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post #1 of 11 Old 12-04-2011, 08:46 PM - Thread Starter
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So many of my Blu-Rays and others I've unscientifically polled at B&M stores indicate 5.1 and the rare 7.1 audio tracks. I'm diving into a 9.1 dedicated theater room setup, but I'd like to hear if your 7.1, 9.1, or even an 11.1 setup, was worth it now that you actually have it.

EDIT: FYI, our room is about 3600 cu. ft. (13 ft wide x 28 ft long x 10 ft ceiling)

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Small rooms (under 2500 cuft), no. Larger rooms with speakers positioned further from the listening position, it will be an improvement over 5.1. But not by a huge measure until you get to very large rooms.
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Small rooms (under 2500 cuft), no. Larger rooms with speakers positioned further from the listening position, it will be an improvement over 5.1. But not by a huge measure until you get to very large rooms.

Placement is def important...I should have mentioned it: the room is about 3600 cu. ft.

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Your room is just a tad smaller than mine and liked 7.1 using front height speakers better than back speakers. The front heights added a more surrounding sound field, especially with the use of Yamaha DSP modes.
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Yamaha CinemaDSP 7ch over 5.1; yes it was worth it.
DTS-ES or DD/THX-EX 6.1 over 5.1; no it was not worth it.

Have not tried 7.1 TrueHD/dts-HD (I'm only aware of Toy Story 3 and Tron:Legacy as 7.1 titles); I've returned to 5.1 and am quite happy. My room is not incredibly large (and has not changed between those three iterations). I would preference something like Audyssey DSX or Dolby Pro Logic IIz over TrueHD 7.1 based on my experience. I've seen on the newer receivers (RX-A) there has been a dramatic narrowing of available soundfield programs and features (compared to DSP-A and DSP/RX-Z).
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What about 6.1 thats what Im running haha. I thought it was a improvement in the films I watched. Some scenes definitely felt more immersive

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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I have the standard 7.2 setup with rear surrounds. I will never go back to 5.1 huge difference in going to 7.2. BTW I use PLIIx Movie coupled with THX Cinema on my Onkyo 808 and the sound is so realistic I get ppl turning their heads to see where the noise is coming from because they think its coming from a different room. My room is 11' W X 23' L X 7.5' H.

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7.1 is better than 5.1, but not by a huge amount. I think once you get past 5, the return on investment per speaker dwindles rapidly.
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I have a 7.1 setup. When I had an inexpensive speaker set up under $5 for 7 the sound was ok. When I upgraded my speakers to Dali Helicon's and broke the $10k barrior, it was a nice upgrade over 5.1.
I actually thought once I moved to a significant center, the C-200 MKII, that was that best improvement out of it all.

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I prefer the 7.1 with 2 surround backs over the 2 presence/height speakers because my center JBL EC35 is an excellent center. I love the sounds of bullets and jets/helicopers flying over my head.
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I'd like to hear if your 7.1, 9.1, or even an 11.1 setup, was worth it now that you actually have it.

Was worth it for me. Went to a 7.1-speaker set-up in the early 1990s, a few years before discrete 5.1 material came out on laserdisc. The number of channels in the source material has no bearing on whether to go with a 7.1 or 9.1 or 11.1 layout. Likewise, room size has little to do with it. My first 7.1 set-up was in a relatively small 11x13.5 spare bedroom. My futon was 8 feet from the front wall, which left a full 5 feet behind me for good separation between my side and rear speakers.

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