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Don't forget...

...the optimal placing of the screen is such that the centre of the screen is at eye height (pretty much ear height).

In all professional venues (clubs, concerts, sports bars, movie theaters), I used my head's "neck attachment" to resolve misalignments there.
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In all professional venues (clubs, concerts, sports bars, movie theaters), I used my head's "neck attachment" to resolve misalignments there.

LOL. Love that.

I think we make mountains out of mole hills on this forum at times. I'm going to mount my 64" plasma in my living room on the wall and it's going to be above the recommended height. I'm not at all worried about it. I'm far more worried about the twins in my wife's belly getting big enough to knock that bad boy off the stand it's currently on, even if it is at the "proper" height.

My old theater had an AT screen with everything at the proper height and the one I'm building now will too. But, if it weren't, I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch.
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Congrats on the growing family! Keep us informed, and let us know when you need to start selling off some of that gear wink.gif

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In all professional venues (clubs, concerts, sports bars, movie theaters), I used my head's "neck attachment" to resolve misalignments there.

Unless your neck attachment has a telescoping feature, this misalignment cannot be fully resolved if the screen is not appropriately tilted towards your MVP.
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After a certain angle, having to look up is not very relaxing. In fact, it kind of hurts after awhile.














But maybe if....























But then the sound would be out of alignment again frown.gif
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Unless your neck attachment has a telescoping feature, this misalignment cannot be fully resolved if the screen is not appropriately tilted towards your MVP.

I find that the near off-axis performance of most 2d screens is very good (notice how you can get good sound even if your speakers are not toe-in to point straight at you). It does cause some perspective change on live performances, but depending on the height of the stage and shortness of the skirt; that can be a subjective improvement.

This does, however, seem to be an argument in favor of TM over MTM layouts in order that there be the least distance between "ear height" and the top of the speaker / bottom of the TV.
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It does cause some perspective change on live performances, but depending on the height of the stage and shortness of the skirt; that can be a subjective improvement.

I guess in the situation you're describing flashlighting would actually be desired.
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In all professional venues (clubs, concerts, sports bars, movie theaters), I used my head's "neck attachment" to resolve misalignments there.

All of the positions are better than when we thought TVs had to be 6" from the floor. Then, it got worse when my glasses needed two strengths of lenses. eek.gif Plus my best listening chairs tilt me back some. And, my neck still bends. Above optimum height is best with me. biggrin.gif
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Has the Phil "Slim" been given an official name yet? I guess Dennis is still working out pricing as well?

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ACI Monitors and Pioneer towers are sold!
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Well, the Phil Slims have undergone a few tweaks in the final development process, all in the interest of increased efficiency and bass slam. Even more exciting is the available outboard crossover, with color-matched electrical tape and alligator clips. Hurry--these won't last long.

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What in the world is that?

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What in the world is that?

A challenge to ship.
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What in the world is that?
FrankenPhil? It's a monster I'd love to hear. Seriously, what is the bass section design, sealed?

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FrankenPhil? It's a monster I'd love to hear. Seriously, what is the bass section design, sealed?

So you're not buying the Phil Slim thing? OK--the woofer is a 15" B&C 15BG100 in a large ported cabinet. It's rated at 94 dB sensitivity. It can't deliver on that, but it's pretty sensitive. Believe it or not, the little 8" woofer in the Phil 3 next to it goes significantly lower. Probably over 10 Hz. But it takes a lot more
amplifier power to do it.
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Well, the Phil Slims have undergone a few tweaks in the final development process, all in the interest of increased efficiency and bass slam. Even more exciting is the available outboard crossover, with color-matched electrical tape and alligator clips. Hurry--these won't last long.


That horn loaded driver looks familiar. Would it happen to be a horn loaded ribbon usually sold as a pro driver? It looks like a driver also used in the Soundfield Audio Monitor 2.

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Dennis - you didn't want to be left off the high sensitivity bandwagon? biggrin.gif
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Well, the Phil Slims have undergone a few tweaks in the final development process, all in the interest of increased efficiency and bass slam. Even more exciting is the available outboard crossover, with color-matched electrical tape and alligator clips. Hurry--these won't last long.


I got it...it's the new Philharmonster!

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Is that the design you were doing for Monkish or something totally different?
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Well, the Phil Slims have undergone a few tweaks in the final development process, all in the interest of increased efficiency and bass slam. Even more exciting is the available outboard crossover, with color-matched electrical tape and alligator clips. Hurry--these won't last long.

Here are a list of possible marketing names for Dennis. Feel free to add your own. wink.gif

FrankenPhil
Phil Monsters
Phil Big Bottoms
Phil Slims Bloated
Phil Fats
Phil Theaters
Phil Slammers
WWE Philharmonic RAW
Phil House Destroyers
Phil Earthquakes

ok, there may be a copyright infringement...

On a more serious note... can the 'big bottom' be bought as a sub? 1000Watts RMS eek.gif These plus another bottom or two will keep all of the bass HT fanatics happy. cool.gif
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Here are a list of possible marketing names for Dennis. Feel free to add your own. wink.gif

FrankenPhil
Phil Monsters
Phil Big Bottoms
Phil Slims Bloated
Phil Fats
Phil Theaters
Phil Slammers
WWE Philharmonic RAW
Phil House Destroyers
Phil Earthquakes

ok, there may be a copyright infringement...

On a more serious note... can the 'big bottom' be bought as a sub? 1000Watts RMS eek.gif These plus another bottom or two will keep all of the bass HT fanatics happy. cool.gif

I think PhilharMonster is pretty much it. Actually, I'm not sure these woofers would do it for you bass freaks. They really don't go all that low. But with a sub, you could move neighborhoods. Well, you would probably have to move out of the neighborhood. This design isn't for
the Monk Man. It's totally different.
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Well, the Phil Slims have undergone a few tweaks in the final development process, all in the interest of increased efficiency and bass slam. Even more exciting is the available outboard crossover, with color-matched electrical tape and alligator clips. Hurry--these won't last long.


Whaaaatt? Have you changed the name to Phyllis Diller Audio? eek.gif

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I think PhilharMonster is pretty much it. Actually, I'm not sure these woofers would do it for you bass breaks. They really don't go all that low. But with a sub, you could move neighborhoods. Well, you would probably have to move out of the neighborhood. This design isn't for
the Monk Man. It's totally different.

Is that the Audax midrange in it?

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I think PhilharMonster is pretty much it.

If that name doesn't generate calls from Monster Cable's legal department, you could always call them…

Phil SeisMonitors

http://allshookup.org/research/seisindx.htm
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I think PhilharMonster is pretty much it. Actually, I'm not sure these woofers would do it for you bass breaks. They really don't go all that low. But with a sub, you could move neighborhoods. Well, you would probably have to move out of the neighborhood. This design isn't for the Monk Man. It's totally different.
Any love for "Philasaurus"?
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We need more info on what the hell these Philharmonsters are. Dennis, please provide?
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If that name doesn't generate calls from Monster Cable's legal department, you could always call them…

Phil SeisMonitors

http://allshookup.org/research/seisindx.htm


Nah, that would not infringe on Monster brand trademark.
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Nah, that would not infringe on Monster brand trademark.
That won't stop Monster from suing. They think they hold rights to the word monster no matter how applied. I think they even sued this guy to force him to change his name:

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That won't stop Monster from suing. They think they hold rights to the word monster no matter how applied. I think they even sued this guy to force him to change his name:


Dang--that's the guy who dropped the PhilharMonster cabinets off. I didn't get his license number.
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good day to everyone. my name is james and this is my first post one of manny to come! ok iv been inducted into the phil 3 club :-) dell has good ideas on what my cabs r going to look i didnt go conventinal lol of just a bit out side will look awsome. iv been folowing these threads for a year and a half and have learned alot about everthing its been awsome so ty all.espicialy the guy in the chair and the guy who love red they are the one who pointed me in this derection away from something called a " penndragon" still really dont understand how but there arguments had marrit which brought me here or the other one . so why do they still get great reviews? more about me in the comming mounth so again thank you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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