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New and totally redesigned software for Procella´s DA05/06 amp

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Gave my DA-05 their own rack

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Gave my DA-05 their own rack

Why have the ventilation panels when the amps draft cooling from front to back??
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That was what i hade at home

Up against a wall the panels locks alot darker then the bad Picture.

I´m just testing a few ideas while i´m waiting for my Trinnov, Procella P5v and an CROWN amp
Once those things get here the racks are going to get rebuildt and moved to Another room

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Here is the drawing for the new Procella P5v, Measurement in millimeters

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New video from ISE2016


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Found some interesting Pictures from an event i China.

New P5iW



P5v in Black




New P15-Amp Single

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Back of the P5V...Screws and fittings will be white on the final Product



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I've heard conflicting reports on the Procella P5V, so I thought I would ask those in the know here.

Will the P5V be an in-wall speaker? Some say yes, some say no. Will it have the capability to angle or cant? Does anyone know when it will be available and what the cost will be?
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See when Gerben of Procella picks it down from the wall in the video in post #367 . . .its a thin ON-wall speaker 100% sure, just look att the Pictures


If you want to angle it, just use a VESA 100 bracket ...see back panel in Picture in post #369


The first batch will hopfully start to ship in a few weeks, price $999
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See when Gerben of Procella picks it down from the wall in the video in post #367 . . .its a thin ON-wall speaker 100% sure, just look att the Pictures


If you want to angle it, just use a VESA 100 bracket ...see back panel in Picture in post #369


The first batch will hopfully start to ship in a few weeks, price $999
Thanks, Jolt you are a wealth of information!

Any advantage to using the P5v over the P5 in a dedicated theater?

Do you know if Procella always uses the P5 for surrounds and height speakers in all it's showrooms? I know it's a great speaker, but it's also the weakest link in my new build. I'm wondering if I should bump up to the P6/P6v/P6iw in my room or stay with the P5. Procella did their surrounds and heights with the P5 in this years demo and last years, so that makes me feel maybe the P5 is also the way to go. It would save $10,000 retail across 10 speakers.
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I just responded to your PM

But for everybody else..here is my answer.

"The P5 and the P5V will sound exactly the same, what you get is neater finnish and a less Deep speaker.

The P5v is 9cm less Deep, so as sides and hight speakers you will have a few inches further from your ears to the speaker.

But if you dont need the thinner look, just go for the P5.

I hade P6 as rears but sold them and bought the P5V, i dont play so loud that i need the P6 as rears.

I personally dont Think you need a speaker as sides/rears/hight that can play super loud..
it´s almost never even Close in volume in these speakers compared to the LCR speakers.

If you look at Procellas demo systems they almost allways go with the P5 as sides/rears/hight.

At the ISE2016 demo thay hade a 11.4.11 system with the big P815 as LCR and 19xP5 as sides/rears/hight

The P815 can play ridiculously loud...but STILL the P5 worked fine in that system...all the big SPL is in the LCR speakers

Basicly ALL Procellas own demos is with P5 as sides/rears/hight speakers.

In Kina and Asia many Procella demo systems have P6 as sides/rears/hight and P815 as LCR but you don´t need to."

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I just responded to your PM

But for everybody else..here is my answer.

"The P5 and the P5V will sound exactly the same, what you get is neater finnish and a less Deep speaker.

The P5v is 9cm less Deep, so as sides and hight speakers you will have a few inches further from your ears to the speaker.

But if you dont need the thinner look, just go for the P5.

I hade P6 as rears but sold them and bought the P5V, i dont play so loud that i need the P6 as rears.

I personally dont Think you need a speaker as sides/rears/hight that can play super loud..
it´s almost never even Close in volume in these speakers compared to the LCR speakers.

If you look at Procellas demo systems they almost allways go with the P5 as sides/rears/hight.

At the ISE2016 demo thay hade a 11.4.11 system with the big P815 as LCR and 19xP5 as sides/rears/hight

The P815 can play ridiculously loud...but STILL the P5 worked fine in that system...all the big SPL is in the LCR speakers

Basicly ALL Procellas own demos is with P5 as sides/rears/hight speakers.

In Kina and Asia many Procella demo systems have P6 as sides/rears/hight and P815 as LCR but you don´t need to."
Thanks Jolt! You're awesome and seriously a wealth of information.

I saw on the sheets posted above the P5v and P5iw were listed at 105dB continuous and 111dB peak with a 24mm voice coil.

On the US Procella web site, the P5 is listed as 113dB continuous and 119dB peak (baffle wall) and 107dB continuous, 113dB peak freestanding with a 26mm voice coil.

I wasn't sure if the information was off somewhere or if there was a very slight change in performance between the P5 and P5v/P5iw.

Nyal said he wouldn't expect to be able to get the P5v until August and possibly later here in the US. If the speakers were exactly the same and I could get any version, I would want the in-walls or at least the P5v, because they are slimmer. Like you said, it puts ears a little further away. Since I'm short on space, every few inches help. My theater will likely be ready to start installing A/V equipment within 30 to 60 days...hopefully. If it really takes that long to get the P5v/P5iw, they may not be an option.
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Hmm have´t noticed that 2dB max output and 2mm voice coil difference . .from the info i got i should be the same drivers in the P5 series.

I have to check this with Procella, perhaps the P5 driver was to Deep for the P5v cabinet.

If all goes well i will have my P5v late May, but i´m among the firsts in line

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Hmm have´t noticed that 2dB max output and 2mm voice coil difference . .from the info i got i should be the same drivers in the P5 series.

I have to check this with Procella, perhaps the P5 driver was to Deep for the P5v cabinet.

If all goes well i will have my P5v late May, but i´m among the firsts in line
Yeah, I was a little surprised the specifications were listed differently in your Post #368 on this thread for the output and voice coil size compared to the US site for Procella on the P5, which is listed as a slightly bigger voice coil (26mm) and more output.

http://procellaspeakers.com/products/loudspeakers/#p5

Perhaps your Procella contact can clear that up? I would love to hear what you think of your P5v compared to the P5 once you get them. Let me know if you find anything out about the difference in specs on the P5 series.
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I send Procella a email about this with a link to this tread. . i will post the answer here
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Here's some clarification on the various versions of the P5 and the website. First, there is one global website for Procella, and that is www.procellaspeakers.com. There is no separate U.S. website.

The P5 will be available in three versions: the current P5, the slimline P5V, and the P5iW in-wall. The two new versions will be available soon, but I don't have an exact delivery date. They will be available in Europe before they are available in the U.S. simply because of shipping considerations.

The current specs for the P5 apply to all three versions, and all three versions use the same components. The Chinese slides with the alternate P5 specs were created with preliminary information, and do not show the final specs.
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Here's some clarification on the various versions of the P5 and the website. First, there is one global website for Procella, and that is www.procellaspeakers.com. There is no separate U.S. website.

The P5 will be available in three versions: the current P5, the slimline P5V, and the P5iW in-wall. The two new versions will be available soon, but I don't have an exact delivery date. They will be available in Europe before they are available in the U.S. simply because of shipping considerations.

The current specs for the P5 apply to all three versions, and all three versions use the same components. The Chinese slides with the alternate P5 specs were created with preliminary information, and do not show the final specs.
Chuck Back, thank you for the clarifications. It is good to know the P5 models will all use the same components. When you do know delivery dates, would you please post them here? I am personally interested in the US delivery dates, but I know others here are interested in the European dates as well.

Thank you!
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I will post Pictures as soon as i get my P5v, i am probably among the very first to get them.

The latest i Heard was mid-May delivery.

Thanks to Chuck for clearing up that all the P5 series has the same drivers
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Finally the software update for the DA-05 / 06 arrived. I highly recommend all of you who run these amplifiers together with Procellas subwoofers to upgrade. As I understand Procella has worked a lot with how the amplifier should supply power at low frequencies. I experienced very big difference with the new software. It was worth the wait, now I also has the correct output from my DA-06 2400W for my P15-FP, maybe a bit overkill but it feels good to know that there is some headroom
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I chose the Procella P8 over the JTR 228HT and 228HTR

After hours and hours of testing by viewing movies and tv in my dedicated theater room, I chose the Procella P8. I am converting my theater from an electric Stewart Filmscreen, non perforated, to a perforated screen with a baffle wall and working with Nyal Mellor at Acoustic Frontiers for all my acoustic design and modeling.

The JTR are amazing speakers and can play extremely loud but I typically watch movies at -10db to -5db from reference. At these levels the Procella's sounded more natural for voices but also sounded great during action scenes. I am really happy with the P8 sound. Not bright and easy on the ears at high volume. I will report more as my project moves forward.

I want to thank Chuck Back for allowing me to demo the P8 before I purchased. That made the decision much easier!

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I too have chosen Procella P8 for my LCR. I will be using Procella P5 for my 10 surround and height channels. I really liked the sound and they were very compact, which is a big deal for my room.

Nyal Mellor did my theater design as well. Unfortunately, no love from Chuck for me though.

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Current Gear: Procella P8 (LCR), Procella P6V (2 Front Side), Procella P5 (2 Rear Side, 2 Rear, 4 Ceiling), Crown DCi 8|300 (2), Deep Sea Sound Custom 18" Mariana (4), SpeakerPower SP2-12000-HT, Yamaha CX-A5100, Xilica XP-8080 (2), JVC RS400, 2.37 Seymour AV 120" UF Screen, Kaleidescape Strato.
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I too have chosen Procella P8 for my LCR. I will be using Procella P5 for my 10 surround and height channels. I really liked the sound and they were very compact, which is a big deal for my room.

Nyal Mellor did my theater design as well. Unfortunately, no love from Chuck for me though.
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How did you create the 3D image of your movie room? I have tried Sweet Home 3D but I need to locate some instructions. I can build walls but adding things like the steps and different levels in my theater, became tricky.

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How did you create the 3D image of your movie room? I have tried Sweet Home 3D but I need to locate some instructions. I can build walls but adding things like the steps and different levels in my theater, became tricky.
http://www.sketchup.com/

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ntroducing the Procella V18 - 10th Anniversary - The Bass Engine!

Why the V18? Because our best customers around the world asked for an even more powerful subwoofer than the P18! Mind you, the P18 sub is one of our best selling products of the last 10 years, and at 133 dB max SPL, the P18 is a pure heavy weight. The Procella V18 crushes in with 50% MORE POWER at 136 dB max SPL, using our proven V-arrangement, as used in the P860 bass engine, the V6.

Placing the two hand-made-in-Italy, studio-quality with neodymium magnets, 18" drivers in a tight V-arrangement, their output is not only coupled, but also highly compression loaded, resulting in stunningly, nay
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loud, transient and accurate bass, with most of the 3dB more power gain at low frequencies, just where you want it. Bass lovers will choke on the -3dB frequency of 18Hz!

The V18 is not only bigger in output, it is also a physical brute. It gets shipped in it's own crate, it weighs in at 100Kg and it sits big at 105 x 52 x 67 cm (or 42 x 21 x 27"), so this is not a small, compact or shallow subwoofer like all the other Procella subs. With the V18, we are claiming some real estate! Make space for the bass!

The Procella V18 requires DSP processing in the amplifier, we recommend the Procella DA06 amplifier, one per V18! The Procella V18 is recommended for use in medium/large to very large rooms, together with the Procella P815 or P860 loudspeakers.

Facts:
Cabinet, drivers and amplifiers are all made in Europe.
Assembled and individually QA tested in the Procella Audio factory in Ljusdal, Sweden
Use two pair of 4mm2 or 6mm2 speaker wire to connect the V18 to the DA06

RRP is USD $7,499 ex VAT/GST. First ship: July 2016

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Nice...but where are those P5iW?!?!

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Current Gear: Procella P8 (LCR), Procella P6V (2 Front Side), Procella P5 (2 Rear Side, 2 Rear, 4 Ceiling), Crown DCi 8|300 (2), Deep Sea Sound Custom 18" Mariana (4), SpeakerPower SP2-12000-HT, Yamaha CX-A5100, Xilica XP-8080 (2), JVC RS400, 2.37 Seymour AV 120" UF Screen, Kaleidescape Strato.
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My P5v got delayed

The first batch of cabinets for the P5v did not meet Procellas standard so Procella had to use Another factory and make new ones..

Don´t know when the P5iW will be out

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I'm interested in the Procella P5 but I'm having a hard time finding reviews
I will be using them for movies only, not music, with five identical speakers
But why should I buy these instead of one of the mainstream brands like Monitor Audio or B & W?
I would be very interested in hearing about real life experiences
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I have been offered to buy five P5 speakers and pay only for four
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