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If I owned my home, I would definitely run the speaker wire inside the wall.
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Just my experience with these speakers. Bought a Denon avr 2312 and needed speakers. So I purchased 3 of the minx 20's. Got the amp and speakers home and proceeded to unpack and setup. I used the trio of speakers as front setup. Left, right and center. I was also running a Wharfdale ten inch subwoofer with the speakers.


My initial impression was great they handled music and movies quite well. After about 4 to 6 months of use I found myself having to turn up the sound in order to hear dialogue from the center channel. I would say about two thirds volume of the amp. Eventually, over time this caused the amp to overheat and shut down. The speakers grew increasingly less responsive. Finally nothing was coming from the speakers at all.


My old Denon amp upstairs gave up so I purchased a Yamaha RX-A750. Took my Denon 2312 upstairs, hooked it up to an old pair of Pioneer tower speakers with a paradigm center and a quest subwoofer and it works just fine. Heading back downstairs I hooked the Cambridge speakers and wharfdale sub back up to my Yammy amp and got nothing but muffled thumps and booms from the sub. I do however get a signal through the headphones and the sound comes through load and clear.


Like my handle says I am not an expert, it is just my experience. By the way this forum is a great source of reference material for my future audio/video purchases. Thanks to all for your valuable input.
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^ It sounds like you were maxing the speakers out at a much lower crossover setting than recommended. Or, way too much volume. I only had a problem with one of my Min 10's when I set the crossover at 100 Hz and played them at high volume. Well, I never did that again.

And, may I remind everyone of this video using a pair of Min 10's.


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I thought the crossover freq was around 85 sound the sub could take over all the lows. Which takes the load off the speakers. One of the problems with the Cambridge speakers. Was the center channel not playing the dialogue loud enough during a movie. Forcing me to ask more of the amp. This where I ran into problems.
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I thought the crossover freq was around 85 sound the sub could take over all the lows. Which takes the load off the speakers. One of the problems with the Cambridge speakers. Was the center channel not playing the dialogue loud enough during a movie. Forcing me to ask more of the amp. This where I ran into problems.

Where are you setting the crossover frequency? The sub or an AVR? It should be at either 140 or 150 Hz. Otherwise, you are creating a 'hole' in the frequency response.
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Also, make sure you turn the crossover control knob on your sub all the way up.
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Hey Jeff,
Glad to see you are back and that you went to the trouble "again" to upgrade to the new minx min22's. I have been hiding here on the side, but not too much as I have been busy with things.

I honestly was about to pull the trigger on the Paradigm Milleniaone's, (5 of them) and do a SVS sb-1000 sub. I really liked the look, build quality and sound of the Paradigms and I felt (right or wrong) that they were a bit better than the Minx 21's. I decided to check back here before I purchased to see if anything was happening. I have always liked the fact that the Mins have such a wide dispersion field...wider than most convention speakers. I knew that CA upped the minx to the 22's but I could not see any reviews and like you I was skeptical about any benefits.
After reading your review and summation of what you have heard I am rethinking my purchase...........again!

I will have to check with my dealer to see what they can be had for!!!

Anyway....thanks for your review and observations! As stated before, CA should do something for you and the effort you have put in with their product which has probably increased their sales! Don't hold your breath though buddy!
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Hi Mac!

If you were going from the Min 20 to the Min 21, I'd say forget it. Now, going from the Min 21 to the Min 22 is another story. If you liked the Min 21 and wanted something more, definitely upgrade to the Min 22. Overall, if you're looking at a larger scale than what the Minx can give you, look elsewhere but I still feel you will not find anything that will sound like the Minx satellites. Maybe, their own Aero and Aeromax line.

On second thought, maybe you should get both and do a comparison?

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I found this customer review on Richer Sounds regarding the Aero 6 that uses the Min 11 / 21 BMR. I only Posted the part I feel is very interesting. Especially, the comment regarding the Magneplanar panel speakers for which I commented on previously.

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Have been using the Cambridge Aero 6 floorstanders (dark walnut) for just over 2 weeks. These speakers need a lot of running in, even after a week of heavy use, they were still improving. The bmr treble/mid unit is where the changes are, initially sounding quite coarse and dull but gradually becoming more open and detailed. On first listen, the Aero 6 have very little in the way of dynamics or detail but after a couple of weeks, they sound very open and detailed, more dynamic with a precise soundstage. Vocals are amazingly clear
I used to have Magneplanar 1.4 panel speakers, and these rival them for the ability to set up a big sonic picture.
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I thought the crossover freq was around 85 sound the sub could take over all the lows. Which takes the load off the speakers. One of the problems with the Cambridge speakers. Was the center channel not playing the dialogue loud enough during a movie. Forcing me to ask more of the amp. This where I ran into problems.
Hi Nosoundtekhere,

If no one has said so, welcome to AVS!

It's important to match whatever sub you have with the Minx speakers. This is due to the physical size of the Minx drivers and their inability to reproduce the full range signals from a source, such as a movie soundtrack. The Minx speakers will struggle with frequencies from 150Hz downwards, so it's better to hand off these frequencies to the sub which has a much bigger driver that can cleanly reproduce the last 2.5 octaves down to say 20Hz. This is called bass management which is implemented at the receiver via an electronic crossover frequency that is adjustable by the end user.

Check with your sub supplier if it is capable to reproduce signals up to 200Hz. If it is, then you're good to go with matching up with the Minx speakers.

There are other issues to look at when it comes to bass such as room modes, placement, etc. and these can be looked at later. The first thing is to match the sub with Minx.

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Now, going from the Min 21 to the Min 22 is another story. If you liked the Min 21 and wanted something more, definitely upgrade to the Min 22.
I'm using Minx21 as center and surround L+R (Minx XL as front L+R, had 21's there too but I like the XL's more for music, more depth).
Do you consider upgrading the center to a 22 as an upgrade which makes sense and justifies the 150euro cost? Will I notice the difference blindfolded?
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I'm using Minx21 as center and surround L+R (Minx XL as front L+R, had 21's there too but I like the XL's more for music, more depth).

Not sure what a Minx XL is. Perhaps, the size difference between the two models?


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Do you consider upgrading the center to a 22 as an upgrade which makes sense and justifies the 150euro cost?

Vocals / voices should be clearer and more up front. Do I recommend an upgrade? Yes / no. If a Min 21 is working just fine, I'd say no. If you want to match all you other Minx speakers with the same model, I say, yes. I know I will eventually upgrade my center channel speaker with the Min 22. Maybe, you should wait for my review.


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Will I notice the difference blindfolded?

You should.
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Hi Mac!

If you were going from the Min 20 to the Min 21, I'd say forget it. Now, going from the Min 21 to the Min 22 is another story. If you liked the Min 21 and wanted something more, definitely upgrade to the Min 22. Overall, if you're looking at a larger scale than what the Minx can give you, look elsewhere but I still feel you will not find anything that will sound like the Minx satellites. Maybe, their own Aero and Aeromax line.

On second thought, maybe you should get both and do a comparison?
I really only heard the min20's side-by-side with the milleniaone's and I felt the milleniaones' were better......not a great deal but better. It could be the 20's were not broken in or the Mo's were better to my ears. Now that the 22's are available I think my original observation may be changed. I'm gonna call the dealer I went to and see if they have the 22's yet...and if they are set up. I will be in their area this week so I'll see...........I'm hoping they have them and they are set up!!!
As for your other recommendation,,, not for me. I want a small footprint. Not listening to music these days like the old maxell commercial anymore (they will be for video as well). I have grown a bit more refined and move about the home more these days. I would like a more balanced tone off axis. LOL
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