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Hello;

I have completely revamped my home theater entertainment room for a 7.1 setup. The room is is at maximum 4x5 meters. I will be sitting approx 10 feet away from the tv. I will definitely upgrade my sound receiver, but do u think i should upgrade my speakers? I will definitely need two additional rear speakers (because I will upgrade from 5.1 to 7.1 or 7.2).

This is my current set up:

Reciever: Denon aur 1707 (I am purchasing 3312 very soon)

fs: csi3 polk audio
l&r s: monitor 60 polk audio
surround: rti4 polk audio
subwoofer: psw12 230v polk audio

What do you think, do u recommend i upgrade the speakers aswell for this room? I want the best of the best! Finance shouldn't be a problem. I can also buy two new sub-woofers if you think my sub-woofer is bad. I am so excited and can't wait to read your advice!

Please note that I will have to buy to more rear speakers anyway, so I have three options:

1) buy two additional rear speakers
2) replace surround AND buy new speakers (keep front as is)
3) replace ALL speakers front and back, and buy two more new for 7.1

(I don't mind replacing the subwoofer as well or buying another one! if you think i have to)
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Do you like your current speakers? You didn't mention whether you liked them or not. IF you don't like your speakers, what is wrong with them in your opinion.

and what is your budget. How much are you willing to spend?

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I think Polk are very good speakers for the money...but if you want the "best of the best", there clearly are better speakers out there! Not sure Polk is known for having a great subwoofer, but the PM60s are a nice tower speaker!

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as a start, I would concentrate on replacing the subwoofer - that will probably be your best "bang for the buck" improvement.
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Polks are great until you hear other speakers.

So if you are happy with the sound you have now, don't go out and audition other speakers. It could get expensive...
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I want the best of the best! Finance shouldn't be a problem. I can also buy two new sub-woofers if you think my sub-woofer is bad. I am so excited and can't wait to read your advice!

Ok, go ahead and do it - these would be some of the best.

Look at Focal Electra speakers
http://www.dedicatedaudio.com/inc/se...ectra&n=406249

Buy 2 of these subs - Rythmik
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F15HP.html

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If you want the best of the best then get a full set of Revel Ultima speakers and a four Seaton Submersive HP subwoofers. Of course that will cost you a mint but that's what the "best of the best" will demand from you.

If you don't have unlimited funds and like what you hear from your Polks I would look at replacing the front L&R with RTi series speakers which will match better with your surrounds and centre than the cheaper Monitor series you are currently running (not that the Monitor series is bad for the price). Depending on installation options, a pair of FXi A4 or A6 speakers might be the go for additional surround speakers. I second zieglj01's recommendation on subwoofers. One or two of those F15HPs will be a substantial upgrade for you.
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What would your budget for upgrading be?
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Thanks for your replies everyone!

1- I am happy with my current, but it is the only thing I heard. I heard bose but i disliked it. But still i would not know if there is an area for improvement.

2- I am not sure what to budget for this, I think I can easily spend up to 4000 dollars. If it is too little I can make arrangements. Money should not be an issue. It is not how much I can spend its how much I want to spend. I am buying the LG72LZ9700 for 9500$ so I am willing to pay for for better improvement. However please note my room size is 5x4 meters max.

3- I will most likely go for your recommended subwoofer (two of them).

For speakers I am still not sure...
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If you want to spend $4k, you can do a lot better than your Polks (coming from a Polk fan). Personally, I would get something from Goldenear (Triton Cinema), Aperion (Verus Grand) or B&W.
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Personally I would switch the Monitor 60's for Towers in the RTi-line from Polk and then spend the rest on your money on quality subwoofers.

If you like the Polk sound why change it for something that is suppose to sound better but your ears don't agree Make sure to take the time and test out the speakers before purchase or you have the ability to return within first 30days if you don't like
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Testing is a problem We cannot test here..

Is there like a reliable unbiased website that reviews different speakers, maybe rankings, awards, and scoring?

Edit: Is my current subwoofer bad?
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Your current sub is kind of a POS.

$4000 would get you big, big upgrades all around. Where in the world are you?
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Rob, just curious...what, in your opinion, make the Polk RTI line better than the Monitor series?

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
Set up #2: Def Tech SM450, CLR2002, SLS Qline surrounds and Klipsch 12wD sub
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Hello;

I have completely revamped my home theater entertainment room for a 7.1 setup. The room is is at maximum 4x5 meters. I will be sitting approx 10 feet away from the tv. I will definitely upgrade my sound receiver, but do u think i should upgrade my speakers? I will definitely need two additional rear speakers (because I will upgrade from 5.1 to 7.1 or 7.2).

This is my current set up:

Reciever: Denon aur 1707 (I am purchasing 3312 very soon)

fs: csi3 polk audio
l&r s: monitor 60 polk audio
surround: rti4 polk audio
subwoofer: psw12 230v polk audio

What do you think, do u recommend i upgrade the speakers aswell for this room? I want the best of the best! Finance shouldn't be a problem. I can also buy two new sub-woofers if you think my sub-woofer is bad. I am so excited and can't wait to read your advice!

Please note that I will have to buy to more rear speakers anyway, so I have three options:

1) buy two additional rear speakers
2) replace surround AND buy new speakers (keep front as is)
3) replace ALL speakers front and back, and buy two more new for 7.1

(I don't mind replacing the subwoofer as well or buying another one! if you think i have to)

Shoot me an email.
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Your current sub is kind of a POS.

Ok, so is POS a new sound technology trend or is it an acronym for peace of $^&%?

lol

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$4000 would get you big, big upgrades all around. Where in the world are you?

I am from Qatar. 50% past my honeymoon, currently in Malaysia > Langkawi > Abu Dhabi (near Dubai) > finally back to Qatar. I am in my honey moon and I cannot take my head off my bloody home theatre project lol! (I just received the 22 meter monster cable back home, monoprice cables as advised in this forum). By the time i'm back home I would have ordered and received my speakers (hopefully) and everything else.

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Testing is a problem We cannot test here..

Is there like a reliable unbiased website that reviews different speakers, maybe rankings, awards, and scoring?

Edit: Is my current subwoofer bad?

I had a PSW12 for alittle while before I sold it to another guy. While it was an improvement over the 8" subwoofer I have it was very boomy with its bass and wasn't too musical at louder volumes, I liked it for the action movies I watched. The person I bought the PSW12 from was replacing it with an HSU VTF-2 Mk3 and it was a night and day difference in this guys room when I did a comparison. It was able to reach lower and have much more bass output accross all frequencies. Had a very tight musical sound as well as enough output for the low bass explosions

Speaker reviews are very very subjective, what sounds good and highly rated to one person sounds horrible to another. At least with subwoofer's its slightly less subjective with the measurements that can be taken to show the performance of the subwoofers. I would blindly buy a subwoofer off an internet review but I wouldn't blindly buy speakers at your budget.
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Rob, just curious...what, in your opinion, make the Polk RTI line better than the Monitor series?

Better material's, components, and build quality. But mainly I was suggesting upgrading to RTi's towers for a seamless front sound stage
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and if i upgrade the twin towers, do i keep the center speaker the same?
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Rob, just curious...what, in your opinion, make the Polk RTI line better than the Monitor series?

Clarity. The Monitor has good overall response, etc, but its main weakness is clarity. Sound can be a little muddy.
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and if i upgrade the twin towers, do i keep the center speaker the same?

Yes - your centre and surrounds are a match for the RTis
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Would any of you own F15 Direct Servo subwoofer ?

is its voltage only 110-120? Or is it 110-240v?

I perfer buying it from Singapore, if not then Dubai, if not then the UK.
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The F15 is a truly fantastic sub. It does 230V:

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/images/A370PEQ.jpg
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Thanks everyone.

I have arranged for the speakers (upgrading twin towers and buying two pairs of fxi).

I am having trouble finding a store that sells this subwoofer so far in asia. I am travelling to singapore and dubai, if I don't find it there I would be forced to make an online purchase. We'll see how it goes. Thank you everyone for all your help and input, when I am done I will post the results ^_^.
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Take a look at salk speakers (salksound.com)

They will take a little longer to get, but they are custom made to you with your choice of wood veneer.
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Rythmik are an online only subwoofer brand. The online brands generally get you alot more bang for your buck than the Bricks & Mortar retailers. I have a DS1501 kit which is just an F15 with a home-made box (same driver and amp). I live in New Zealand and we are 230volt. Ordered the kit direct from the US.
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Out of interest - Which RTi towers did you go for? The A9s are awesome but pretty imposing.
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I am going for the rti a7 and 2 pairs fxi a4 for surrounds. Because my room is only approx 4x5 meters, I was told any thing more than a7 would be a waste because its too big and powerful!

I am still trying to find alternatives to purchase the subwoofer pair because so far for this is the cost:

Subtotal 2,098.00
Shipping 2,160.00
Tax 0.00
TOTAL 4,258.00

I am at the airport at the moment traveling to singapore, I hope I would find the subs there, u think I will?
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Subtotal 2,098.00
Shipping 2,160.00
Tax 0.00
TOTAL 4,258.00

Do you really want to spend that much shipping, for speakers that
are not a major upgrade, from what you have?

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Do you really want to spend that much shipping, for speakers that
are not a major upgrade, from what you have?

This is the price of shipping the subwoofers that you recommended!

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Buy 2 of these subs - Rythmik
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F15HP.html

This is the price posted on there website, that is why I am trying to get it elsewhere.. and as to the replies, i did believe the these subs are a major upgrades to my current subs!

The polk audio speakers (forunetly) are available locally, although still more expensive than the US. The rti a7 is 3000QR (1$ = 3.65QR).
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You aren't gonna just "find the subs" anywhere - Didn't I already say they were online only?

A pair of Rythmiks F15s would be a massive upgrade. I reduced the cost of shipping and the cost of the sub when I got mine, by building my own box. If you can't do that, you could have someone build you a couple of boxes for you locally.
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