Originally Posted by Jay1
Problem with cheap speakers like that is they lack the refinement people around here expect.
Cheap speakers? Might want to check what CV is charging for them, especially the CLS and XLS models. Not to mention what they weigh.
And refinement is a subjective issue - there are some brands here that are constantly touted but drive me up the wall because of their overabundance of "accuracy".
Chances are the woofer and mid are both run full range with no crossover, and the tweeter only has a cap and lpad on it.
IMO those chances are VERY low because: 1) I've never personally seen a CV without a 12dB/octave crossover i.e. resistors/capacitors/inductors but especially 2) you cannot build a speaker that can withstand that much power and produce those higher sound levels like most CVs (vs. similarly sized speakers) without
using full crossovers.
As I've mentioned before here, I have a very strong feeling the only time most people get to hear Cerwins is:
* at a party with people standing in front of them
* the speakers are stuck in the corners - BAD location for any speaker - to make room for the people at said party
* the receiver's bass and treble is maxed out (drunk people tend to do this a lot!), making for an overabundance of those frequencies i.e. boominess and tizziness
* receiver is being operated near it limits i.e. clipping is occurring, a particularly nasty sounding type of distortion
I'll admit CV's advertising doesn't instill much confidence but since I used to sell them (their lower priced stuff), I've been able to hear them properly set up and personally I don't think they are the awful p.o.s. speakers so many audiophiles make them out to be.
Speaking of audiophiles, those that only have heard them improperly set up may want to read these two full reviews conducted in the last few years of the better series of Cerwins......by audiophile
publications:Cerwin-Vega CLS-215 Loudspeakers
by Soundstage.comCLS-215 test
by A/V Guide (the HT arm of The Absolute Sound
magazine, probably one of the pickiest publications around when it comes to sound)
BTW there are smaller versions of the above, with dual eights and single 12" and 15" woofers, now called the XLS series.