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post #361 of 725 Old 04-27-2011, 03:56 PM
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For those on a budget the SM60F would seem to mate well with a SM96 as a center speaker with SH Micro's for height and surround channels.
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Well, a rather anti-climatic afternoon; UPS was a no-show

Will start rattling their office first thing in the morning...
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Well, a rather anti-climatic afternoon; UPS was a no-show

Will start rattling their office first thing in the morning...


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We need more photos ! I don't care if they are of the boxes
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We need more photos ! I don't care if they are of the boxes

What's the point of seeing a picture of a box? I want pictures of the speakers in a home environment, not a packing box.
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Just spoke with Kansas City's UPS Freight office; they've lost the friggin shipment

How do you lose 500lbs...LOL

They are to call in a couple hours with an update...
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What's the point of seeing a picture of a box? I want pictures of the speakers in a home environment, not a packing box.

Pictures of speakers are way overrated. I'd rather have the speakers.
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Man, this is exciting, watching guys here one by one claiming their very own Danley speakers! Ettepet, you should be getting your custom-finish sm60f's very soon, right? I'm sure Lion has already set up his gorgeous trio sh50s. His 3-way comparison will be a treat for us all; read his exceedingly informative and detailed comments on the Genelec vs Seaton posts if you guys haven't already done so. (Genelec and Klein-Hummel were my choices for years before I discovered Danley.)
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Pictures of speakers are way overrated. I'd rather have the speakers.
I agree! To bad my funds won't allow. Hopefully we'll get info on a Synergy horn kit in the near future.
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Just spoke with Kansas City's UPS Freight office; they've lost the friggin shipment

How do you lose 500lbs...LOL

They are to call in a couple hours with an update...
Man, that really sucks! Hopefully they'll get their act together & very soon!

Maybe someone at the UPS facility just had to hear'em play!
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Just spoke with Kansas City's UPS Freight office; they've lost the friggin shipment

How do you lose 500lbs...LOL

They are to call in a couple hours with an update...

Anyone else invision a guy in a brown UPS uniform setting up a Danley system?

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Pictures of speakers are way overrated. I'd rather have the speakers.
Speaker porn is absolutely not overrated. I want hot speaker on speaker action!
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Apparently they've found the shipment and are delivering today.

edit - I'm too old for this...lol
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Speaker porn is absolutely not overrated. I want hot speaker on speaker action!

Why watch when you can be in the middle of the action?

I have three very active speakers, a couple "more passive", and several willing to go down anytime with anything I throw at them. If you are more of a receiver type I have one available that can be too hot to handle!
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Ivan,

I have a question which may be ignorant or just plain stupid so bear with me .

You take an SM60f and an SH50 and cross them at 80hz to your subs. Then EQ them to the same level. If you then play music with the subs off (with good midbass of course),
-Will the SH50 hit harder with it's 2 12's compared to the 2 8's in the 60f?
-Does crossing them at 80hz eliminate much of the midbass punch to begin with?
-Will having them EQ'ed to the same level make them indistinguishable.
-Is there a certain dbl level where the SH50 would hit harder.

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I am not Ivan, but have some experience to share.
The SH50 has a bit more punch, a bit more body for the instruments, but a bit more prominent mid band. The SM60F has probably a bit smoother, very well balanced sound, a bit more grey, a bit less bright midband, and goes higher, it has dry and well controlled bass and for the first time you hear you will not think of any sub needed (in case stereo music listening), it is really musical, not boring, very lively sound, dynamics to dye for, very close to the SH50 dynamicswise. The 5 inch coax in the SM60F probably a very good speaker on its own right. All the tracks with drums, guitars and rhythm will not disappoint you for sure, and even hard core classical music listeners will be very satisfied with its smoothness. Th SH50 is a bit more tricky if you want to listen classical music, or opera at home.
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... The SH50 is a bit more tricky if you want to listen classical music, or opera at home.

Would you please tell us what you mean by that? What makes you feel that the SH50 is kind of "tricky for classical music listening"?

(I am not telling what I think about my SH50 yet ;-)
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Thanks ference_k.

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Hi All
You know, I don't remember if this came up before but as long as some of you are getting them at the same time, a couple thoughts.

If you are using a normal stereo (no delays etc) use a tape measure to place the R and L speakers the same distance (within an inch or two if you can) from the center seat.

When you're in the set up mode, moving things around still, with the narrower pattern speakers like the SH-50 /SM-60 and so on, BE SURE to try the speakers aimed so that they cross over in front of the listening position.
I have my SH-50's aimed so that the center of the right speaker is pointed at the outside edge of the left most seat (on the couch) and visaversa.
In commercial sound, one often uses the side of the radiation lobe to contour the loudness.
If you aim them like this, crossed over in front of the couch, it makes the sweet spot wider. This works really well even with just two channels.

If it happened to work out that the L and R speaker can be placed against the side walls on their angled side AND still point more or less in the right place, THAT is as close as one can get to outdoors and still be in a room, this works really really well especially for conventional stereo.
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it is really musical, not boring, very lively sound, dynamics to dye for, very close to the SH50 dynamicswise.

I'm not sure I understand. How does listening to a speaker give you the urge to dye? What did it make you want to dye? Clothing? Leather? Wood? I'm just curious mind you.

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i'm not sure i understand. How does listening to a speaker give you the urge to dye? What did it make you want to dye? Clothing? Leather? Wood? I'm just curious mind you.

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I'm not sure I understand. How does listening to a speaker give you the urge to dye? What did it make you want to dye? Clothing? Leather? Wood? I'm just curious mind you.

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I've been away for a couple of days. I took down my SH100 side surrounds and redone the brackets. This time I done it right. Ill post pics soon. Today I hope to have the rear SH100 mounted and will post pics of my system once it's done. Ive very happy with these speakers.
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Would you please tell us what you mean by that? What makes you feel that the SH50 is kind of "tricky for classical music listening"?

(I am not telling what I think about my SH50 yet ;-)

According to my experience, if you did not get the height of the SH50 right, its midrange can become a bit too strong, prominent, which (for me) is not perfect for listening opera. Opera requires very balanced system, and I could reach this only when the SH50 was above the listeners position, to get the SH50 up to this height is not easy because of its weight and size. The SM60 could be much easier taken to this position, using only a simple telescopic speaker stand.
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I laid on the floor listening to mine for 2 hours last night; longest music session I've enjoyed in years.
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I laid on the floor listening to mine for 2 hours last night; longest music session I've enjoyed in years.

Back hurting from hanging speakers?

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I'm not sure I understand. How does listening to a speaker give you the urge to dye? What did it make you want to dye? Clothing? Leather? Wood? I'm just curious mind you.

I am not native English speaker. So I am very sorry if mistyping a word can make my explanation of a subjective experience is not clear for you, I can not explain it better, it is not easy to explain even using my native Hungarian language and I can not guarantee typing without errors at all. If you feel you need to take my words out from its original context, I will not post here anymore, I am not here to play with words.
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No sir, at least not yet.

It was late so I merely placed them on the floor in front of my screen, and I just took some time to kick back and goof.

This weekend I plan to place them behind my screen and pop in a movie; we have been without speakers for ~4 weeks.

I will share one thing though, I must admit, my wife and I both LOL when we opened the first box and unleashed a SH50 in our room. These dudes are huge, and they look very cool. The touring handles are an absolute MUST!!!

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He's making a joke. Get over it.

By the way...your English is very good. We all thought your first language was English.

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I am not native English speaker. So I am very sorry if mistyping a word can make my explanation of a subjective experience is not clear for you, I can not explain it better, it is not easy to explain even using my native Hungarian language and I can not guarantee typing without errors at all. If you feel you need to take my words out from its original context, I will not post here anymore, I am not here to play with words.

Your english is very good, I didn't mean to insult you it was merey a joke. Sorry.

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According to my experience, if you did not get the height of the SH50 right, its midrange can become a bit too strong, prominent, which (for me) is not perfect for listening opera. Opera requires very balanced system, and I could reach this only when the SH50 was above the listeners position, to get the SH50 up to this height is not easy because of its weight and size. The SM60 could be much easier taken to this position, using only a simple telescopic speaker stand.

I see - this makes a lot of sense. Thank you! And don't mind the nitpicking - I feel very confident that our English is way better than their German, Hungarian,... (insert any non-native language you like) will ever be ;-)
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