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Hey Dennis... How timber matched are the various options for use in HT? Correct me if I am wrong but you seem to be somewhat of the opinion that surrounds have to be sort of close but true timber match isn't required? Of course this is just for moves? I am sure 5.1 or more concert music would probably be different?

I know given unlimited budget that 5 of same speaker is ideal, but given limitation...Set of silms or 3's wit BMR x 3 or Phils are more than enough?

I know you have a center but to avoid lobing isn't a BMR or Phil better if it can be used?

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More good questions. I'll have to get back to you tonight on these--I have 14 people coming over for a music (?) recital.
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Hey Dennis... How timber matched are the various options for use in HT? Correct me if I am wrong but you seem to be somewhat of the opinion that surrounds have to be sort of close but true timber match isn't required? Of course this is just for moves? I am sure 5.1 or more concert music would probably be different?

I know given unlimited budget that 5 of same speaker is ideal, but given limitation...Set of silms or 3's wit BMR x 3 or Phils are more than enough?

I know you have a center but to avoid lobing isn't a BMR or Phil better if it can be used?

Thanks!
For HT, surrounds are the last place I would invest heavy funds. Aesthetics aside, I think my Affordable Accuracy monitors are more than adequate to the task. I'm not sure most people have a complete understanding of center channel lobing issues. If you have the room, any monitor standing upright will have more even horizontal dispersion than most any dedicated center channel placed horizontally. But even a horizontal MTM will be fine for most applications. At typical listening distances, you have to be pretty darn far off axis before lobing between the two woofers will be a real issue. i think horizontal MTM's get a bum rap in that regard.
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I just took possession today of my first pair of Philharmonic speakers - a pair of the New Affordable Accuracy Monitors - or NAAM. They may be replacing a pair of Emotiva ERM-1 monitor speakers that I've owned for 7-8 years.

I'm driving these speakers with an Onkyo TX-8050 (80wpc) receiver through the USB port & an 8GB thumb drive loaded with Flac files. I put Paul Simon's Graceland on since I'm very familiar with his music - and this is my favorite album by Simon. First impression was these speakers are pretty good! They seem to have the entire audible range covered nicely. The highs are clean and clear - the mid bass 'slam' that we all love is pretty good but IMO the ERM-1's may have an slight edge since they do have dual 5 1/4" woofers. I'll know more when I install the ERM-1's on the 'B' speaker terminals so I can A/B them in real time.

I was hesitant to buy another two way monitor with a 6 1/2" woofer. Been there done that with a pair of Infinity Beta 20's which everyone was gaga over - everyone except me! The bass extension with them was quite low but was muddy. I eventually sold them and ended up with the ERM-1's.

I've had about half an hour with the NAAM so far and like what I hear. I'll know more after a week or so should anyone get curious. I'm going to set the song towers aside this weekend and have a long listening session with these speakers in the living room.

My initial impression is this speaker: if anyone is looking for an inexpensive decent sounding speaker that doesn't require a sub to round out the sound these just might be what you're looking for.
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I just took possession today of my first pair of Philharmonic speakers - a pair of the New Affordable Accuracy Monitors - or NAAM. They may be replacing a pair of Emotiva ERM-1 monitor speakers that I've owned for 7-8 years.

I'm driving these speakers with an Onkyo TX-8050 (80wpc) receiver through the USB port & an 8GB thumb drive loaded with Flac files. I put Paul Simon's Graceland on since I'm very familiar with his music - and this is my favorite album by Simon. First impression was these speakers are pretty good! They seem to have the entire audible range covered nicely. The highs are clean and clear - the mid bass 'slam' that we all love is pretty good but IMO the ERM-1's may have an slight edge since they do have dual 5 1/4" woofers. I'll know more when I install the ERM-1's on the 'B' speaker terminals so I can A/B them in real time.

I was hesitant to buy another two way monitor with a 6 1/2" woofer. Been there done that with a pair of Infinity Beta 20's which everyone was gaga over - everyone except me! The bass extension with them was quite low but was muddy. I eventually sold them and ended up with the ERM-1's.

I've had about half an hour with the NAAM so far and like what I hear. I'll know more after a week or so should anyone get curious. I'm going to set the song towers aside this weekend and have a long listening session with these speakers in the living room.

My initial impression is this speaker: if anyone is looking for an inexpensive decent sounding speaker that doesn't require a sub to round out the sound these just might be what you're looking for.
Grats on your new speakers!! this sounds great. the AA monitors are on my list for office speakers once i get figure out my living room speakers

and BTW Go Hawks!!!
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[QUOTE=Knucklehead90;46296889]I just took possession today of my first pair of Philharmonic speakers - a pair of the New Affordable Accuracy Monitors - or NAAM. They may be replacing a pair of Emotiva ERM-1 monitor speakers that I've owned for 7-8 years.

I'm driving these speakers with an Onkyo TX-8050 (80wpc) receiver through the USB port & an 8GB thumb drive loaded with Flac files. I put Paul Simon's Graceland on since I'm very familiar with his music - and this is my favorite album by Simon. First impression was these speakers are pretty good! They seem to have the entire audible range covered nicely. The highs are clean and clear - the mid bass 'slam' that we all love is pretty good but IMO the ERM-1's may have an slight edge since they do have dual 5 1/4" woofers.
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Thanks for the report. One word about bass "slam." The monitors employ an "Extended Bass Shelf" tuning system, where the box tuning frequency is near the natural free air resonance of the woofer. This approach takes advantage of room gain to provide considerably deeper useful bass response than a traditional tuning approach. I provide buyers with a demo CD that includes a 34 Hz test tone at the end. You can hear some fundamental output on the track, although it's obviously down in volume. The trade-off for the greater bass reach is a little less output and power handling in the mid-bass "slam" region. I think that also makes for a more natural reproduction of the spoken male voice, but there are probably better choices for people interested in a rock speaker that can be played at very high volume with relatively little amplifier power. Thanks again for the feedback, and I hope the monitors survive the test of time.
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