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post #991 of 4822 Old 03-24-2012, 10:07 AM
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Hey, I am from Virginia, guess I am part of the 10%!! Never been to Canada, but the cost of shipping and delivery time is a lot!

But....but....wait I was raised in Texas!!!

So, I guess "The Lone Star State" is my home!

"Dude we're not a third world country. We are part of the G7.".....

That is way too funny, d_m1010.
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"Dude we're not a third world country. We are part of the G7.".....

That is way too funny, d_m1010.

Well I do like to walk my goat on her rope leesh around Wal-Mart.

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Even though the shipping is $400 and there will be taxes/duty, it's still cheaper than 12k Salk Soundscapes/B&W Diamonds/Revel Salons/Focal Utopias and they will sound just as good if not better.

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Damn. That's a good 4-5 hour drive there and back again. I was debating getting them shipped to Oakville rather than Buffalo and I only have to drive 45 minutes to an hour to the border.

DM - Are you shipping to a border spot or into Canada?

He ship where you want them but its cheaper for canadian to ship to a border spot ( just search kinek point on google) there's lot of them, mine is so close to the border its like 200 meter further ( google earth).

Worth it since u save a lot of Fee from fed ex (fee they charge to take care of customs)

the true TPS is like 5% but with fed ex ( with heavy loot like mine, 225 lbs subwoofer+170 lbs loudspeakers) the bill is astronomic... grosso modo its way cheaper to go get them yourself at the border
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My border drive would be substantial and I have a business to run. No time for that.

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My border drive would be substantial and I have a business to run. No time for that.

hehe yeah its not for everybody, but for me poor university student who can spend a day to save 200$ it worth it =)
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ana, did you have Dennis build you a sub?

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ana, did you have Dennis build you a sub?

hehe If only i could , would have jumped on it

got that

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=891

paid 35$ more to get the behringer 4000 instead of 2000
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hehe If only i could , would have jumped on it

got that

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=891

paid 35$ more to get the behringer 4000 instead of 2000

lol dude you said you were a 'poor' student.

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hehe If only i could , would have jumped on it

got that

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=891

paid 35$ more to get the behringer 4000 instead of 2000

Are you living in a dorm with that crazy sub?

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Are you living in a dorm with that crazy sub?

Party in his dorm!!! :P

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Amen to that brother!

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I went to an AV store yesterday and the employees insisted there is good reason to spend $11,000 on a subwoofer. Lol

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lol

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I went to an AV store yesterday and the employees insisted there is good reason to spend $11,000 on a subwoofer. Lol

Yeah, the salesman's BMW payments.

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I went to an AV store yesterday and the employees insisted there is good reason to spend $11,000 on a subwoofer. Lol

I guess it's a JL model. I have many SVS subs and they are world class at a price of 2k each and that is the max I'll pay for a sub.

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I guess it's a JL model. I have many SVS subs and they are world class at a price of 2k each and that is the max I'll pay for a sub.

Yup!!! It was indeed. The same employees insisted that cables make a huge change in "dynamics, resolution, and separation between instruments." When I asked why, they panicked. Lol

On the plus side, I met Andrew Jones. He is wicked! He has a funny sense of humor.

I've attached the simulated frequency response for my sub at 1 watt and 100 watts. Enclosure designed by Paul Kittinger.
LL
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Party in his dorm!!! :P


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Amen to that brother!

2 hours at grocery store and these gentlemen are getting out of control? =)


This is my last semester, working part-time as a civil engineer
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2 hours at grocery store and these gentlemen are getting out of control? =)

this is my last semester, working part-time as a civil engineer

grad party in his dorm!!!

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The phil 2's have gotten me intrigued...

Was wondering if someone could answer a question for me.
I'm about 40% music and 60% movies.

Every now and then I do like to turn it up while music listening. At short intervals (to avoid hearing damage), I do approach 105 to 107 dbs, while I'm sure the phil 2's will sound great at lower listening, will they be able to handle these SPL's? (of course, given the proper power)

I done a search, but could not find a definitive answer, thanks in advance.
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The phil 2's have gotten me intrigued...

Was wondering if someone could answer a question for me.
I'm about 40% music and 60% movies.

Every now and then I do like to turn it up while music listening. At short intervals (to avoid hearing damage), I do approach 105 to 107 dbs, while I'm sure the phil 2's will sound great at lower listening, will they be able to handle these SPL's? (of course, given the proper power)

I done a search, but could not find a definitive answer, thanks in advance.

DM can answer that the best, but i'm pretty sure AcuDefTechGuy was pushing his phils 3 to 109-110 on his SPL

Just read the same thread on audioholic from page 95 and up ( this is where he gets his speakers)
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DM can answer that the best, but i'm pretty sure AcuDefTechGuy was pushing his phils 3 to 109-110 on his SPL

Just read the same thread on audioholic from page 95 and up ( this is where he gets his speakers)


Thanks Ana, Dennis answered over at AH as I posted the same question there as well. Seems the Phil 2's should do fine crossed over with a sub. So I should be in good shape at a little over 100db.

I don't go to those spl's very much anyway, I still need my hearing intact for awhile longer...
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Guys

Looking for some inputs here and i am pretty new to the whole audio world. I am looking at buying Philharmonic-1. Since the center channel that Dennis makes is out of my price range, is there a cheaper center channel on the market i can buy ? Also any inputs for $500 ish dollar range receivers good for these speakers would be appreciated !!

I am not sure what to look for ...
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Thanks Ana, Dennis answered over at AH as I posted the same question there as well. Seems the Phil 2's should do fine crossed over with a sub. So I should be in good shape at a little over 100db.

I don't go to those spl's very much anyway, I still need my hearing intact for awhile longer...

Ive run my phil 2s into the 100dbs with no issue at 10 feet (had my meter running on my surrounds earlier)

sub crossed over for movies at 80

my room is 14x20x9 ish - main seat at 9.something feet. Room is fully enclosed and sealed.

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Ive run my phil 2s into the 100dbs with no issue at 10 feet (had my meter running on my surrounds earlier)

sub crossed over for movies at 80

my room is 14x20x9 ish - main seat at 9.something feet. Room is fully enclosed and sealed.

Excellent! What are you powering your Phil 2's with?
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Guys

Looking for some inputs here and i am pretty new to the whole audio world. I am looking at buying Philharmonic-1. Since the center channel that Dennis makes is out of my price range, is there a cheaper center channel on the market i can buy ? Also any inputs for $500 ish dollar range receivers good for these speakers would be appreciated !!

I am not sure what to look for ...

Unless your seating Area is really wide, you dont need really need a center channel... buy the phil 2's and skip the center (phantom center option on most AVR)... maybe you dont even need it (personnally i had the same choice to do... decided to skip center and buy phils 2, since like 99% of the movie watched will be only me and my Gf on the sofa in front of TV .

At that position left and right will blend perfectly. Hard to see difference ( i even tried with current setup)

but if your room is big and there's a seating area in form of a *C*, well the people at the edge of the C might hear the sound from mainly only 1 speaker), ruining the experience.

So overall, If you mostly seat in the sweet spot, you dont need one
If it's for family and not every1 can be in that spot, get one.

P.S This is the limit of my english sorry... hope you understand what i try to say =)
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Ive run my phil 2s into the 100dbs with no issue at 10 feet (had my meter running on my surrounds earlier)

sub crossed over for movies at 80

my room is 14x20x9 ish - main seat at 9.something feet. Room is fully enclosed and sealed.

Do you have any measurement equipment? If the Phil 2's can play flat to 105db at 10 feet away, that pretty much seals it for me.


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I'll be sitting around 5 feet from mine.

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Unless your seating Area is really wide, you dont need really need a center channel... buy the phil 2's and skip the center (phantom center option on most AVR)... maybe you dont even need it (personnally i had the same choice to do... decided to skip center and buy phils 2, since like 99% of the movie watched will be only me and my Gf on the sofa in front of TV .

At that position left and right will blend perfectly. Hard to see difference ( i even tried with current setup)

but if your room is big and there's a seating area in form of a *C*, well the people at the edge of the C might hear the sound from mainly only 1 speaker), ruining the experience.

So overall, If you mostly seat in the sweet spot, you dont need one
If it's for family and not every1 can be in that spot, get one.

P.S This is the limit of my english sorry... hope you understand what i try to say =)

I agree with Anarkea. The Philharmonics have incredible dispersion. Even the people to the side of the room will still have a usefull image in most cases. Try it that way before you order a center channel. The only advantage that I can see is that, without ambiance, the clarity of the center would make it easier to hear the conversation. The ribbon midrange is so clear though, that it would compensate some versus a cone driver in the center channel.

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