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post #1 of 15 Old 01-10-2012, 03:21 PM - Thread Starter
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Hi all! I know nothing about this stuff, but I come here looking for advice every once in a while and everyone is always great.

I know its hard to recommend cheap speaker, but I really, really don't need high quality speakers for what I'm doing.

I'm helping someone with a bar and he needs to buy 2, maybe 4 speakers to replace the garbage ones that were installed a few years ago. He doesn't want to spend a lot because it's a young college age crowd and a young, college age staff and they can't be trusted to respect things. And all they're going to do is blast obnoxious music and they wouldn't notice quality speakers anyway.

He'll spend a couple hundred on speakers, but I have no idea what to tell him other than no Bose. It's a 250 watt receiver and I believe he's fine with his current subwoofer. Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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I assume that floor-standing speakers are out of the question, since every bar always has them mounted way up high where the sound doesn't get absorbed by the bodies and the furniture (and the drunks can't punch holes in the cones...lol).

I suggest the BIC America DV-62si which should handle the sound pressure levels as well as anything in that price range; Amazon prices them at $110 per pair.

IF a speaker that is 33 inches tall could be accommodated, the Sony SSF-5000 is only $100 per pair on Amazon and might even be better; they could possibly sit or be mounted with the top about seven feet high and work OK, as long as they were in a protected location where drunks can't reach them.




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Hi all! I know nothing about this stuff, but I come here looking for advice every once in a while and everyone is always great.

He'll spend a couple hundred on speakers, but I have no idea what to tell him other than no Bose. It's a 250 watt receiver and I believe he's fine with his current subwoofer. Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

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For place like bar, I would get pro audio speakers used by DJ or alike. Visit place like Guitar Center and see what may fit your requirement.
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For place like bar, I would get pro audio speakers used by DJ or alike. Visit place like Guitar Center and see what may fit your requirement.

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How much are you looking to spend tops?

Does this bar have a dance floor? Or are you looking for just background music

What is the model name of your amp?
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You might want to check monitors like Behringer Truth, KRK Rokit etc. They come with amps in active versions, and without in passive. They're small and seem durable.
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No, it's not a club, just need the speakers for background music. But the kids do crank it up later. But by then they're pretty hammered, so it's still just background noise.

Without doing any kind of research though, i'm going to go out on a limb and say that anything with 'pro' or 'dj' in the name would be overkill though.

And yes, they definitely have to be mounted high on the wall or they'd probably walk out the door. And sorry, but I have no clue what brand receiver he has.

What about those $200 pioneers in the other 'genius' thread?
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you didn't say how big the bar was...or what is being used to power these speakers. But you would either need active speakers or an pretty powerful Amp...

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
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A professional PA speaker is absolutely the best choice for the application. They are designed for that type of abuse. You can also get some pretty innexpensive ones as well. Just check out Behringer's offerings. But, if you have never used anything like that... it's probably out of your comfort zone.

Definitely NOT the pioneer bookshelves you speak of. Not efficient enough for that application. For a regular "consumer" product...I like the idea of the BIC's.... but that is the wrong model mentioned above. I would suggest something much more efficient like these.
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=303-434
power handling capacity and sensitivity = lots of output.

or you could use two of these for L+R
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=303-438

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Yup. I like allan's BIC idea too. The Pioneers would be too quiet for a bar setting.
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Without doing any kind of research though, i'm going to go out on a limb and say that anything with 'pro' or 'dj' in the name would be overkill though.

Look here: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pa-ca...catId=site1YAA
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No, it's not a club, just need the speakers for background music. But the kids do crank it up later. But by then they're pretty hammered, so it's still just background noise.

If I read your post right it sounds like the kids that work there might crank them up after the customers are gone. If that's the case then maybe some cheap, nice sounding but not very efficient speakers might be just what you need. If that's the case than the Pioneers might work well, especially with their poke proof metal front grills. If you can find them the FS-41 bookshelves would be easier to mount up high.

Just a thought.
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Yup. I like allan's BIC idea too. The Pioneers would be too quiet for a bar setting.

X3, I have seen BIC speakers in a few bars!
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Cheap speakers that stood up to alot of abuse in my fraternity house were Sony SS-B3000's
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Used cerwin Vega towers with 10" to 12" woofers. Mount them on a shelf laying down. Bolt the shelf to some studs and screw the speaker to the shelf. It's not going anywhere.

YID DIY
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Used cerwin Vega towers with 10" to 12" woofers. Mount them on a shelf laying down. Bolt the shelf to some studs and screw the speaker to the shelf. It's not going anywhere.

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Yea, the more I think about it the used market is really the way to go. Cerwin or any quality name with a minimum 10" woofer will produce better results and fill a large space better than any small bookshelf.
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