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Thanks steveting99. That is exactly my intended use of the Minx 11. Looking at the radiator design led me to believe it would be a wide dispersion driver. The speakers arrived today and I got the top front installed. Unfortunately, Amazon jacked up the delivery of the second set of mounting brackets so I have to wait until tomorrow to mount the top rear. Looking forward to the end result.

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i thought that the front ceiling speakers were supposed to be near the fronts... not near the couch (like Front-Heights).

sure thing is that IF i ever consider (too expensive) Atmos for my space, i can't have that configuration... since my Surround backs are on the ceiling. My room is almost 2 meters high, and the surround backs are 1,5 m behind my couch.
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i thought that the front ceiling speakers were supposed to be near the fronts... not near the couch (like Front-Heights)....
No.

Look at the Dolby Atmos home theater installation guide. There are a number of Amtos configurations available, the most basic is 5.1.2 which has the ceiling speakers to the side of the Main Listening Position. See figure 8 below.


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...sure thing is that IF i ever consider (too expensive) Atmos for my space, i can't have that configuration... since my Surround backs are on the ceiling. My room is almost 2 meters high, and the surround backs are 1,5 m behind my couch.
The important take away is achieving the angles as suggested in the installation guide. Dolby recommends that main channels are at ear height. With your room being such a short floor to ceiling height, the Atmos enabled modules are the most likely way - if you ever decide to try Atmos out. This assumes your ceiling is flat and reflective.

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I just realized this morning the one thing I wasn't really thinking about when I decided to purchase the Minx 11 for my Atmos height speakers: sensitivity. I now have an 8db gap between my ML Motion 60XTs and the Minx 11. Very curious to see how the Marantz handles that.

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I just realized this morning the one thing I wasn't really thinking about when I decided to purchase the Minx 11 for my Atmos height speakers: sensitivity. I now have an 8db gap between my ML Motion 60XTs and the Minx 11. Very curious to see how the Marantz handles that.
Run Audyssey setup, it will set the correct levels and distances for each speaker.This based on where your Main Listening Position is at and each speaker achieving 75dB in the room.

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Run Audyssey setup, it will set the correct levels and distances for each speaker.This based on where your Main Listening Position is at and each speaker achieving 75dB in the room.
That is my plan. I have ordered a set of Gallo Nucleus Micros as well for comparison. They are a slightly bigger driver, more sensitive, and a known quantity to me as I have heard systems using them. They just happen to be more expensive, but they are on sale right now with their mounting bracket so I couldn't pass up the opportunity to evaluate them for Atmos duty.

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Since I am going to upgrade to a new AVR, I might buy a pair of Cambridge C46 ceiling speakers (for Atmos) to incorporate into my existing:


Current setup is 5.1

Fronts/Center - Kef LS50
Rear - Minx 11
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Since I am going to upgrade to a new AVR, I might buy a pair of Cambridge C46 ceiling speakers (for Atmos) to incorporate into my existing:


Current setup is 5.1

Fronts/Center - Kef LS50
Rear - Minx 11
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You might want to consider the KEF E301 for the surround duty to match with the LS50. When I contacted KEF about timbre matching the LS50 with the E301, the reply was positive.

You then have the main channels at ear height as per the Dolby Atmos recommendation.

That leaves the Atmos ceiling height speakers which the existing Min11 can be used for. The Min11 are light weight and with the wall bracket should be easy to mount on the ceiling.

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tractng,

You might want to consider the KEF E301 for the surround duty to match with the LS50. When I contacted KEF about timbre matching the LS50 with the E301, the reply was positive.

You then have the main channels at ear height as per the Dolby Atmos recommendation.

That leaves the Atmos ceiling height speakers which the existing Min11 can be used for. The Min11 are light weight and with the wall bracket should be easy to mount on the ceiling.

Just a thought.
You mentioned that a while back too . I bought the E301 but dam it is too large for my taste to be hanging on walls (I used to have HSU bookshelf on the wall but things have changed, need to balance the look). I have an opened box for sale. The E301 sound is incredible and clean but I can't seem to fit in nicely in the living room.
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You mentioned that a while back too . I bought the E301 but dam it is too large for my taste to be hanging on walls (I used to have HSU bookshelf on the wall but things have changed, need to balance the look). I have an opened box for sale. The E301 sound is incredible and clean but I can't seem to fit in nicely in the living room.
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If you don't like hanging off the wall, might be interested in the stands for the E301. The stands will make them ear height and getting the right angles as per Dolby's Atmos recommendation is easy.

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Looking for a sub to complete my Minx21 surround setup. Usage 90% for movies/tv-shows, rest music (rock/pop). I've neighbours and small kids, so I don't want boomy stuff, looking for nice tight controlled bass. Placement of sub is in a corner, tile foor, right next to a sofa. I know ported subs will probably go deeper and or will be more present in movies, but I hope a sealed sub is easier to place without getting boomy right next to the sofa? Size-wise ~35cm*35cm*35cm is the max I will go.

In doubt between CA Minx X300, X500 (if I can get one, seems discontinued (why?)), or SVS SB-1000. Prices here are X300=€600, X500=€800 and SB-1000=€500. So spec-wise the SB-1000 seems to be the biggest bang for the buck, but I'm reading some reviews saying the SB1000 is not delivering much oomph for movies...

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Looking for a sub to complete my Minx21 surround setup. Usage 90% for movies/tv-shows, rest music (rock/pop). I've neighbours and small kids, so I don't want boomy stuff, looking for nice tight controlled bass. Placement of sub is in a corner, tile foor, right next to a sofa. I know ported subs will probably go deeper and or will be more present in movies, but I hope a sealed sub is easier to place without getting boomy right next to the sofa? Size-wise ~35cm*35cm*35cm is the max I will go.

In doubt between CA Minx X300, X500 (if I can get one, seems discontinued (why?)), or SVS SB-1000. Prices here are X300=€600, X500=€800 and SB-1000=€500. So spec-wise the SB-1000 seems to be the biggest bang for the buck, but I'm reading some reviews saying the SB1000 is not delivering much oomph for movies...

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Have a look at the roll off at the top end of the sub as it will indicate how high the crossover can go. The higher the better.

Since you're interested in a certain sized sub, you might be interested in the Rythmik F12 here: http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F12.html and there is a thread for the Rythmik subs here in AVS: Official Rythmik Audio Subwoofer thread

I have the Rythmik F12G (the paper cone version vs. the aluminium on the F12) and it matches very well with the KEF E301 satellites.

PSA have their XS15se (a little big for your requirement): http://www.powersoundaudio.com/products/xs15se

Reaction Audio BPS212 looks nice and is competitively priced here: http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/...ered-subwoofer

You might also want look at HSU and ask in the thread.

SVS SB2000 is another good option.

Note that a single sub would not deal with room modes and provide a smooth bass across a large sweet spot. I've found out the hard way that only multiple subs can adequately deal with this problem.

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Hoping for some help..I disconnected my speaker wire from my 3 fronts Min21's...I hooked them back up and now it seems I am getting more bass from them and less from the Sub...so when I turn up the music to Min21's pop from trying to put out too much bass. Any idea what I've done? I redid the YPAO mic on my Yamaha RXA-1020 but it doesn't seem to be helping. Setup shows all speakers 3 Min21's and 2 Min20's (rears ) and Sub all set as Normal - shows all speakers small and sub at 200Hz. For some reason it is showing my sub as farther away from me than my speakers..but it's a little bit closer actually. CONFUSED - they were working perfect for a long time until I screwed around with the speaker wire...actually...just removed and reattached.

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Hoping for some help..I disconnected my speaker wire from my 3 fronts Min21's...I hooked them back up and now it seems I am getting more bass from them and less from the Sub...so when I turn up the music to Min21's pop from trying to put out too much bass. Any idea what I've done? I redid the YPAO mic on my Yamaha RXA-1020 but it doesn't seem to be helping. Setup shows all speakers 3 Min21's and 2 Min20's (rears ) and Sub all set as Normal - shows all speakers small and sub at 200Hz. For some reason it is showing my sub as farther away from me than my speakers..but it's a little bit closer actually. CONFUSED - they were working perfect for a long time until I screwed around with the speaker wire...actually...just removed and reattached.
Just a guess, but it's possible that the fronts were originally wired out of phase and when you re-connected them, the wires were connected correctly, i.e. in phase. That would account for the augmentation of the bass from the fronts.

One other point, is the sub in the back of the room? If so, the sub's phase should be set at 180, not 0, otherwise the sub would be out of phase with the front speakers.. Once you have re-inspected all the connections and set the phase correctly in the sub, re-run your YPAO and all should be fine (and I expect your crossover setting will drop down to 150, or something close to that).

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Just a guess, but it's possible that the fronts were originally wired out of phase and when you re-connected them, the wires were connected correctly, i.e. in phase. That would account for the augmentation of the bass from the fronts.

One other point, is the sub in the back of the room? If so, the sub's phase should be set at 180, not 0, otherwise the sub would be out of phase with the front speakers.. Once you have re-inspected all the connections and set the phase correctly in the sub, re-run your YPAO and all should be fine (and I expect your crossover setting will drop down to 150, or something close to that).
tv is above fireplace, sub is down on the floor beside the fireplace. I think the fronts are wired fine...but I will recheck and make sure I have them set up properly...thanks. I will have to do this tomorrow am.
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For some reason it is showing my sub as farther away from me than my speakers..but it's a little bit closer actually.
This is common. Distance measurements are based on time delays from the driver to the microphone. Internal delays in the subwoofer make it appear farther away than a tape measure would indicate. Leave this value.

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One other point, is the sub in the back of the room? If so, the sub's phase should be set at 180, not 0, otherwise the sub would be out of phase with the front speakers.. Once you have re-inspected all the connections and set the phase correctly in the sub, re-run your YPAO and all should be fine (and I expect your crossover setting will drop down to 150, or something close to that).
I'm not so sure that this value should be set based on the sub being in the back of the room. Check out this link for more info:
What is the Phase Switch for behind my Sub?

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I'm not so sure that this value should be set based on the sub being in the back of the room. Check out this link for more info:
What is the Phase Switch for behind my Sub?
Yeah, I'm aware it is a more complex issue than just 0 or 180, but most subs do not have a variable phase "dial". So, it's one or the other. Typically, in the back of the room, 180 will yield better results than 0. And since his sub is in the front of the room, it's all moot.
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Yeah, I'm aware it is a more complex issue than just 0 or 180, but most subs do not have a variable phase "dial". So, it's one or the other. Typically, in the back of the room, 180 will yield better results than 0. And since his sub is in the front of the room, it's all moot.

I wasn't even talking about variable phase. Phase is based on the difference of the distance of the drivers to the MLP, not the direction. If they differ by n wavelengths, phase should be 0. If they differ by (n+1/2) wavelengths, phase should be 180. I will agree that having the subwoofer in front is more likely to warrant 0 degrees, since the distance to the sub is often comparable to the distance to the mains, but this isn't always the case depending on the layout. The relatively high crossover frequency of the Minx makes is easier to be out of phase (1/2 wavelength is ~1.25m @ 130 Hz). I'm less likely to agree that the back of the room will typically be 180. If the distance to the sub is independent of the distance to the mains, I'd be inclined to say that it will be 180 50% of the time.

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I wasn't even talking about variable phase. Phase is based on the difference of the distance of the drivers to the MLP, not the direction. If they differ by n wavelengths, phase should be 0. If they differ by (n+1/2) wavelengths, phase should be 180. I will agree that having the subwoofer in front is more likely to warrant 0 degrees, since the distance to the sub is often comparable to the distance to the mains, but this isn't always the case depending on the layout. The relatively high crossover frequency of the Minx makes is easier to be out of phase (1/2 wavelength is ~1.25m @ 130 Hz). I'm less likely to agree that the back of the room will typically be 180. If the distance to the sub is independent of the distance to the mains, I'd be inclined to say that it will be 180 50% of the time.
In my book, variable phase is the way to go. I had a sub on the side of a room and the ability to have variable phase really helped to integrate it into the soundfield. That's my experience, yours may differ.

As to 0 or 180, often either selection is a compromise. Playing with positioning, phase, crossover, gain, "distance", all converge to either make or break the overall experience. He'll just have to keep working at it until he is satisfied.
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Just a guess, but it's possible that the fronts were originally wired out of phase and when you re-connected them, the wires were connected correctly, i.e. in phase. That would account for the augmentation of the bass from the fronts.

One other point, is the sub in the back of the room? If so, the sub's phase should be set at 180, not 0, otherwise the sub would be out of phase with the front speakers.. Once you have re-inspected all the connections and set the phase correctly in the sub, re-run your YPAO and all should be fine (and I expect your crossover setting will drop down to 150, or something close to that).
I don't know...I don't think anything has changed...they sound like complete garbage if you try to get any volume out of them. Still sound like they are trying to put out too much bass...I've done the setup thing a few times now. Pathetic...I wish I had just stuck with the Bose system I had purchased...the guy at the store talked me into bringing it back and buying the min11's actually the min10's...they were even worse..so I upgraded to the min11's...disappointing...weird I had them working well...
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I don't know...I don't think anything has changed...they sound like complete garbage if you try to get any volume out of them. Still sound like they are trying to put out too much bass...I've done the setup thing a few times now. Pathetic...I wish I had just stuck with the Bose system I had purchased...the guy at the store talked me into bringing it back and buying the min11's actually the min10's...they were even worse..so I upgraded to the min11's...disappointing...weird I had them working well...
Hi,

May I ask, what sub do you have out of interest? Is the AV receiver doing the sub management or are you setting bass parameters via the sub controls - I am just wondering if the two are causing some kind of conflict between each other?

On a positive note, you did state they you had them sounding perfect for a long time before you needed to disconnect them so it implies you were quite happy with the speakers themselves & it sounds like a connection and/or settings issue.

Rest assured, even though they are small lifestyle speakers & all speakers of this type inherently have compromises, they are still in a class way above the like of Bose! They can't go from sounding great to garbage for no reason just because you of disconnecting & reconnecting them - looks like a fly in the ointment somewhere causing the issue - hope you get it sorted out soon!

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I don't know...I don't think anything has changed...they sound like complete garbage if you try to get any volume out of them. Still sound like they are trying to put out too much bass...I've done the setup thing a few times now. Pathetic...I wish I had just stuck with the Bose system I had purchased...the guy at the store talked me into bringing it back and buying the min11's actually the min10's...they were even worse..so I upgraded to the min11's...disappointing...weird I had them working well...
Get the receiver manual out and read about the settings. Something isn't right. Take the sub completely out of the system and just adjust the mains until they sound right, then re-introduce the sub and go from there. If you don't want to bother, just take it back and re-purchase your bose stuff.
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I don't know...I don't think anything has changed...they sound like complete garbage if you try to get any volume out of them. Still sound like they are trying to put out too much bass...I've done the setup thing a few times now. Pathetic...I wish I had just stuck with the Bose system I had purchased...the guy at the store talked me into bringing it back and buying the min11's actually the min10's...they were even worse..so I upgraded to the min11's...disappointing...weird I had them working well...
jeff,

If you haven't done so already, carry out a phase test of your speaker setup. The AIX Audio Calibration Disc/HD Music Sampler has specific tracks to do this.

Available from here: http://aixrecords.com/catalog/bd/oppo_sampler_bd.html

You can also do a sub sweep test and check the splice between the sub and satellites with the AIX disc.

A hand held radio shack SPL meter would also be handy to check levels.

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Get the receiver manual out and read about the settings. Something isn't right. Take the sub completely out of the system and just adjust the mains until they sound right, then re-introduce the sub and go from there. If you don't want to bother, just take it back and re-purchase your bose stuff.


had to long to take back...but I will try to disconnect the Sub and then reconnect like you said.


thanks, ( I was just ranting about returning for the bose's sorry )
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May I ask, what sub do you have out of interest? Is the AV receiver doing the sub management or are you setting bass parameters via the sub controls - I am just wondering if the two are causing some kind of conflict between each other?

On a positive note, you did state they you had them sounding perfect for a long time before you needed to disconnect them so it implies you were quite happy with the speakers themselves & it sounds like a connection and/or settings issue.

Rest assured, even though they are small lifestyle speakers & all speakers of this type inherently have compromises, they are still in a class way above the like of Bose! They can't go from sounding great to garbage for no reason just because you of disconnecting & reconnecting them - looks like a fly in the ointment somewhere causing the issue - hope you get it sorted out soon!

Bazzy!

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jeff,

If you haven't done so already, carry out a phase test of your speaker setup. The AIX Audio Calibration Disc/HD Music Sampler has specific tracks to do this.

Available from here: http://aixrecords.com/catalog/bd/oppo_sampler_bd.html

You can also do a sub sweep test and check the splice between the sub and satellites with the AIX disc.

A hand held radio shack SPL meter would also be handy to check levels.


ok thanks, I have a few things to try now
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had to long to take back...but I will try to disconnect the Sub and then reconnect like you said.


thanks, ( I was just ranting about returning for the bose's sorry )
Yeah, not too many people go back to Bose after moving on from them ......

You are getting a lot of good advice on this thread ... overall, try to simplify as much as possible. Get rid of whatever settings have been done by the receiver ... go back to square one and build back up from there. I am wondering if the problem isn't up the chain from the speakers?

To verify where the problem is, try hooking them up to another receiver and see if they sound OK. If not, you may have a blown speaker (too much volume, too little power). If they sound OK, you know it's either the receiver settings, or the receiver itself is defective.

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