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Old 09-10-2011, 03:01 PM - Thread Starter
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I currently have some old (about 12 years) Yamaha 5.1 setup. I've started upgrading my system and I need to focus on the main speakers now. I was going with some floor standing speakers but due to butting heads with the wife I'm going to have to stick with satellites.

Anyway, I've already started upgrading the system. I have an Onkyo TX-NR509 and a BIC F12. I'm looking for a 5.0 satellite setup in the $200-400 range. Obviously not looking for the best, just the best bang for the buck. Please see the above link to my Yamaha speakers and suggest something that will make a nice upgrade.

I went to Best Buy this morning and the Klipsch Quintet setup caught my eye. Would this be a worthy upgrade?

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Vanns has a promotion for Energy speakers. Enter code "energy" on the promotion page and then the CB-10s are $150 a pair and the CC5 center is $100. $400 gets you a nice setup, and my guess is that this is a better system than the Quintet. I'm trying to decide personally between a pair of CB-10s or CB-20s ($200) for a 2.1 system I'm setting up.

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Not knowing how that yamaha system sounds I wouldn't be able to give a good comparison from the klipsch, but for satellites the klipsch do sound good. You should try to go for some bookshelf speakers if the boss let's you. I'm assuming she's the boss since SHE has some nice "little" speakers.

Try talking her into letting you have a room to do with what you want. She can have the rest of the house.

Also, cruise craigslist for some used speakers. You may be surprised what you find.
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I had looked at bookshelf speakers but our tv is on the mantle over the fireplace and they would have to be mounted fairly high, about 7 feet up or so then angled towards the couch. Most bookshelf speakers I've seen don't have a real easy way to mount except for straight away.

The Yamaha's are decent and I'd probably be ok with keeping them, but given that they are 12 years old and the wife isn't opposed to me getting a new set I wouldn't mind an upgrade if it's worthwhile.

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Im also setting up a Bang for your buck system,

Yamaha RX-V567 $180 @ BestBuy

Newegg has a badass sale on Polk Audio Monitor series

I got:

Monitor40 Front
Monitor30 Rear
CS2 Series II Center
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I went to Best Buy this morning and the Klipsch Quintet setup caught my eye. Would this be a worthy upgrade?
I prefer the Primus pack, over the Quintets
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_108PT5P...nfinity+primus

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I had looked at bookshelf speakers but our tv is on the mantle over the fireplace and they would have to be mounted fairly high, about 7 feet up or so then angled towards the couch. Most bookshelf speakers I've seen don't have a real easy way to mount except for straight away.
If there is room for the center channel on the mantel, the HSU Ventriloquist could be an interesting choice. It's a six speaker satellite system that works on 5 channel sound. It has extra connections on the center channel so that the center channel can output the 80-250hz range, the part you lose in most satellite systems.

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IMO, you already upgraded the weakest link, the sub.

The thing that people are thinking, but not saying, is that small speakers just can't produce the range and qualilty of sound a somewhat larger speaker can. So moving to the Klipsch Quintet might be something of an upgrade, but they are still small enclosures with small drivers.

Keep in mind that it's the front 3 speakers that have the biggest effect. If you could see your way to upgrading the front 3 to some of the recommended speakers (like the Energy or the Primus), maybe that helps a little with the visual issues. It would be a big upgrade to the sound.

If that's not an option, and you're more or less OK with the speakers, you might spend the money on something else, like a networked media player. There are other things that will give more bang for the buck than switching from one small satellite system to another one.
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I prefer the Primus pack, over the Quintets
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_108PT5P...nfinity+primus

Speaker mounts
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...mounts&x=0&y=0

That's a decent looking deal. I would entertain something like that as long as the mounts would hold them up. I had been looking at the Monitor 30's as well, would these infinity's be better?

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If there is room for the center channel on the mantel, the HSU Ventriloquist could be an interesting choice. It's a six speaker satellite system that works on 5 channel sound. It has extra connections on the center channel so that the center channel can output the 80-250hz range, the part you lose in most satellite systems.

I do have room for a center channel but it must be hung underneath the mantel (my current center is hung). It would be about 2 feet above the fire place so my main concern would be will the heat harm any of these speakers in the winter?

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IMO, you already upgraded the weakest link, the sub.

The thing that people are thinking, but not saying, is that small speakers just can't produce the range and qualilty of sound a somewhat larger speaker can. So moving to the Klipsch Quintet might be something of an upgrade, but they are still small enclosures with small drivers.

Keep in mind that it's the front 3 speakers that have the biggest effect. If you could see your way to upgrading the front 3 to some of the recommended speakers (like the Energy or the Primus), maybe that helps a little with the visual issues. It would be a big upgrade to the sound.

If that's not an option, and you're more or less OK with the speakers, you might spend the money on something else, like a networked media player. There are other things that will give more bang for the buck than switching from one small satellite system to another one.

You are correct. I saw a huge difference when going to the new sub and receiver. Prior to that I was not real happy with the sound lately, but as it sits I can get by with it if I need to. I already have 4 HTPC's in the house so electronics wise I'm pretty set. It's not a necessity that I upgrade these speakers, but I'd like to get a little more sound quality out of my system as I've been watching a lot of movies lately.

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Any feedback on these? I'm assuming the Infinities would still probably be a better bet for me as they would sound a little more full due to the larger drivers.

Energy Take Classic 5 Pack: http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Take-Cl...739576&sr=8-14

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There are a lot of discussion threads here and around the web about the Energy Take speakers. They are very popular and well regarded at their size and price.

But it's the driver as well as the enclosure size (and build quality) that affects the sound.

I think it's been cheaper. It's on sale every couple months. The Martin Logan MLT-2 is the one that has also been on sale.
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That's a decent looking deal. I would entertain something like that as long as the mounts would hold them up. I had been looking at the Monitor 30's as well, would these infinity's be better?

I prefer the midrange and the treble, of the Infinity speakers.
A good mount will hold them up.

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I prefer the midrange and the treble, of the Infinity speakers.
A good mount will hold them up.

I'm leaning towards these but the issue is the center channel isn't wall mountable. It would have to somehow hang under my mantle. I'm assuming I would have to drill a place for a mount in the back of the speaker. Not really what I want to do. It would help if I could find pics of the rear of the speakers.

Edit: Found a mount that the center channel would sit on. It's a rock wall but I believe I could hang a small block of wood for the mounts to screw in to.

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No doubt in my mind that the Infinity P163 for $85 each is the best bang for the buck. I would get five identical P163s all around.

http://www.soundstagenetwork.com/mea...y_primus_p162/
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