 14 guage x 4wire ....either woudl be good....actually i'm going to order some fo the 12 x 4 I think...9mm outter diameter is nice and thick :-)
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2


as for why I used the white wrapped cable...because it's thicker and fills the 1/2" tech flex better..and we all know thicker means better sound!
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That makes sense for filling the flex. What about a smaller diameter flex? Or would that diminish the perceived sound quality too much?
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That makes sense for filling the flex. What about a smaller diameter flex? Or would that diminish the perceived sound quality too much?

hehehe...well...i'm all for THICKER is BETTER!!! In fact..i'm considering using 2 strands of the 12 guage inside each techflex 1/2" coating to thicken it up even further...or maybe run duct tape outside of the coating to make it thicker

I figure the more shielding I have the better right?

trust me...take apart or cut in 1/2 a speaker wire the thickness of a garden hose..and what you'll find is just regular old 12 guage or maybe even 14 guage wire inside with LOTS of rubber/plastic coating on it wrapped in tech flex.

you really should read that article over at 6moons regarding their White Lightning cables

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/w...moonshine.html





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btw.....when I get home tonight I'll be hooking these gorgeous cables up to a pair of these.... Aurum Cantus 3 CA

powered bt this.... McIntosh MC2205 205wpc Amplifier


now...sadly the McIntosh is already sold....and the Aurum Cantus are up for sale...but I'll get to enjoy them matched together for a couple weeks at least :-P
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now...sadly the McIntosh is already sold....and the Aurum Cantus are up for sale...but I'll get to enjoy them matched together for a couple weeks at least :-P

Lol. You are never satisfied buddy. I wonder what type of speakers will your try next?
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Lol. You are never satisfied buddy. I wonder what type of speakers will your try next?

Actually I want a pair of Gemme Audio Katana's...I missed out on a great price for a pair in agon...so still looking.
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That part I'm aware of, but in this application I kind of assumed that Pure-Evil went to the trouble of putting together cables that are visually appealing to be displayed out in the open and not for use inside a wall. That made me question the use of an in-wall wire type for this application.


My bad.
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How is everyone connecting the wires to the plugs? solder or just screw tighten?

Life is enjoyable with good quality
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hey if you guys have made some speaker cables using the tips i've posted...i'd love to see some pictures of the results!!!

the rest of my supplies arrived today, but my heat shrink might be too big

i'll post a pic when i do them this weekend

I'm using the locking banana plugs from bluejeans and 3/8 tech flex
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How is everyone connecting the wires to the plugs? solder or just screw tighten?

Either is fine. I tend not to solder cause I swap stuff out all the time
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So...I hooked up the McIntosh tonight and gave a quick listen on my Onix Rocket RS760's Signitures and the sound was nice....I didnt' have time to put the Aurum Cantus back into use...but hopefully this weekend I'll have time to do it. I'm looking forward to hearing those little bookshelves open up again and fill my room with audio joy! :-)
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Great thread, thanks PE! I ordered the sleeving and end boots on ebay as listed by you and already have some speaker wire I will be using. My question is, what are the pros/cons of using banana plugs vs bare wire?
It seems as if the plugs are simply for convenience(plugging and unplugging) sake while bare wire actually provides a better "signal transfer". Is this true?

I am holding off on the banana plug purchase until I determine whats best for me. I do not plan on doing a ton of plugging/unplugging. The wires I am making are for my front three speakers. I am mainly doing this DIY project for esthetics and good insulation from interference ( I went with in wall speaker wire which should help too).

Thanks for any input!

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Yes bare wire is better for connection
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Yes bare wire is better for connection

Great, thats what I thought Saves me from having to buy those pricey little connectors!
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The Nak plugs with the regular banana ends fit much better IMO :

My last speaker wire project used these plugs and I can't stand them. The plug part is OK, but the housing simply refused to stay screwed tight. I'd prefer not to have to threadlok every single wire I make and will be looking at the GLS options for my next project. Also, the opening for the wire entrance is made for something like 4GA wire (an estimate, not certain), and anything else hangs loosely in the middle of them.
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Great, thats what I thought Saves me from having to buy those pricey little connectors!

Pricey? Lol. $1.25 a pair from monoprice.
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