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They got a real good review, in Home Theater Magazine - I believe they
measured -3db at 143hz.

Close.
The measurements in the review are:

-3db @ 148 hz
-6db @ 134 hz

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Hi Jim,

Found these in the UK - Fatboy Speakers from Fatman - just so you know!

http://www.fat-man.co.uk/docs/produc...rs_Mk_II.shtml

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Them there speakers look like Bowers & Wilkin's.

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Close.
The measurements in the review are:
-3db @ 148 hz
-6db @ 134 hz

I left the magazine at the store! Not my type of speaker - however, I like the company.

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They got a real good review, in Home Theater Magazine - I believe they measured -3db at 143hz

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Moved this Post to the new Minx Thread.

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Would you happen to have a link? I just searched the site for 'cambridge audio', but wasn't able to find the article.

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http://www.hometheater.com/content/c...speaker-system

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Added 1 coaxial, 1 single driver and 1 "sort-of-relates" speakers.

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The Role company is the one, that seems to draw my attention.
The Skiff looks interesting.

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The Role company is the one, that seems to draw my attention. The Skiff looks interesting.

There's not much I can find about them on the internet, but what I can was quite positive. I actually got in contact with the owner about the Skiff, and he seemed like a very personable and knowledgeable guy. If he had a dual-speaker Skiff, or something I could use as a center (their Discovery is too large for my application) I may very well have bought them myself. I was that impressed.

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Looks like the same housing, doesn't it? Nice price. Also, the midbass drivers are different between the two brands but not sure about the tweeters.

Frequency Response: 30HZ - 22KHZ

This must be the full FR, not the rated -3 db.

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The UFi UCube uses a 1.5" square BMR driver with an internal 15 watt amp, all run through a single USB connection. Portable hif... hey wait a minute, I just said that! Except for the enclosure these two seem to be clones.

Inside UCubes


We designed UCubes with equal parts science and art. DSP-controlled power supplies and DSP-equalized signals for the very special BMR Balanced Mode Radiator driver deliver an astounding 170 degrees of stereo image so everyone can enjoy the experience. UCubes are artful too; their gorgeous custom aluminum stands put them at just the right angle for listening, and their smooth, shiny surfaces and beautifully curved sides look iconic, elegant and awesome!

Go to the UFi Media Page for the full 20/20!
Visit our website here!

Features

3.25-inches square • 6-inches high with stands
Powered via USB port
Digital input via computer USB port
Ultra-efficient Digital Signal Processing (DSP) Amplifier
Wideband BMR (Balanced Mode Radiator) Driver
30W (2 x 15 Watts RMS) Equivalent Power Output
Extremely wide listening angles up to 170 degrees
Package Includes
UCube USB Digital Speakers x 2
Brushed aluminum desktop speaker stands
1-meter (3.28-ft.) USB 2.0 cable
1-meter (3.28-ft.) RCA audio cable

Source: http://www.avguide.com/article/ucube...m_content=BG+4

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Why are they "The Best" right now?

Orb speakers are made and assembled in the United States with the exception of the driver which is outsourced from China and assembled here.
Maybe, this is what they need to state on their company Web page.

I could care less where something's made.

The KEF KHT3005SE is the best of this lot because it measures (on axis AND sound power) better than anything else in the class. It also to me subjectively sounds better, having beaten the Tannoy Arena (and other speakers) in a blind listening test. (The results of that test led me to stop looking for a third Arena in either white or grey to match my existing pairs, and buy a set of the KEFs for a new modest system.

The KHT3005SE also gets louder than anything that small has any right to do. The KHT3005SE might be voiced a bit polite for some - its top end is not flat but shelved in a controlled manner - but IMO that balance is appropriate for the small rooms and short listening distances for which such speakers should be designed. NONE of them will get loud enough to accurately convey musical performances in very large rooms.

It also frankly images better than anything else I've ever heard, including my reference speakers, Tannoy 12 DMT II's - 12" coaxial driver - in bespoke cabinets designed first and foremost for minimum diffraction. (The Tannoys are considerably better in every other aspect of reproduction, mind. But not imaging.)

We're talking speakers that EACH cost about as much four whole KHT3005SE sets (including the bespoke cabinets), and are obviously much much larger, with each loudspeaker having roughly the radiating area of an entire KHT3005SE set INCLUDING the sub. The reason is likely the combination of the Uni-Q's broader (but well-controlled) dispersion and the small, sculpted baffle. (The baffle is concave both vertically and horizontally.) Note that the new statement KEF Blade has the same shape for its Uni-Q's baffle.

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I could care less where something's made.

The KEF KHT3005SE is the best of this lot because it measures (on axis AND sound power) better than anything else in the class. It also to me subjectively sounds better, having beaten the Tannoy Arena (and other speakers) in a blind listening test. (The results of that test led me to stop looking for a third Arena in either white or grey to match my existing pairs, and buy a set of the KEFs for a new modest system.

The KHT3005SE also gets louder than anything that small has any right to do. The KHT3005SE might be voiced a bit polite for some - its top end is not flat but shelved in a controlled manner - but IMO that balance is appropriate for the small rooms and short listening distances for which such speakers should be designed. NONE of them will get loud enough to accurately convey musical performances in very large rooms.

It also frankly images better than anything else I've ever heard, including my reference speakers, Tannoy 12 DMT II's - 12" coaxial driver - in bespoke cabinets designed first and foremost for minimum diffraction. (The Tannoys are considerably better in every other aspect of reproduction, mind. But not imaging.)

We're talking speakers that EACH cost about as much four whole KHT3005SE sets (including the bespoke cabinets), and are obviously much much larger, with each loudspeaker having roughly the radiating area of an entire KHT3005SE set INCLUDING the sub. The reason is likely the combination of the Uni-Q's broader (but well-controlled) dispersion and the small, sculpted baffle. (The baffle is concave both vertically and horizontally.) Note that the new statement KEF Blade has the same shape for its Uni-Q's baffle.

The comment regarding the Orbs wasn't directed at you. It was a general comment directed to those who were curious.

I've always wondered about the KEF top-of-the-line satellite speakers, even though they are out of my price range. Appreciate the write-up.

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Added 5 full range speakers. Looks like I might be nearing the end though, because it's getting harder and harder to find new ones now.

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Added 5 full range speakers. Looks like I might be nearing the end though, because it's getting harder and harder to find new ones now.

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Oh Ye Of Such Little Faith! Add these Beautiful British Beauties to your list!

M-iSphere: http://www.mission.co.uk/Series.aspx?lang=En&Tab=16

M-iSphere mini: http://www.mission.co.uk/Product.asp...isphere%20mini

8 Ball Audio Highball: http://www.audioaffair.co.uk/8-Ball-...r/product_5503

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M-iSphere: http://www.mission.co.uk/Series.aspx?lang=En&Tab=16

M-iSphere mini: http://www.mission.co.uk/Product.asp...isphere%20mini

8 Ball Audio Highball: http://www.audioaffair.co.uk/8-Ball-...r/product_5503
Ha, I beat ya' to the punch! Well, on 2 out of 3 anyway...

Both of the Mission's I added on the 5/26 update, but the 8 Ball speakers are a new one on me. I'll add those during the next update. So what else can you find for me?

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I still say that the one driver BMR is the way to go, but when it comes to the Cambridge Audio Minx 2 1/4" driver, it should sound better having multiples per channel. Although, this can be expensive considering their retail pricing. IMO: All other "Wide Range" drivers pale in comparison.

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I still say that the one driver BMR is the way to go, but when it comes to the Cambridge Audio Minx 2 1/4" driver, it should sound better having multiples per channel. Although, this can be expensive considering their retail pricing. IMO: All other "Wide Range" drivers pale in comparison.

After reading this thread, I ordered a pair of those drivers from Parts Express. I thought they might be an improvement over the Aura Whisper 2" widebanders I've used on-and-off (mostly on; swaps of KEF's Ci50 widebander and Peerless' 830970 widebander were both short-lived)

Is it the same class as the Aura Whisper, let alone the 3" KEF Uni-Q's in their HTS1005 sat (widely available for ~$70 each). Not even close. Even after significant EQ informed by measurements they just didn't get loud very cleanly, and had some odd-sounding behavior in the midrange. The xmax is also nowhere near claimed.

Admittedly, I'm comparing it with a driver that, while cheap, occupies the bleeding edge of what is possible in a too-small driver. (Linkwitz uses it for the highs in his Pluto speaker.) But that notwithstanding I wouldn't consider the tiny NXT driver a good foundation for high-fidelity reproduction. There are much better units in that size class, albeit none that are quite as bargain-basement in price.

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After reading this thread, I ordered a pair of those drivers from Parts Express. I thought they might be an improvement over the Aura Whisper 2" widebanders I've used on-and-off (mostly on; swaps of KEF's Ci50 widebander and Peerless' 830970 widebander were both short-lived)

The reason why, is because you purchased a 2" driver. Plus, the one you received is square not round.

But seriously, it could be the design of the final speaker (product) because the Cambridge Audio Minx sounds pretty decent to me, compared to a lot of other satellite speakers that I had the opportunity to demo. The professional reviews alone rave about the Minx systems.

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After reading this thread, I ordered a pair of those drivers from Parts Express.
After looking at the photos of the BMR driver you purchased, it's not the same as the one used in the Cambridge Audio Minx systems. The Minx use a dual voice coil driver. The one you purchased does not. This could equate to the sound difference that you heard (not liking the one you purchased) because of the different design. The drivers used in the Minx systems are custom made by HiWave for Cambridge Audio exclusively.

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This thread has been very helpful. I originally thought my only option for tiny surrounds were the orb mod1 and nanosats, but you have given many more options.
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