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Hey guys,

Me and my husband are setting up a home theater room, and currently considering the audio side of things. Our budget is around $1000-$1500, which should encompass the receiver and all speakers, in a 7.1 (or 7.2) setup. We also want this room to work as a general audio streaming / music playing room, where audio files can be streamed through a home network (ideally without requiring the use of itunes, since despite owning an iphone, I'm not very big on the apple way of organizing music).

The room is quite, large 20x24, and our setup will involve a projector and a 150 inch CIH screen.

When it comes to the receiver, I've been considering something like the Pioneer VSX-1021k, the Denon 1912 or the Onkyo TX-NR609. On the other hand, I wonder if something cheaper like the Sony STR-DH710 would do the job just fine, and if the higher priced models would be overkill for what we need.

With respect to the speakers and the subwoofer(s), we're both pretty lost in terms of what the best choices are for this price range. When it comes to the front speakers, I'm also concerned that the spread between the left and right will be too large on such a wide screen, and so I've been considering if it's a better idea to go with three center type wall speakers that go under the screen for that part of the room.

Any ideas and thoughts are welcome!

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Does the $1500 include the receiver?

Are you sure you have room to setup 7.1 properly. The rear surrounds are supposed to go above and behind the main listening area. So if your couch is against the wall it is better to do 5.1 instead.

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Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, we're using the room only for this purpose, so we have a 20 x 24 square area. The couch will be placed closer to the middle of the room. The only potential problem is that the wall behind the couch is a half wall and not a normal one, which makes me think that tall floorstanding speakers would be better there. Ideally the budget would include the receiver, but if the budget is really too low for a good quality setup, I could consider paying a bit more than I quoted.
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You could get 4 of these Polk Monitor 60 towers and the matching center for just over $600. Then you'd still have money for a decent subwoofer (or two budget subs) and a receiver.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290206
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882290212

2 Bic F12 subwoofers @ $188 each
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F1...5187609&sr=1-6

Then add your receiver of choice with the rest.

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I would step the quality of the speakers up by ditching the 7.1 and going to a 5.1. You can add to it later when you have more funds. I would also consider looking at the Yamaha line of avr's as opposed to onkyo's.
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Thanks all for your tips. Could you elaborate on your preference of Yamaha receivers over Onkyo (though I know this question may belong in another section of the forum).
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Agree on with the post on keeping it at 5.1 for now. Your budget isn't very high for that size room. What is the ceiling height?

Is this strictly or mainly for HT? If so, some high efficiency speakers like Chase SHOs or PRO-10s across the front. At $345 each plus shipping, plus sub, plus AVR, plus surrounds will put you way over budget though.
http://www.chasehometheater.com/inde...id=53&TreeId=1

The Infinity speakers are pretty efficient and get really good user reviews.

Something like the 362/363 for LR and 350/351 for the center and 152 monitors for the surrounds. On sale they'd be $600 across the front and $150 for the pair of surrounds.

$400 or so for a good AVR with decent power and $500 (or more for the sub)

Or you could save some money by running the Infinity 163 monitors for the LR and spend more on a bigger sub. The sub is where you should put the greatest percentage of your money for HT usage.

People on these forums tend towards Yamaha because there are more reports (on these forums) of problems with Onkyo.

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Thanks again for the help. We may keep it 5.1 for now and perhaps also stretch the budget a bit. Is there any quality issue with having some speakers higher quality and some lower / different brands? I was wondering if it caused problems with sound balance, calibration etc. If not, which speakers are best to spend the biggest money on (other than the subwoofer)? Center?

The ceiling height is 8 feet. This is room is meant to be around 70 % for movies and 30 % for music.

If i go bigger on the sub, which would you recommend (with a limit of around $600-$700)?

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It's important for the front sound stage for the L/R and center to be tonally matched. The best setup is three exactly the same, but most setups don't allow for putting a vertical speaker as a center. As a compromise, speaker manufacturers offer matching centers on the same speaker line that are close. However, it's much less important for the surrounds to be matching.

As for subs, the Rythmik FV12, Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus, HSU VTF-2 MK4, and Epik Legend are all popularly recommended on the AVS subwoofer forum (you can read around there) in your price range. These Internet direct retailers offer much better values than what can typically be bought in stores from more well known speaker manufacturers.

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Polk RTi series is a step above polk monitor/TSi (you hear at best buy) - The RTi A series is just a cosmetic upgrade of the RTi series and that is why polk sell them for sooo much cheaper which they admit

Polk RTi8 pair - $400

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-RTi8-BL...item5ae079c4cb

Polk RTi4 pair (bookshelf) - $150

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-RTi4-BL...item53e7dd905b

Polk CSi5 (center) - $200

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CSi5-BLACK-C...item5ae0fa7e10

Onkyo 609 - $340 used ($390 new)

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR609...5201532&sr=8-1

Subwoofer - some factory direct subwoofer...
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Polk RTi series is a step above polk monitor/TSi (you hear at best buy) - The RTi A series is just a cosmetic upgrade of the RTi series and that is why polk sell them for sooo much cheaper which they admit

Polk RTi8 pair - $400

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-RTi8-BL...item5ae079c4cb

Polk RTi4 pair (bookshelf) - $150

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-RTi4-BL...item53e7dd905b

Polk CSi5 (center) - $200

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CSi5-BLACK-C...item5ae0fa7e10

Onkyo 609 - $340 used ($390 new)

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR609...5201532&sr=8-1

Subwoofer - some factory direct subwoofer...

I'm following this! I think I am going to jump on that NR609!
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I'm following this! I think I am going to jump on that NR609!

check www.accessories4less.com - if you're willing to buy used, why not buy a factory authorized refurb with warranty for less money?
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For subs don't forget SVS PC or PB12-NSD both less than $800 but include shipping.

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check www.accessories4less.com - if you're willing to buy used, why not buy a factory authorized refurb with warranty for less money?

I got it new for a nice price! Just ordered a few minutes ago!
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Thanks all for your tips. Could you elaborate on your preference of Yamaha receivers over Onkyo (though I know this question may belong in another section of the forum).

The new Yamaha Aventage series would be much better than an Onkyo, imo.
Also, as mentioned, only do 5 channel right now. 5 better quality speakers will always be better than 7 cheaper speakers.

As for using 3 center speakers across the front, most certainly you can.
In fact there have been a couple of members here who used JBL LC2 centers for all channels. And right now Amazon has some really good prices on the entire Studio L series. And you will not find a better center speaker, not at those prices.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...BL+LC2&x=0&y=0
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Hey guys,

Me and my husband are setting up a home theater room, and currently considering the audio side of things. Our budget is around $1000-$1500, which should encompass the receiver and all speakers, in a 7.1 (or 7.2) setup. We also want this room to work as a general audio streaming / music playing room, where audio files can be streamed through a home network (ideally without requiring the use of itunes, since despite owning an iphone, I'm not very big on the apple way of organizing music).

The room is quite, large 20x24, and our setup will involve a projector and a 150 inch CIH screen.

When it comes to the receiver, I've been considering something like the Pioneer VSX-1021k, the Denon 1912 or the Onkyo TX-NR609. On the other hand, I wonder if something cheaper like the Sony STR-DH710 would do the job just fine, and if the higher priced models would be overkill for what we need.

With respect to the speakers and the subwoofer(s), we're both pretty lost in terms of what the best choices are for this price range. When it comes to the front speakers, I'm also concerned that the spread between the left and right will be too large on such a wide screen, and so I've been considering if it's a better idea to go with three center type wall speakers that go under the screen for that part of the room.

Any ideas and thoughts are welcome!

Marie.

If you are willing to up your budget, then the P362/PC350 with P152 for rears and a HSU sub VTF-3 MK4 along with the 1021 receiver would fill your room for about $1700. Using two BIC F-12 would put you within your $1500 budget if need be.
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