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I'm in the market for a good system, I don't have any components so this will start from the ground up. I want to pair it with our future Samsung PN51D6500 Plasma TV. We live in an apartment and here is the layout:



also we would like to get a pair of wireless rear speakers if we end up getting a 5.1 system because I don't want to run wires accross the living room.

Oh this is what all would be connected to the receiver: tv, cable box, mac mini w/ toslink, and xbox 360
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At your budget, best to start with a receiver and one pair of speakers. Then build out from there are you can afford to.

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Hmmm. Fill us in on usage. And what you have already. But, it sounds like you have reciever and the fact you want 5.1 tells me a lot of movie/TV use. So that being said, I would go to Newegg and check out the Polk stuff. Your room is not that big so you could go with bookshelf models (Monitor 30 or 40) for the mains and a CS1 for the center. That would be about $180 give or take depending on sales. As for the sub, others might chime in but, I have seen the Polk PSW505 for under $200. This might make your neighbors upset however.

Sounds good!
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Hmmm. Fill us in on usage. And what you have already. But, it sounds like you have reciever and the fact you want 5.1 tells me a lot of movie/TV use. So that being said, I would go to Newegg and check out the Polk stuff. Your room is not that big so you could go with bookshelf models (Monitor 30 or 40) for the mains and a CS1 for the center. That would be about $180 give or take depending on sales. As for the sub, others might chime in but, I have seen the Polk PSW505 for under $200. This might make your neighbors upset however.

I don't have a receiver yet, need recommendations for everything really lol. Most of the time it will be used for movies and watching TV. Don't do much gaming really. My neighbors are loud upstairs, we can usually hear their tv or when they play music so I don't care if they get upset. But i do have the decency not to have the sub on full blast!
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OK,well, that reciever is going to double your budget! I myself have looked into those $200 deals but, I think you end up getting what you pay for. Now, if you can spend $3-400 on a reciever, you will do much better. Denon 1612s or Yamaha 571s.
Even a cheap system will run the better part of $1,000 by the time the dust settles.
Start with a 3.0 set up for now and as time/money allows, build upon it.

Sounds good!
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hmm, we don't really want to spend that kid of money. We something decent for 300-400 and I don't really plan on expanding it further than that budget. HTIB maybe? I don't evne know where to start with those.
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Some HTiBs are not bad. Check out the threads in AVS about them. Just don't expect miracles from them!

Sounds good!
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If that's your budget and you don't want to add on later, my preference would be for 2.1 over HTIB setups. One of the factory refurbished and warrantied Onkyo receivers from accessories4less.com. And this Pinnacle subwoofer paired with the Polk Monitor 30s.

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A basic system which will get the job done would be

-Polk RM6750 5.1 speaker set, $200
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-$200 receiver

I started off in the audio hobby with a total budget budget of $400 and I have to be honest it was really hard to find something that would work,

I was happy with my Sony STR-dh700 and RM6750's but i have since upgraded my speakers
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Rob, do you still use the Sony str-dh700 as your main receiver?

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Rob, do you still use the Sony str-dh700 as your main receiver?

Yeah the thing is still alive and kicking. Though I heard what I was missing when I was borrowing my buddies Denon avr-1611. So I am itching to replace my receiver with a Denon AVR-1912 or Pioneer VSX-1121 next x-mas if i can catch a sale
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Yeah the thing is still alive and kicking. Though I heard what I was missing when I was borrowing my buddies Denon avr-1611. So I am itching to replace my receiver with a Denon AVR-1912 or Pioneer VSX-1121 next x-mas if i can catch a sale

I just bought a refurbish Denon 791 - and I prefer it over the
regular Pioneer receivers. It has good power handling, and
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If that's your budget and you don't want to add on later, my preference would be for 2.1 over HTIB setups. One of the factory refurbished and warrantied Onkyo receivers from accessories4less.com. And this Pinnacle subwoofer paired with the Polk Monitor 30s.

what about this

http://www.accessories4less.com/make.../iphone/1.html

although it doesn't have rear wireless speakers, even though its 7.1 can i turn it into 5.1?
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How long will you be in that apartment?

3+ years, the HTIB is fine. Less than that, consider something like the Onkyo TX-NR509 ($200-$220) receiver, and some speakers you can start with and then add-on to later (such as a pair of Polk MonitorII 30s/40s, and a CS1 or CS2 center). Later, you can move those to surround duty, get some towers for the fronts, and a sub. Check NewEgg.

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How long will you be in that apartment?

3+ years, the HTIB is fine. Less than that, consider something like the Onkyo TX-NR509 ($200-$220) receiver, and some speakers you can start with and then add-on to later (such as a pair of Polk MonitorII 30s/40s, and a CS1 or CS2 center). Later, you can move those to surround duty, get some towers for the fronts, and a sub. Check NewEgg.

we'll be here for I would say max 2 years, I was looking around and I saw this
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_022RXV3...l?tp=179&avf=N

Is the TX-NR509 better?
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Check out the JBL Studio 180 discussion here. at $499 it seems to be a steal.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1388834
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we'll be here for I would say max 2 years, I was looking around and I saw this
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_022RXV3...l?tp=179&avf=N

Is the TX-NR509 better?

They're comparable, but the Onkyo has networking (and can connect to Internet streaming services, such as Pandora). Look for reviews on both, then do a side-by-side feature comparison, and go with the one that hits more of your requirements.

My main point is I think you'll be happier in the long run with a modest, upgradable system, rather than a HTIB system you'll want to completely replace in a couple years. Then again, if you'll have a way/place to repurpose the HTIB later (office/den/bedroom), you could use that now and start a new larger system after you move...

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phas3 your killing us here.with that kind of budget i agree that a 2.1 system would sound better than any htib. again look for refurb or some newer used recievers.check out your local craigslist,ebay and audiogon.if its just for tv and the occasional games you don't need all the bells & whistles.

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alright, lets go with a 2.1 system or a 2.0 system then, and use the TX-NR509 to build around. Now we need speakers, I would like some floor standing speakers or I guess I can always put it on a stand or something like that. But lets brain storm on possible combinations!
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What about the TX-NR509 paired with these

Onkyo SKS-HT870 7.1-channel Home Theater Speaker System Black

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...m-Black/1.html
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If you can push your budget a little, the Polk Monitor70s are $149 each at Newegg. If not, Newegg will likely put the Polk Monitor60s on sale soon (they seem to do so at least once a month). Subscribe to the Newegg mailing list.

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If you can push your budget a little, the Polk Monitor70s are $149 each at Newegg. If not, Newegg will likely put the Polk Monitor60s on sale soon (they seem to do so at least once a month). Subscribe to the Newegg mailing list.

x2 the Polk Monitor series ii are amazing speakers from newegg when they are at their sale price
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am i missing somethig here first you say you want to go 2.0 or2.1 then you ask again about crappy onkyo htib. i don't think you know what you want

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am i missing somethig here first you say you want to go 2.0 or2.1 then you ask again about crappy onkyo htib. i don't think you know what you want

well I just saw that those home theater speaker packages from the onkyo refurb were priced nicely but if going with the Polk Minotor IIs is a better route then I will probably go for those. I was just trying to stay below the budget and that package came with 5.1 speakers, I'm not very savy with home theater and that's where you guys come in.

So TX-NR509 + Polk Monitor 60s (add more later) is better than the TX-NR509 + Onkyo SKS-HT870 speaker package?
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I didn't realize it before, but the Polk Monitor50s are on sale through today at Newegg for $100 a piece. There are essentially the same as the Polk Monitor40s, with built in stands

The Monitor50s really beg for as sub, as opposed to the Monitor60s or Monitor70s which can go a good bit lower on their own (you could add the sub towards the last in your build out with them). And if you are definitely prepared to add a sub, this could be the way to go for an HT build to keep the cost down.

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if you can squeeze that little extra cash for the polk monitor 70 deal at newegg for $150 a piece shipped your on your way buddy.these should give you enough bass so you can save on a "good" sub next.

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awesome thanks everyone!

- Onkyo TX-NR509
- Polk Monitor II 60/70

Going to see if a refurb 509 ends up at accessories4less and snag it. So what should be next on my list, a sub right?

What kind? is 200 enough to get a decent sub?
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A basic system which will get the job done would be

-Polk RM6750 5.1 speaker set, $200
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-$200 receiver

I started off in the audio hobby with a total budget budget of $400 and I have to be honest it was really hard to find something that would work,

I was happy with my Sony STR-dh700 and RM6750's but i have since upgraded my speakers

I have a used RM6750 set with stands (NO SUB) for sale on Craigslist right now if you're interested...$75. Will ship if needed.

http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/ele/2807007673.html
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awesome thanks everyone!

- Onkyo TX-NR509
- Polk Monitor II 60/70

Going to see if a refurb 509 ends up at accessories4less and snag it. So what should be next on my list, a sub right?

What kind? is 200 enough to get a decent sub?

The 509 has been as little as $200 at newegg.

Right now it is $220 at newegg.

I am doubtful a4l will have a deal that is significantly better than that when you take into account shipping and a shorter warranty.
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imo the sub would come next but thats me . i dont think a $ 200 sub is going to cut it.if you purchaced the monitor 70 they can go down so they say around 30hz which is good for music but home theater you want to get closer to 20hz and to get that low your looking around $400-$500 for a good sub just think of it as a good investment and you wont be throwing your hard earned money away upgrading every year or so.with a good sub and these speakers you should be set for awhile. i'm not saying you have to get the sub next you could live with the monitor 70 and then get a center ch next then your rear channel then your sub its your choice. good luck

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