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Two other brands i loooked at are monitor audio mass and the qacoustics 7000i which both have low profile centers are thease better or worse than the minx min 22s?. With the mins i can buy one at a time though .
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Set-Panaso...-/120829602369 thats the similar set up i have at the moment .

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Personally, I am not a fan of mixing and matching speakers. Though, you can make the Minx work by using them as surround satellites. At the present time, I use them in that configuration with Three active bookshelf monitors as my LCR. If you're not going to be using the Minx satellites as a surround speaker, move on to another speaker model for 5.1 or above. Unless, you have tin ears, you will not be happy with a mismatched speaker system.
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Found a work around spoke to guys at richersounds they said minx best fir surrounds to buy bigger front left right center so put the tv on a plinth or new pedestall that has adjustable riser . Now looking at qcoustics 3000 series.
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Found a work around spoke to guys at richersounds they said minx best fir surrounds to buy bigger front left right center so put the tv on a plinth or new pedestall that has adjustable riser . Now looking at qcoustics 3000 series.
Guess you wont be going with the Cambridge Min22 and will post questions about your new speakers in the relevant thread then.

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Guess you wont be going with the Cambridge Min22 and will post questions about your new speakers in the relevant thread then.
yes thanks for the helpful advice much appreciated.
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Found a work around spoke to guys at richersounds they said minx best fir surrounds to buy bigger front left right center so put the tv on a plinth or new pedestall that has adjustable riser . Now looking at qcoustics 3000 series.

Exactly my point. If you're not using the Minx for a full-fledged surround system or as surrounds only, time to move on.
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Hello guys,

I plan to set up by myself a home cinema at home, in my (small) bedroom (4m * 2,9m or 13ft * 9.5ft).

My idea is to use a cambridge minx 5.1 but I've some question:

- is there a real differences between the minx22 and the minx 12 for such a room? I mean: the minx22 is better or the minx12 will be good enough?
(detail: i prefer the option that will allow me to play at "low" volume with a good sound clarity).

- may I mix the minx22 (if really better) with the x200? I guess the small sub will be enough. I do not want to have my walls to quake :-).
I've also read that an "overlap" is needed between the sub & the sats, in terms of frequency. Maybe the x200 is not enough good for the minx22 (if better^^)?

- I've no idea at all of which amp to choose. Ideally, I'm looking for a small AV amp (even if I know that there's no real "small" AV amp) that make his job correctly. No need of lots of features, or wifi.
Do I have to take care at the power of the amp? A too low powerful amp may damage the minx? Or a too powerful? (And at this point, you know that I'm a total noob :-) ).


I hope my questions are clear enough.
& sorry for mistakes, if they are, I speak french..

Thanks a lot!

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Hello guys,

I plan to set up by myself a home cinema at home, in my (small) bedroom (4m * 2,9m or 13ft * 9.5ft).

My idea is to use a cambridge minx 5.1 but I've some question:

- is there a real differences between the minx22 and the minx 12 for such a room? I mean: the minx22 is better or the minx12 will be good enough?
(detail: i prefer the option that will allow me to play at "low" volume with a good sound clarity).

- may I mix the minx22 (if really better) with the x200? I guess the small sub will be enough. I do not want to have my walls to quake :-).
I've also read that an "overlap" is needed between the sub & the sats, in terms of frequency. Maybe the x200 is not enough good for the minx22 (if better^^)?

- I've no idea at all of which amp to choose. Ideally, I'm looking for a small AV amp (even if I know that there's no real "small" AV amp) that make his job correctly. No need of lots of features, or wifi.
Do I have to take care at the power of the amp? A too low powerful amp may damage the minx? Or a too powerful? (And at this point, you know that I'm a total noob :-) ).


I hope my questions are clear enough.
& sorry for mistakes, if they are, I speak french..

Thanks a lot!

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If you can afford the Min22, these are the better speakers due to a lower crossover frequency requirement compared to the Min12. The Min22 also has a better speaker efficiency compared to the Min12.

There would not be an issue of pairing the Min22 with the X200 sub.

Any modern receiver will be able to drive the Min22 speakers as the nominal impedance is 8 ohms. Choose a receiver that has the features you need and not something promised in the future or "coming soon" marketing line.

Power requirements will depend on the distance between the speakers and the Main Listening Position (MLP), placement of the speakers with respect to room boundaries, speaker efficiency and loudness level desired. As you've stated that low SPL is desired, power requirements are going to be low. It's a good idea to check what you need with the following web app : http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html

A good Room EQualization feature (such as Audyssey XT32) that is built into the receiver will help with the desire to hear details at low volume listening levels. Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume are the features you're looking for.

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Hello Steveting,
Many thanks for your answers.
Things become more clear in my mind.

I think I'm going to buy five min22 & one x200.

Concerning the receiver, maybe the following model could suit with the minx set?

DENON AVRX 3200 W
denon.co.uk/uk/product/hometheater/avreceivers/avrx3200w
I see in the tech specs that the power input is 6 Ohms (if I'm not wrong).
You mentionned that the impedance should be 8 ohms. Is this a max, a min, or a precise value that as to be respected?


Thanks!

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Maybe may I ask it another way: what could be a good AV receiver for a 5.1 minx, within a budget of 1000-1200 eur/usd ?
I know that there isn't a "good one" and that it's probably a matter of personal taste but I do not want to make any mistake.
So are Denon, or yamaha, or NAD good brands to match with the cambridge minx22?
Or is there any brands to avoid?
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Hello Steveting,
Many thanks for your answers.
Things become more clear in my mind.

I think I'm going to buy five min22 & one x200.

Concerning the receiver, maybe the following model could suit with the minx set?

DENON AVRX 3200 W
denon.co.uk/uk/product/hometheater/avreceivers/avrx3200w
I see in the tech specs that the power input is 6 Ohms (if I'm not wrong).
You mentionned that the impedance should be 8 ohms. Is this a max, a min, or a precise value that as to be respected?


Thanks!

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Maybe may I ask it another way: what could be a good AV receiver for a 5.1 minx, within a budget of 1000-1200 eur/usd ?
I know that there isn't a "good one" and that it's probably a matter of personal taste but I do not want to make any mistake.
So are Denon, or yamaha, or NAD good brands to match with the cambridge minx22?
Or is there any brands to avoid?
</mood noob>

Tx^^

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All the name brand manufacturers mentioned in your post will do - it all depends on budget and personal taste. I would generally avoid Onkyo for now. This is due to quality issues on the HDMI board and heating problems that comes up more often than other brands.

The nominal impedance of 8 ohms is stated by Cambridge Audio in their datasheet. It will vary depending on frequency, but overall the amp will see the load as 8 ohms. Not sure if there's an frequency vs. impedance curve available for the Min22 and Min12, perhaps it's the same as previous generation model and someone might have a link readily available to these graphs?

If you're okay with last year's technology, there's some great bargains on the previous generation (2014) receivers that are generally on sale. An example is the Denon AVR-X4100W that's available from Amazon Germany.

The AVR-X4100W has Audyssey XT32 with sub EQ HT room equalization. This is better than Audyssey XT that's on the AVR-X3200W.

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Thank you Steveting for your answer!
I'm going to consider this Denon, the AVR X4100W.
Amazon.de is ok for me, I'm living in Belgium so it easy to order from them.
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Thank you Steveting for your answer!
I'm going to consider this Denon, the AVR X4100W.
Amazon.de is ok for me, I'm living in Belgium so it easy to order from them.
If you're budget allows for it, dual X200 subs would be better to smooth out the bass response within the room. It would also minimize the sub localization due to high crossover frequency setting compared to a single sub setup.

The Denon X4100W has dual sub output channels so it would be a good match.

Do sub crawl as shown in the Axiom Audio's youtube video in post number 2,410 to identify some good locations to place the X200's. Choose the two best positions and connect up to the X4100W. The auto calibration will set the correct levels and distances for each sub and then a combined response for the LFE channel.

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Ah ok.
Two x200 will not be too much for such a small room ((4m * 2,9m or 13ft * 9.5ft)?
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Ah ok.
Two x200 will not be too much for such a small room ((4m * 2,9m or 13ft * 9.5ft)?
A minimum of two subs is recommended for any listening room.

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Ah ok, many tx Steveting for this info, I didn't know!
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Well, I've just ordered my "cambridge minx" this morning!
It'll be:
- three min22 for front L/R + center
- two min 12 for rear L/R
- & one x201 as sub.
(I plan to add a second sub later, based on your advice steveting; everything in its own time ).

I still have to order the receiver (& I think it'll be this denon 4200).

In terms of audio cable, is there any specs that have to be respected? I do not want to pay extra cost for just a cable.
Do you think the Norstone w250 (copper, 2.5mm) is a wise choise? cf. http://www.norstone-design.com/en/mo...sic-White.html

I know that I need a specific cable for the connection between the receiver & the sub. Any advice on this point? Does the quality (& the price) really matters?

Oh, and if anyone could tell me: do I need to envisage specific connectors for receiver>sats?
Is it enough to "twist" the cable for connecting him or do I need anything specific?

Many thanks :-)

Have a nice day
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Well, I've just ordered my "cambridge minx" this morning!
It'll be:
- three min22 for front L/R + center
- two min 12 for rear L/R
- & one x201 as sub.
(I plan to add a second sub later, based on your advice steveting; everything in its own time ).

I still have to order the receiver (& I think it'll be this denon 4200).

In terms of audio cable, is there any specs that have to be respected? I do not want to pay extra cost for just a cable.
Do you think the Norstone w250 (copper, 2.5mm) is a wise choise? cf. http://www.norstone-design.com/en/mo...sic-White.html...
Those cables look fine. Any 2.5mm2 copper cable will do. You might want to compare the norstone to the the basic 50m cable available from Amazon.de here: http://www.amazon.de/Oehlbach-Speake...er+cable+2.5mm

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...I know that I need a specific cable for the connection between the receiver & the sub. Any advice on this point? Does the quality (& the price) really matters?...
Basic RCA cable that can be found on Amazon.de here: http://www.amazon.de/Oehlbach-Subwoo...1RN69E0TJBHCQX


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...Oh, and if anyone could tell me: do I need to envisage specific connectors for receiver>sats?
Is it enough to "twist" the cable for connecting him or do I need anything specific?

Many thanks :-)

Have a nice day
The Min22 has the ability to accept banana plugs and these are worthwhile investment for cable connection. Example from Amazon.de is this: http://www.amazon.de/Nakamichi-Banan...837Q85GG9FCY3B

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Thank you so much Steveting for your answers & your efficacy! You really help me :-)!
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Well, I've just ordered my "cambridge minx" this morning!
It'll be:
- three min22 for front L/R + center
- two min 12 for rear L/R
- & one x201 as sub.
(I plan to add a second sub later, based on your advice steveting; everything in its own time ).

I still have to order the receiver (& I think it'll be this denon 4200).

In terms of audio cable, is there any specs that have to be respected? I do not want to pay extra cost for just a cable.
Do you think the Norstone w250 (copper, 2.5mm) is a wise choise? cf. http://www.norstone-design.com/en/mo...sic-White.html

I know that I need a specific cable for the connection between the receiver & the sub. Any advice on this point? Does the quality (& the price) really matters?

Oh, and if anyone could tell me: do I need to envisage specific connectors for receiver>sats?
Is it enough to "twist" the cable for connecting him or do I need anything specific?

Many thanks :-)

Have a nice day
That's a nice setup there, myself I will be adding a pair of minx 22 to complete my surrounds. I will be replacing my minx 12 instead. Sound quality is like night and day compaired to both of them in my opinion.

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That's a nice setup there, myself I will be adding a pair of minx 22 to complete my surrounds. I will be replacing my minx 12 instead. Sound quality is like night and day compaired to both of them in my opinion.

I agree with your assessment.
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Hello Guys,

As already written a few posts above, I'll receive my cambridge minx set in a few days (3 minx22, 2min12, 1 sub x201) that I'll place in a small room (4m * 2,9m - 13ft * 9.5ft).

Based on the advices of Steveting99, I envisage the Denon X4100W but I also give some look at the yamaha receivers.
I know that there are plenty of webpages based on a general debate « denon vs yamaha » and that’s not the point of this post.
What I would like to ask is if there’s any receiver that is recommended or not recommended for the cambridge minx.
Could a yamaha (RX A850, or 750, or 550, or even the slimiest RX S601) be a possible good choice for the minx?

Well, one last thing: I also have the possibility to buy a Cambridge 551 R V2 (https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/produ...a/azur-551r-v2).
Maybe is it the best choice for the Cambridge minx?
I’m not sure because my main use will be HT and not pure audio/stereo, and I plan to use a mac mini as media center...

Many thanks!!
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Hello Guys,

As already written a few posts above, I'll receive my cambridge minx set in a few days (3 minx22, 2min12, 1 sub x201) that I'll place in a small room (4m * 2,9m - 13ft * 9.5ft).

Based on the advices of Steveting99, I envisage the Denon X4100W but I also give some look at the yamaha receivers.
I know that there are plenty of webpages based on a general debate « denon vs yamaha » and that’s not the point of this post.
What I would like to ask is if there’s any receiver that is recommended or not recommended for the cambridge minx.
Could a yamaha (RX A850, or 750, or 550, or even the slimiest RX S601) be a possible good choice for the minx?

Well, one last thing: I also have the possibility to buy a Cambridge 551 R V2 (https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/produ...a/azur-551r-v2).
Maybe is it the best choice for the Cambridge minx?
I’m not sure because my main use will be HT and not pure audio/stereo, and I plan to use a mac mini as media center...

Many thanks!!

Most any will be fine, there aren't any special requirements to drive the Minx. Buy an AVR based of the features you will use or will use in the near future.

And congrats on getting the Minx They should work great for your application.
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Hello Guys,

As already written a few posts above, I'll receive my cambridge minx set in a few days (3 minx22, 2min12, 1 sub x201) that I'll place in a small room (4m * 2,9m - 13ft * 9.5ft).

Based on the advices of Steveting99, I envisage the Denon X4100W but I also give some look at the yamaha receivers.
I know that there are plenty of webpages based on a general debate « denon vs yamaha » and that’s not the point of this post.
What I would like to ask is if there’s any receiver that is recommended or not recommended for the cambridge minx.
Could a yamaha (RX A850, or 750, or 550, or even the slimiest RX S601) be a possible good choice for the minx?

Well, one last thing: I also have the possibility to buy a Cambridge 551 R V2 (https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/produ...a/azur-551r-v2).
Maybe is it the best choice for the Cambridge minx?
I’m not sure because my main use will be HT and not pure audio/stereo, and I plan to use a mac mini as media center...

Many thanks!!
Hi skraboutcha,

As previously advised, any modern receiver will drive your Minx system as you've got a small room and thus the power requirements will be low. Most of the time the receiver amp section will be under a few watts of power with bass management employed. Just check that transients for loud passages are taken care of.

All the receiver models mentioned in your post can drive the Minx speakers.

The improvements in sound quality comes with the sophistication employed within the built-in room correction algorithms of each receiver. Choose one that offers the best that you can afford. The room correction system is best appreciated in a Home Theater (HT) environment, as movie sound tracks are mixed to meet a certain standard, get the speaker placement, Main Listening Position (MLP) and room right, then the room correction system is the icing on the cake as you'll be close to what's intended to be heard at the mixing studio.

Two channel music does not adhere to a standard so there is great variability from one studio to the next. Add on top of this the obnoxious loudness war engaged by music labels and it's difficult to get anything right in any room setting.

Marantz SR-7009, Oppo BPD-93, MTV 7000D, aTV, Harmony Home Control remote, KEF E301+T101, MiniDSP (2x4)+(10x10HD)+(DDRC-88A), Emotiva 2xXPA-5 (Gen2), Rythmik 2xF12G+2xF8, HiMedia Q16, LG 55EC9300.
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Hello all,

Just one message to tell you that - finally - I choosed to go with Cambridge 551R V2 and I bought it this afternoon!
I know that this receiver is like "basic" in terms of features but the sound quality is promising and it will certainly match perfectly the minx.
Unfortunately (for me), I'm still waiting the speakers, & so I cannot test it for the moment...

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Hello you Guys

I have had in the past years 5 minx 20s, Also went on to 5 minx 21s, I now have 5 of the new minx 22s
The new minx 22s are the best yet, The mid range is superb and clarity of voice is really good,
I use the Yamaha RX-S600 slimline AC Receiver,
My subwoofer is the Q Acoustics 7000s,
This might be to some a strange setup but to me it has worked a treat
My room size is 5 half metres x 3 half metres
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Hi everyone,

What a big and comprehensive thread. I've bopped through some of it, but there's so much here (And not too easy to search just a thread? )

I am in USA / Pacific Northwest. I have managed to source some old-stock Minx 21s from a local dealer going out of business and have paired them with a little Class-D amplifier to add some sound to my kitchen. I live in an open floorplan apartment and spend a lot of time with the TV on but with the sound turned way up so that I can hear in the kitchen! So a big part of this setup is bringing the speakers closer to the kitchen so I can keep everything at a more reasonable volume level AND hear better (and keep my neighbors happy). I will do some music playback too, using a Chromecast Audio.

I've had the speakers running on my countertop for a few days now and I'm really happy with them. Nice clean sound. Compact package. Perfect for this setup.

All that said -- Does anybody have any bright ideas for adding a bit more low frequency oomph to these? I'm not looking for extension down into the 20 Hz range or anything, and as I mentioned before -- this is just a kitchen system. I don't really need a true "subwoofer" (Nor do I have the space for even the smallest ones) but just some kind of mid-range driver speaker I could stick somewhere to fill in a little. And actually since I'm in an apartment, something that doesn't go too low will also keep me on good terms with the neighbors.

I'm seriously looking at things like the ".1" part of computer multimedia 2.1 setups or something like building a little "sub"woofer using a 3" driver from Parts Express (That I could crossover and drive a lot harder than these speakers).

Some other things I've seen are the Tivoli Subwoofer that is designed to go with the Tivoli tabletop radio and something cool-looking but very expensive called the "ceramic subwoofer" by joey roth.

I don't really want to build something myself but I could if it came right down to it!

Think something no larger then, say, a loaf of bread.



Thanks for your ideas!
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Can anyone show how do the 600p stands look like? Especially the cable managment part. All of the pictures on the internet are stock and don't show a lot. Even CA's site doesn't have a manual or anything like that.
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Hello,

Hoping I can advice from anyone experienced with the Cambridge Minx Min 21 & 22 satellite speakers. A friend had given me two very good condition Cambridge Minx Min 21 and I would like to set up a 5.1 home theater system. Would it be much better to build my 5.1 setup with all five Cambridge Minx Min 22 satellite speakers? Or can I add three Cambridge Minx Min 22 and the two Cambridge Minx Min 21 speakers? Thanks for your help and advice!
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